NDRU said:

lung cancer kills more ppl than ALL other cancers COMBINED.

Yes, it definitely kills.

Rhondab said:

Indeed it does. A friend of mine told me about his grandfather's death from lung disease, and it was horrifying. Towards the end, it took all the energy he could muster just to take one breath. Eventually, his body grew too tired to breathe, so he just stopped, and died.

Imagine having your family watch you die like that. It's just not worth it.
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the neverending debate.....

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

that's what i am afraid of

muse said:

could you still smell it in the house? on your clothes??



oh and aksel, it's not really a debate is it?
either you like it or you hate it
watching someone suffocate from lung cancer is very hard

Like Rhonda, I associate smoking with emotional pain, grief, and loss of loved ones.

People who start doing something to themselves at an age where they are fully aware of the risks bother me, plain and simple. They're not only hurting themselves.

Hey, if she puts out, who cares.

abierman said:

Thats HAWTA!

cutestgirlever said:

Im with the "choose to" smokers

I aint addicted, I only have like 1-2 a day, and I do it because I wanna. If people are put off by that, well, maybe it oughtta be a symbol of the deeper issues they would be put off by. I smoke cause it gets me through If they dont wanna help, fuck em.

susannah said:

ok. Good luck with that.

Rhondab said:

Thanks! Its going swimmingly thus far!

All of my friends smoke, but one.

Ocean said:

co-sign. It's a legacy behavior as far as I'm concerned, like public stoning.

NDRU said:

I've seen a tv-special once where shizophrenic patients were tested by letting them smoke .
Before a smoke-session they were in their vague unfollowable state of mind , but crystal clear and easy to communicate with after smoking .
The examination-team had a holographic illustration which showed that electric impulses were sended to the brains when a cigarette was taken .
They tried to find an alternative medicine that could replace the nicotine & tobacco ingredients .

Rhondab said:

ok , understood

100MPH said:

They say nicotine has some beneficial effects on short term memory, too. Still, it can't really make up for the inhalation of smoke--same with pot's positive effects.

susannah said:

If I am put off by smoking, it's a symbol of deeper issues I would be put off by? WTF? If people don't want to help, fuck them? I really don't understand what you mean by this part of your statement. The problem I have with smokers is the fact that they do it around other people with no regard for those people. I do not care if people smoke til their lungs fall out, but have enough respect for someone else's health to not subject them to that. Second hand smoke kills.

I like it when Im entering a business, a resturaunt, a store and there is someone standing there greeting me with a cloud of cigarette smoke streaming from their nostrils and mouth.


I

LOVE


IT!

SpisaRibb said:

Imago said:

I wish we could bring back that.

Hobbitch said:

I don't agree with second hand smoke either, having lived with it all my life (before I smoked obviously), but I was referring to the negative judgement of people, specifically women, who smoke themselves, as described in the thread title. Nothing whatsoever to do with smoke's consequences to others.

susannah said:

Oh thank you for the clarification.

It's their decision to be honest. And why just women? Why not men too? This thread's more retarded that steven hawking.

Spookymuffin said:

I like girls who smoke(but it doesn't look hot past 40), even as I despise the fact that I still smoke.

And he ain't retarded, Ben. He's fucking brilliant!

It's not the smoking itself, but I tend to like people that smoke. They're often weirder, and doing something that society says is wrong & evil means they often don't buy into conventions.

i'm an extremely moderate smoker - usually two packs a month, if i'm not going out and drinking at all - but even if i stopped smoking for good, i'd be turned off by dating someone who was all militant evangelical about non-smoking. i just hate that self-righteous attitude, about ANYTHING, and smoking has never bothered me to the extent that i'd get all confrontational with people about it. meanwhile, as for myself, i like to think i'm a very thoughtful smoker, maybe even to a fault. if i'm the only smoker in a group of non-smokers, i don't light up. simple as that. or i'll excuse myself and go somewhere that i know won't bother them if i absolutely MUST have a smokey treat. but these days, i usually leave my smokes in the house when i go out. they're not something i NEED at all times. they're just something i find comforting now and then.

now when i'm together with a big group of drinkin', smokin' heathens, it's a different story altogether.

Spookymuffin said:

Because I don't date men.

I'm a woman who smokes. I've lived with a guy who doesn't smoke for the last 4 years. He never complains and will join me for one every once in a blue moon. I've dated both non-smokers and smokers, before and after I started.. never really bothered me either way.

I find it interesting that if the word "smoking" were replaced with "drinking alcohol" in this topic, you wouldn't find as many negative responses. Yet, alcohol kills as well. And the effects of alcohol, i.e. drunk driving, kills many.