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Thread started 08/13/06 8:24am

REDFEATHERS

AD/HD - ADD

Anyone know anyone with AD/HD, or ADD?

Maybe your kids have it, or you, or your partner, or a friend?

Does it really exist, is it an american fad?

What do you know of it?
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Reply #1 posted 08/13/06 8:25am

jerseykrs

Yeah, my son had it pretty severe until he was about 8-9. I know I prob have some form of it.....


Oooooo, look at the bright light on the TV!!


What was I talking about?


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Reply #2 posted 08/13/06 8:29am

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American fad lol You're probably right, likely "created" by a pharmaceutical company who now peddle so called "drugs" to combat ADHD. Americans will buy into anything lol
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Reply #3 posted 08/13/06 8:40am

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I'm a Special Ed. teacher. Some kids really do have one or the other. Others are victims of their parents' whimsies.
Let me explain: I've met parents who don't feel their kids are living up to their "perfect child" standards, so there "must be something wrong with them". They will spend $$$$$ going to doctors, therapists, specialists, whoever, trying to "fix" their children. They just can't face the reality that those kids just aren't "A" students, or whatever. wacky
I teach high school now, so we run across parents who actually try to get the diagnosis to get extended time on SATs for their kids, because they heard a neighbor's kid got it (legitimate learning disability)!! eyepop

ADD/ADHD do exist. Then there are those who abuse the system and give education and medicine a bad rep! sad

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Your lies, they cut me.
Now your words don't mean a thing.
I don't give a damn if you ever loved me..."

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Reply #4 posted 08/13/06 9:17am

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chocolate1 said:

I'm a Special Ed. teacher. Some kids really do have one or the other. Others are victims of their parents' whimsies.
Let me explain: I've met parents who don't feel their kids are living up to their "perfect child" standards, so there "must be something wrong with them". They will spend $$$$$ going to doctors, therapists, specialists, whoever, trying to "fix" their children. They just can't face the reality that those kids just aren't "A" students, or whatever. wacky
I teach high school now, so we run across parents who actually try to get the diagnosis to get extended time on SATs for their kids, because they heard a neighbor's kid got it (legitimate learning disability)!! eyepop

ADD/ADHD do exist. Then there are those who abuse the system and give education and medicine a bad rep! sad



So, very very true.

I've found that it is a real disease, but it's far from an epidemic they make it out to be. All to often it's used as an excuse.

Special ed teachers rock highfive
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Reply #5 posted 08/13/06 10:15am

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Sweeny79 said:
Special ed teachers rock highfive[/quote]

Thanx!!!
touched

"Love Hurts.
Your lies, they cut me.
Now your words don't mean a thing.
I don't give a damn if you ever loved me..."

-Cher, "Woman's World"
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Reply #6 posted 08/13/06 10:17am

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chocolate1 said:

Sweeny79 said:
Special ed teachers rock highfive


Thanx!!!
touched[/quote]


lol I'm one too. giggle hug
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Reply #7 posted 08/13/06 10:19am

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Reply #8 posted 08/13/06 10:23am

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Sweeny79 said:

chocolate1 said:

Sweeny79 said:
Special ed teachers rock highfive


Thanx!!!
touched



lol I'm one too. giggle hug[/quote]

I am also one. Yes they do!
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Reply #9 posted 08/13/06 10:24am

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I'm a teacher. Not special ed.

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Reply #10 posted 08/13/06 10:25am

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karmatornado said:

Sweeny79 said:




lol I'm one too. giggle hug


I am also one. Yes they do!



You are all teachers???? eek
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Reply #11 posted 08/13/06 10:26am

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REDFEATHERS said:

karmatornado said:



I am also one. Yes they do!



You are all teachers???? eek



Special Education teachers nod lol
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Reply #12 posted 08/13/06 10:28am

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Yes, and when I met Mr. Hayes at a show, he said, "Teachers didn't look like THAT when I was in school!"
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"Love Hurts.
Your lies, they cut me.
Now your words don't mean a thing.
I don't give a damn if you ever loved me..."

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Reply #13 posted 08/13/06 10:28am

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Sweeny79 said:

REDFEATHERS said:




You are all teachers???? eek



Special Education teachers nod lol


Three Cheers For IEP GOals! I also coach football and basketball
Carpenters bend wood, fletchers bend arrows, wise men fashion themselves.

