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True Evil. Girl A who's in a long-term relationship with a guy(and possibly marriage in her future) has sex with a girl at a party, at the urging of Girl B's boyfriend. Girl A is unbelievably wasted and past the point of being able to make an informed decision. Girl B hasn't had one drink and her boyfriend(who's acting as her pimp) isn't drunk, either. Girl B's boyfriend learns that Girl A was abused when she was young and seems to use this information against her to broker a deal.
Did Girl B and her boyfriend take advantage of Girl A or not? [Edited 8/20/06 6:09am] | |
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god yes | |
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purplerein said: god yes
Unfortunately, i totally agree with you. The guy was majorly creeping me out. | |
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that's some nastiness going on. nothing fun or warm or fuzzy going on there. ick. | |
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kidelrich said: purplerein said: god yes
Unfortunately, i totally agree with you. The guy was majorly creeping me out. there might be cause for legal action as well | |
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Yes. Fuckin a drunk girl is the last thing anyone should do. Ultimately we're supposed to be responsible for our own actions, but being under the influence of anything impares our judgement enough to the point I would say that I believe she was taken advantage of.
Why do your threads always have a Howard Deutch feel to them?  | |
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I think I offended the girl throwing the party because I told her what a douche this guy was being(before the sex had happened). She's a friend and this guy was her first, but she had to know how evil he was. I think the couple were both predators of varying degrees, although it was the guy who seemed to have no conscience. He's a massage therapist and was using that to hit on every fucking girl at the party, all with the pretense that he was helping them with their body issues. | |
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Imago said: Yes. Fuckin a drunk girl is the last thing anyone should do. Ultimately we're supposed to be responsible for our own actions, but being under the influence of anything impares our judgement enough to the point I would say that I believe she was taken advantage of.
Why do your threads always have a Howard Deutch feel to them? I have no clue who that is, but it majorly bummed me out. I don't mean to give the impression that Girl A didn't like girls or something, but she was way past where anyone(let alone sober people) should be having sex with her. | |
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was anything done to stop couple B? | |
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purplerein said: was anything done to stop couple B?
no. the girls disappeared into the bedroom around 2am. | |
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Ew.
I would get new friends. Well, dump the creepy ones anyway. | |
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JustErin said: Ew.
I would get new friends. Well, dump the creepy ones anyway. The guy was NOT a friend. I had never met him before. Didn't know Girl B, either. | |
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kidelrich said: Imago said: Yes. Fuckin a drunk girl is the last thing anyone should do. Ultimately we're supposed to be responsible for our own actions, but being under the influence of anything impares our judgement enough to the point I would say that I believe she was taken advantage of.
Why do your threads always have a Howard Deutch feel to them? I have no clue who that is, but it majorly bummed me out. I don't mean to give the impression that Girl A didn't like girls or something, but she was way past where anyone(let alone sober people) should be having sex with her. YOu do understand that you have an obligation to step in and challenge that, right? Being even passively aware of what is going on, makes you legally still an assessory to the crime--if it were indeed a crime. Always speak up. And get new friends. It sucks to do this, but over and over, I keep getting a sense that you hang with an unhealthy scene. Howard Deutch directed Pretty-In-Pink and some other 80's movies. I regret telling the joke, as you seem very shaken.  | |
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kidelrich said: JustErin said: Ew.
I would get new friends. Well, dump the creepy ones anyway. The guy was NOT a friend. I had never met him before. Didn't know Girl B, either. Ahhhh ok. Got it. | |
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Advantage Sober People. | |
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Imago said: kidelrich said: I have no clue who that is, but it majorly bummed me out. I don't mean to give the impression that Girl A didn't like girls or something, but she was way past where anyone(let alone sober people) should be having sex with her. YOu do understand that you have an obligation to step in and challenge that, right? Being even passively aware of what is going on, makes you legally still an assessory to the crime--if it were indeed a crime. Always speak up. And get new friends. It sucks to do this, but over and over, I keep getting a sense that you hang with an unhealthy scene. Howard Deutch directed Pretty-In-Pink and some other 80's movies. I regret telling the joke, as you seem very shaken. I actually mentioned something to the girl throwing the party(who at least was a friend) but I didn't know anything was gonna happen last night until it actually did, ok? They were talking about doing things in the future, which I can't exactly prevent.  I feel so guilty right now.[Edited 8/20/06 6:29am] | |
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Isn't there a double standard here? Why would it be ok with most people if the girls were both sober and had sex? It's still cheating. | |
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kidelrich said: Isn't there a double standard here? Why would it be ok with most people if the girls were both sober and had sex? It's still cheating.
