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Reply #30 posted 08/10/06 6:47am

Heiress

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The Bible teaches that Christ was resurrected with all power in heaven and in Earth and that such power He gives to His followers.

So, someone who has had involvement in black magic, once saved (John 3:16), belongs to Christ and is reconciled unto God.

However, spiritual warfare such as is seen in the books of Daniel, the gospels and Revelation is a very real thing. And deliverance from the residue of that involvment sometimes takes time, especially for people whose homes and ancestry have known witchcraft.


nod

i've had this experience myself... through an ex whose family had a long history.
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Reply #31 posted 08/10/06 7:53am

ThreadBare

Heiress said:

ThreadBare said:

The Bible teaches that Christ was resurrected with all power in heaven and in Earth and that such power He gives to His followers.

So, someone who has had involvement in black magic, once saved (John 3:16), belongs to Christ and is reconciled unto God.

However, spiritual warfare such as is seen in the books of Daniel, the gospels and Revelation is a very real thing. And deliverance from the residue of that involvment sometimes takes time, especially for people whose homes and ancestry have known witchcraft.


nod

i've had this experience myself... through an ex whose family had a long history.



Yeah, it can get pretty ugly at times. The more I read the Bible, the clearer I see that God never intended for humans to mess with some things. Jesus said the enemy comes to kill, steal and destroy. Sorcery and witchcraft open up a door for him to do just that.
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Reply #32 posted 08/10/06 7:56am

Finess

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Heiress said:



nod

i've had this experience myself... through an ex whose family had a long history.



Yeah, it can get pretty ugly at times. The more I read the Bible, the clearer I see that God never intended for humans to mess with some things. Jesus said the enemy comes to kill, steal and destroy. Sorcery and witchcraft open up a door for him to do just that.



everything in life is "Ritual" weddings, birthdays,holidays
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Reply #33 posted 08/10/06 8:11am

ThreadBare

Finess said:

ThreadBare said:




Yeah, it can get pretty ugly at times. The more I read the Bible, the clearer I see that God never intended for humans to mess with some things. Jesus said the enemy comes to kill, steal and destroy. Sorcery and witchcraft open up a door for him to do just that.



everything in life is "Ritual" weddings, birthdays,holidays

That's one way of looking at it. I've never seen weddings and birthdays receive the same probitions from God in the Bible, however. That's the distinction I'm drawing.
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Reply #34 posted 08/10/06 8:55am

origmnd

Why is it such a question of what I meant?

MF's who either worship satan or do evil spells or sold their soul-ass
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