Don't Talk About It, Be About It!
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Reply #14 posted 08/13/06 10:29am

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Sweeny79 said:

REDFEATHERS said:




You are all teachers???? eek



Special Education teachers nod lol



Oh wow.. clapping I didnt know
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Reply #15 posted 08/13/06 10:29am

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ATTENTION DEFICIT HYPERACTIVITY (ADHD)
(back to nutrition facts A to Z menu)



Many more boys than girls suffer from the health condition known as ADHD. It usually starts by the age of three, although often diagnosis of ADHD is not made until the child attends school. Adults can also be affected by ADHD, although it’s mainly children. Signs of ADHD can include any of the following (although the child will probably not show all of the signs mentioned):


Health Condition Characteristics
Short attention span and lack of concentration

Impatience and difficulty with waiting

Unable to sit still for long

Impulsiveness

Temper tantrums

Learning difficulties, in spite of being of average or above-average intelligence

Finds it difficult to finish tasks or solve problems

Speech and hearing disorders (suspect middle ear infection and allergy)

Frequent mood swings

Disturbing other children

Poor sleep

Forgetfulness

Easily distracted

Head-knocking and self-destructive behaviour

Easy to anger

Criminal behaviour



Most cases of ADHD appear to be linked to food additives, food sensitivities and sugar. Naturally occurring salicylates and phenolic compounds are a problem in perhaps half of all cases. Hair mineral analysis showing high levels of metals such as lead, mercury, cadmium, manganese and copper are also implicated in ADHD.



ADHD Diet advice and nutrition facts


Ideally seek the help of a nutrition consultant who has experience of ADHD.

Have a test for food sensitivities and a hair mineral analysis for heavy metal toxicity. A nutrition consultant will be able to arrange these tests.

An elimination diet, again with the help of an experienced nutrition consultant or nutritionally aware physician can be helpful in identifying allergens, but take care that the child is receiving adequate nutrition.

Meanwhile, remove all refined sugars from the diet, including refined carbohydrates like white flour and white rice, all artificial chemicals such as BHA and BHT, colourings, flavourings, emulsifiers, preservatives, thickeners, vegetable gums, anti-caking agents such as calcium silicate, bleaching agents, and so on.

Unfortunately, many hyperactive children are also sensitive to naturally occurring salicylates and phenolic compounds, which include quite a few fruits. (See below for details on salicylates.)



As you can see, quite a bit of detective work is necessary but the hard work is often worth it when the child becomes happier in himself and easier to be with.



Salicylates

Many foods naturally contain salicylates, which is similar to aspirin. Salicylate-like compounds are used to flavour foods such as cake mixes, puddings, ice cream, chewing gum and soft drinks. Therefore stay away from any refined foods to be on the safe side. Most fruit, especially berries, raisins and prunes and other dried fruits contain salicylates. Liquorice and peppermint sweets are also high in salicylates, and nuts and seeds contain some. Certain herbs are particularly high in salicylates, including curry powder, paprika, thyme, dill, oregano and turmeric.

Safe foods as far salicylates are concerned include vegetables, legumes, grains, meat, poultry, fish, eggs and dairy produce. However, there may be some other food intolerances amongst these for individuals.



Possible food intolerances in order of likelihood:


Red dye

yellow dye

blue dye

preservatives

cow’s milk

soya

chocolate

grape

orange

peanuts

wheat

corn

tomato

egg

cane sugar

apple

fish

oats



Other considerations


Children with ADHD are twice as likely to have middle ear infections as other children. Middle ear infections (otitis media) can lead to moderate or severe hearing loss, which in turn can lead to impaired speech and language development and learning difficulties. Look for food intolerance, especially wheat and dairy, and compromised immunity and sugar intake.


Also ensure the child is getting sufficient nutrients. Several investigators have shown that correcting even mild imbalances or deficiencies can have a substantial influence on learning and behaviour. Poor nutrition and heavy metal toxicity also often go hand in hand – consider a good quality multivitamin and mineral supplement.



Counselling involving the whole family can also be helpful.



Health Supplements - ADHD



Often, a combination of supplements may help in alleviating this condition. You may wish to consult a nutritional therapist for personal advice. Supplements that may be helpful in alleviating symptoms are shown below: (please also read this important notice concerning supplement medical claims)



Children’s Multivitamins and minerals (vegetable capsules) (BioCare, Code 157) Recommended by the Hyperactive Children’s Support Group (H.A.C.S.G.)

Recommended intake:

Age 2-4 years 1 capsule daily

Age 5-6 years 2 capsules daily

Age 7-9 years 3 capsules daily

Age 10 & over 4 capsules daily



Or, if you prefer powder:



Vitaforte Banana Multivitamins & Minerals – Child’s Formula.(BioCare, Code 103150).

Nutri Eskimo-3 for Kids

Vitaforte is a functional food made from whole, freeze-dried banana with no chemical additives or preservatives. It is also free from milk products and sugars. It should be alright unless the child is sensitive to bananas. Mix with food or water.



