I need some help.

I'm yet to get the stuff needed to finish the tom drum 3oh, but I've got the rest of the drums and thrown set up.

However it's the set up that's giving me a little trouble.

For some reason I believe I need be facing outward, toward the base drum.

My set up right now is causing some troubles, like the pedal stick for the base drum getting caught up in my 3/4 cut off shorts.

Is there a standard for setting up drum sets? or is it more prefrence based?

at the title.

Second!!!

I wish i had a drum set. I'd probably be saying the same thing

you're fuckin hilarious! with the drum pedal getting caught in your pants? HILARIOUS!!

Dewrede said:

dude!

:thumsbup:



mick..

or the other way around if you're left handed

Yes I've seen "drum setup" pictures.

However I've not gotten a confertable feel for the seating.

What I've observed is the snare drum is often strattled between the legs, but this doesn't make a confertable distance betten the highhat food and bass foot. The direction I face puts me a far off from the other end of the floor tom and ride or crash.

You can also change the way the floor tom is facing you
that goes for the rite and crash too ; change the hight and angle
[Edited 8/20/06 18:53pm]

Oh yeah, what about head tention? is that even the correct term? How does one "know" when the drum skins are "thight" enough without being too tight.

I just got the rest of the parts I needed, in the mail yesterday, and today I am putting the other components together. The tom drums are really making me wonder about serface tention. I'm sure I can't fuck it up, but I like to understand everything no matter how pointless it seems to others.

Is drum set a metaphor for your penis?

Do you need help masturbating? Getting it up? Ejaculating?

Spookymuffin said:

NO

Def Leppard has a drummer with one arm. who wears shorts. who's shorts don't get caught up in the pedal.

MickG said:

MickG said:

When you hit on it on the edge . it has to produce the same note on the whole
circumfrence of the drum which you can accomplish by twisting the screws
[Edited 8/22/06 15:55pm]

Dewrede said:

Oh Jesus, here comes the retarded questions!

Yes I realze the tention needs be the same around the drum. I've got that part. But it is the whole idea of a "note" that gets me. by note do you mean beat or are we actually talking about the note scale in the musical key. If that is the case should it be tuned to A 440?

I've heard a higher and lower "pitch?" to the drum skin, and that would seem to me to be pitch, so how do i know if I should tune the drum set into a key?

MickG said:

You do put the snare between your legs. Maybe you'll be facing the snare more than the toms this way, but you'll also probably be playing them a lot more than the toms, so it kind of makes sense.

Since you hit the snare with your left hand your right should be free to travel from high hat to toms and ride & crash cymbals at will.

You can set up your crash over the snare area, though, and the ride off to the right, between the kick & floor tom.

I don't know frankly

MickG said:

Drums have pitches, but it's not like they're in tune with the rest of the instruments. But you can hear that a big tom has a lower pitch than a small tom.

I'm sure there are guidelines--pitch relative to diameter--but I think that it's a preference thing. You don't need to tune to A or G or anything. Just what sounds good to you.
[Edited 8/22/06 16:05pm]

NDRU said:

Yes, I guess it is because I'm a bigger guy. With the snare between my legs I've no reach with my left hand to the floor tom. Because it is like behind me in some aspects.

Maybe I just need to loose some weight and the extra reaching around will do me some good. However I'm going to make myself a couple of sandwiches now.

indeed , i think so too
(replying to NDRU)
[Edited 8/22/06 16:06pm]

MickG said:

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Maybe if you scoot the stool out a bit. Your right arm should be able to reach the floor tom no problem.

If you look at the picture dewrede provided, you can see the floor tom is only a couple of inches to the right of your right leg, which is on the kick drum
[Edited 8/22/06 16:10pm]

But it takes a while. our drummer bought a new kit a few weeks ago, and though he's played for years & years he's still adjusting this new one to where it's comfortable.

NDRU said:

I agree.

Your specific setup is just going to involve some constant tweaking over time based on a few things.

a) The length of your arms and legs
b) The height of your drum throne
c) How you sit on the drum throne

You might get a better perspective on equipment locations...







...from some overhead/playing position views.

You can find a lot of valuable info on various drum manufacturers sites.
Especially how to tune the drums (extremely important).

As for the pants leg thing, you've got 1 of 3 options.
1) Wear pants with longer legs (lower than the drum beater).
2) Wear pants with shorter legs (higher than the drum beater).
3) Roll those bad boys up.


Good luck.


tA

Tribal Disorder

http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431

I moved the thron back and that took care of the pants.

I've angled, about 10 degrees the kick peddle acording to the base drum. That gives me a little more room to turn.

Okay now What about putting a pillow or something soft inside the base drum? I've seen bands do this and I assume it is to dampen the reverberation of higher pitched vibrations in the base drum. Is that a safe assumption?

MickG said:

how come i don't believe what you just said?

amateur said:

Paranoia Tendencies?

MickG said:

if thats what u like to think

MickG said:

Yep, so your kick drum goes thump and not booooonnnng. Should rest against the head.

I wonder why people are still using pillows? Why doesn't the kit come with something?