It's all fucking wrong, mr. Baumeister and it stinks. | |
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Spookymuffin said: kidelrich said: Isn't there a double standard here? Why would it be ok with most people if the girls were both sober and had sex? It's still cheating.
It's all fucking wrong, mr. Baumeister and it stinks. I agree. But I can't tell you how many girls I know who would say it's not cheating if it's a girl. I don't get it. | |
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kidelrich said: Isn't there a double standard here? Why would it be ok with most people if the girls were both sober and had sex? It's still cheating.
You have a point. But that's two seperate issues. What we homed in on was the fact that one of the girls didn't seem to be reasonably impared in judgement. | |
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Imago said: kidelrich said: Isn't there a double standard here? Why would it be ok with most people if the girls were both sober and had sex? It's still cheating.
You have a point. But that's two seperate issues. What we homed in on was the fact that one of the girls didn't seem to be reasonably impared in judgement. Jesus, I thought I was talking to Abierman. I was also impaired, btw. | |
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kidelrich said: Imago said: You have a point. But that's two seperate issues. What we homed in on was the fact that one of the girls didn't seem to be reasonably impared in judgement. Jesus, I thought I was talking to Abierman. I was also impaired, btw. Just a bad situation all around. you can't go back and change things. I don't know if you're the type of person to find out who girl A was, in order to check on her see if she's alright today..? | |
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purplerein said: kidelrich said: Jesus, I thought I was talking to Abierman. I was also impaired, btw. Just a bad situation all around. you can't go back and change things. I don't know if you're the type of person to find out who girl A was, in order to check on her see if she's alright today..? I'm trying to do that right now, actually. But I don't have her number or myspace, although I have her blog written down somewhere. I know her name, though. She works at my old store and I've seen her maybe twice before, although last night was the first time we had ever really talked. [Edited 8/20/06 6:36am] | |
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kidelrich said: purplerein said: Just a bad situation all around. you can't go back and change things. I don't know if you're the type of person to find out who girl A was, in order to check on her see if she's alright today..? I'm trying to do that right now, actually. But I don't have her number or myspace, although I have her blog written down somewhere. I know her name, though. She works at my old store and I've seen her maybe twice before, although last night was the first time we had ever really talked. [Edited 8/20/06 6:36am] good move. you're a good guy. | |
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purplerein said: kidelrich said: I'm trying to do that right now, actually. But I don't have her number or myspace, although I have her blog written down somewhere. I know her name, though. She works at my old store and I've seen her maybe twice before, although last night was the first time we had ever really talked. [Edited 8/20/06 6:36am] good move. you're a good guy. actually, i think she was opening today which would be amazing if she actually went in. Maybe I'll stop by and see if she's there. | |
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I'm actually getting sick to my stomach now and it also shakes me that no one else had any qualms about any of this. I even had a friend tell me to not try anything with Girl A(who was hitting on me) because she was in a committed relationship. But she had no problem letting this unfold. This is some fucked up shit. | |
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kidelrich said: Girl A who's in a long-term relationship with a guy(and possibly marriage in her future) has sex with a girl at a party, at the urging of Girl B's boyfriend. Girl A is unbelievably wasted and past the point of being able to make an informed decision. Girl B hasn't had one drink and her boyfriend(who's acting as her pimp) isn't drunk, either. Girl B's boyfriend learns that Girl A was abused when she was young and seems to use this information against her to broker a deal.
Did Girl B and her boyfriend take advantage of Girl A or not? [Edited 8/20/06 6:09am] How old are these people? [Edited 8/20/06 6:40am] | |
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gemini13 said: kidelrich said: Girl A who's in a long-term relationship with a guy(and possibly marriage in her future) has sex with a girl at a party, at the urging of Girl B's boyfriend. Girl A is unbelievably wasted and past the point of being able to make an informed decision. Girl B hasn't had one drink and her boyfriend(who's acting as her pimp) isn't drunk, either. Girl B's boyfriend learns that Girl A was abused when she was young and seems to use this information against her to broker a deal.
Did Girl B and her boyfriend take advantage of Girl A or not? [Edited 8/20/06 6:09am] How old are these people? [Edited 8/20/06 6:40am] Girl A is, or just turned 30. Girl B is 20, I think. The sleazy guy was 35-40, I would guess. | |
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Alright, I'm gonna head out. Maybe she is at the store. | |
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Girl A needs to get a grip. At no time does anyone's past, no matter how horrible, make it okay for them to act irresponsibly as an adult. That is a fucking cop out. She wasn't unconscious. She didn't say no. She was an adult (I am assuming). She was not uh, retarded (I am assuming).
She made a bad drunken decision. period. She cheated on her fella. She should fess up to her man and ask his forgiveness. | |
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