Recommended Health Books (back to top)

health book - Adventures in fast Forward
health book - Attention Deficit Disorder (ADHD)
health book - No More ADHD
health book - Out of The Fog
health book - The LCP Solution




see also Allergies and food intolerance

CHADD: Children and Adults with Attention-Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder

Kids Health - ADHD Resource

Source : http://www.health4youonli...s_adhd.htm
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Reply #16 posted 08/13/06 10:30am

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karmatornado said:

Sweeny79 said:




Special Education teachers nod lol


Three Cheers For IEP GOals! I also coach football and basketball



Nothing like livin' in ACRONYM HELL!!!
evillol

"Love Hurts.
Your lies, they cut me.
Now your words don't mean a thing.
I don't give a damn if you ever loved me..."

-Cher, "Woman's World"
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Reply #17 posted 08/13/06 10:32am

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chocolate1 said:

karmatornado said:



Three Cheers For IEP GOals! I also coach football and basketball



Nothing like livin' in ACRONYM HELL!!!
evillol



lol so true... falloff

I feel like an idiot sometimes talking about school to people outside of school, they are like WTF did you just say???
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Reply #18 posted 08/13/06 10:33am

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Sweeny79 said:

chocolate1 said:




Nothing like livin' in ACRONYM HELL!!!
evillol



lol so true... falloff

I feel like an idiot sometimes talking about school to people outside of school, they are like WTF did you just say???


Individualized Education Plan
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Reply #19 posted 08/13/06 10:34am

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More Acronym hell,

I have taught SDC, right now I specialize in LH, I must give My IEPS to PPS to certify my 504's. Decipher that
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Reply #20 posted 08/13/06 10:35am

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karmatornado said:

Sweeny79 said:




lol so true... falloff

I feel like an idiot sometimes talking about school to people outside of school, they are like WTF did you just say???


Individualized Education Plan



I know what an iep is you silly! I meant when I talk to other people they are like " WTF did you say?"

falloff
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Reply #21 posted 08/13/06 10:35am

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I'm a teacher. Not special ed.

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Reply #22 posted 08/13/06 10:36am

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karmatornado said:

More Acronym hell,

I have taught SDC, right now I specialize in LH, I must give My IEPS to PPS to certify my 504's. Decipher that



Ohhh... that's a long process for the 504's ain't it? It is here in Jersey...glad I don't have to do that...my kids are LD so they are not testing excempt.
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Reply #23 posted 08/13/06 10:36am

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karmatornado said:

Sweeny79 said:




lol so true... falloff

I feel like an idiot sometimes talking about school to people outside of school, they are like WTF did you just say???


Individualized Education Plan


IEP
ADD/ADHD
ED/BD
MD
OCD
ODD
SLD
..... eek

"Love Hurts.
Your lies, they cut me.
Now your words don't mean a thing.
I don't give a damn if you ever loved me..."

-Cher, "Woman's World"
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Reply #24 posted 08/13/06 10:38am

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REDFEATHERS said:

CuntOMatic said:

I'm a teacher. Not special ed.

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you are loony fishslap


No. I'm a teacher. I have 3 kids with IEPs, and I'm ready to SST a few more. Two have severe ADHD, one has fronting issues and goes to speech, and one is severely autistic. Need I say more?
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Reply #25 posted 08/13/06 10:39am

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CuntOMatic said:

REDFEATHERS said:




you are loony fishslap


No. I'm a teacher. I have 3 kids with IEPs, and I'm ready to SST a few more. Two have severe ADHD, one has fronting issues and goes to speech, and one is severely autistic. Need I say more?



Cool! Jeez with your name...it's hard to take you serious. redface

Do you have an inclusion class?
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Reply #26 posted 08/13/06 10:43am

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504's do take incredibly long. I have to do an SST in the first week of december Yeah!
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Reply #27 posted 08/13/06 10:47am

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Sweeny79 said:

CuntOMatic said:



No. I'm a teacher. I have 3 kids with IEPs, and I'm ready to SST a few more. Two have severe ADHD, one has fronting issues and goes to speech, and one is severely autistic. Need I say more?



Cool! Jeez with your name...it's hard to take you serious. redface

Do you have an inclusion class?


Well, I'm a mainstream teacher, and all the SDC kids are mainstreamed into the various classes as soon as possible - so we all end up with a lot of special needs kids from the SDC program, which is located across the street from the school.
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Reply #28 posted 08/13/06 10:47am

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Wow...
I teach an emotionally disturbed, self-contained high school class. Right now I'm struggling with this "highly qualified" crap!

"Love Hurts.
Your lies, they cut me.
Now your words don't mean a thing.
I don't give a damn if you ever loved me..."

-Cher, "Woman's World"
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Reply #29 posted 08/13/06 10:53am

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chocolate1 said:

Wow...
I teach an emotionally disturbed, self-contained high school class. Right now I'm struggling with this "highly qualified" crap!


You mean you have to take the CSET or PRAXIS?
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