This is not a music discussion. Dude, I'm so tired of hearing about how wrong her men until her husband did her. I've had enough of her enough crying, no mrore drama. As a woman myself....at what point, do we start taking OWNERSHIP for what shit we go through? Sometimes it's not that serious. Men make soooo much money off of pressed women needing to find a husband. They almost prey on our pockets because we just have to know why that man acts like a dog.

When do we take ownership? When do we stop crying about assholes and stop dating them?

On an unrelated note... www.dontdatehimgirl.com has a lot of this mess. At a certain point ladies look real stupid.

Raising your children as a single mother isn't taking ownership? of course it is.

Women take ownership imo. It's these types of guys that need to take responsibility for their lives.

Men need to be more like rabbits and eat their young.

GaryTheNoTrashCougar said:

Moonwalkbjrain said:

I saw it on a documentary once

woa!

LleeLlee said:

I don't think you exactly got my point. Women payin men's bills, helping them out. you know you are wrong for that

KatSkrizzle said:

is someone forcing you to listen ... or is it your free choice to do so ?

we all have our ways of processing and intigrating lifes lessons

working in radio will do it to you

KatSkrizzle said:

understood

KatSkrizzle said:

Yeah considering that radio only plays like 5 songs over and over again every damn day!!

( I work in radio too. I hate all songs played on air right now)

Add to that the argument that there are not any good men. This is often repeated by women (I hear it all the time). Yet, several of my buddies at church are single, and they're good men.

I agree.
Women have suffered enough, either by men's hands or their own.

I vote that we end women's suffrage now!

Illustrator said:

Marys awesome and men suck.

GaryTheNoTrashCougar said:

your a girl?

sosgemini said:

It was the ODB avatar that got me too.

KatSkrizzle said:

I feel you on this. I get tired of her ass doing that shit too, everytime she got an album coming out she got to explain how much pain she went through which is why she wrote those depressing songs. It's funny she can tell how she was abused by those men she chose to be with and the bad things they did to her, how her daddy abandoned her, and yadda yadda yadda....

she never bothers to tell her part in it...that even those most of those guys she was involved with her abusing drugs and alcohol at the time, she was doing just the exact same thing. You can't tell me that when they laid a hand on her that she didn't fight back...thats the que to get the fuck out of the relationship (which i know isn't easy if you are involved in it) but maybe if she wasn't drunk or high, she could have made some better decisions.

but most of all, why does she keep talking about her past relationships anywayz? obviously the men she was with have moved on, and hopefully they have recognized their mistakes and have either gotten help or changed their behavior. She should just keep the conversations and interviews about her music and keep it moving. Nobody wants to hear about when she was with K-Ci, Case, and whoever.

Moonwalkbjrain said:

Ewww....I experienced that with my own two eyes. I had two rabbits a few years ago, and the mother rabbit was eating her own flesh and blood. I'm not sure if she was eating the ones that died during birth or eating them while they were alive :omg, but I had to get them out of the cage pronto. I felt bad for the male rabbit too, because she had gone kinda berserk and became irrational for a while. She had to be isolated, and I was scared to put them back in the cage with their mother. We tried manually feeding them warm milk. They died a couple days later We just weren't prepapred to deal with baby rabbits, it caught us offgaurd because the person who we bought the rabbits from mistook both rabbits to be female rabbits.

ThreadBare said:

You need to fix your buddies up with the single women who are complaining that there are no good men out there.

ThreadBare said:

sometimes i think that women don't really want a truly "good man". I think that some women get blinded by media or whatever telling them how they should be and what they should want in a man that they often forget or, in more extreme cases, never learn what a good man really is.

I know that I've had to catch myself a few times in how I select boyfriends, which is why I'm taking the focus off of that for a bit. Just having boys who are friends can be really helpful when it comes time to find a good man.


And as far as Mary J. Blige is concerned, I'm glad that she's clean and in a better place mentally but perhaps she hasn't fully gotten over what happened to her in the past. Lots of times, when someone hasn't fully gotten over something they keep bringing it up. Maybe it's time for her to make peace with the past a little more aggressively than she has been so that she can let go.


Sorry if this post is a tad incoherent. I'm a bit under the weather and it affects my typing.

psychodelicide said:

I don't think I want to do that to my buddies...

ThreadBare said:

How come? Sometimes blind dates can go great. I've even heard of people who were set up on a blind date who wound up getting married.

psychodelicide said:

As a survivor of friend-organized blind dates, I must OBJECT!!!

ThreadBare said: