LleeLlee said:

Blade Runner
I bought a Deluxe-dvd package a few years back .


The thing that still haunts me is the scene at his home with his love-interest ,
and where you have a glimpse on Harrison's eyes which glow like the androids . It had me go
( Dang , i wanted to find that specific shot-still for placing here )
I didn't read the official novel but maybe it is explained over there .
The last line of the officer ( James Edward Olmos i believe , from Miami Vice ) means a lot too .
It was something like : "Too bad she won't live, but then again , who does ?" .
It is then quoted in Harrison's thoughts while he travels with the girl over a great landscape .


Also the first first scene and converstation which Harrison has with the love-interest looks very cool ,
with the strong sunlightning , all the smoke around her and the suddenly noticable glowing eyes .


I'm very proud as dutchie what Rutger Hauer accomplished for this great role as Roy Batty .
The end-scene with the dove is a classic moment .
I've read how Rutger auditioned for the movie .
He entered the room with spiky hair , wearing a freaky sweater and spacy shades which had Ridley like : "Okay , that's the one ".


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BlackBuddy said:

Yep . okay .
It was my own interpretation of describing it . That's why i used accolades .
But your description is more clear and to the point .

I used to love this movie when i was younger but i haven't seen it i years. Now i want to go back and watch it again.

I also really love Fight Club. That movie fascinates me to no end.

Oh yeah, it's one of my fave movies, one that I can watch any time.

100MPH said:

Rutger Hauer is amazing in the film. The scene between Sean Young (who is brilliant as Rachel) and Harrison Ford is one of my favoutites too, I love the music. She plays the piano because it's a memory she's been programmed with, It's a great scene. There's the question of Harrison Ford being a replicant himself..it's never answered.

JasmineFire said:

I LOVE Fight Club!

LleeLlee said:

I saw Ridley Scott being interviewed once. When asked whether Deckard is a replicant he adamantly said that he was. Notice how Gaff makes little paper models of animals. There's a scene where Deckard falls asleep at the piano in his apartment and dreams of a unicorn. At the end of the film before Deckard leaves with Rachel, he finds a little paper unicorn on the floor. With Gaff's words of 'Too bad she won't live...but then again, who does' playing on his mind, Deckard gives a knowing nod.

JDINTERACTIVE said:

I still think there isn't a definitve yes or no and it's ambiguous. I guess if Ridley Scott says he is then he is. lol. How does Gaff know Deckard dreams of a Unicorn? hmm.

LleeLlee said:

The replicants are programmed with memories of life which are not their own. Deckard explains this to Rachael when she comes to see him at his flat after the interview at the Tyrell Corporation. Upset and scared, she is adamant that she is human when she shows Deckard pictures of Tyrell's nieces, passing them off as her own. Deckard, tired and irritable questions her interrogation style again, explains that the photos and memories she claims to have are not hers. Rachael runs out the door upset.

JDINTERACTIVE said:

Because Rachel thinks she is human, but she can only play the piano because she's been implanted with Tyrell's neices memories. Deckard has been sent to kill her ..but ends up falling for her. We dont know if he ever does kill her.

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LleeLlee said:

I don't know if Rachael thinks she is human. I believe she is just scared of being caught. She even questions Deckard quite anxiously as to whether he would hunt her down if she fled. She was part of the Nexus 6 group I believe. When Zore and Leon are killed, Bryant explains that she is part of that group.

I don't believe he kills Rachael. They are seen leaving or rather, fleeing off together at the end of the film.

100MPH said:

Okay, I'm gonna go buy the darn thing so I can study it properly.

JDINTERACTIVE said:

Deckard knows she doesn't know and questions Tyrell about it. When Deckard tells her she's devastated. imo, I dont think she knows she is a replicant.

good movie!

brad pitt as a freak

LleeLlee said:

ed norton! brad pitt! deconstruction of american consumerism and other such themes!

LleeLlee said:

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I love 12 Monkeys.

It's also the film where I noticed that weird pointing-gesturing thing Brad Pitt does with his fingers.

They stay crooked, never straightened. Hard to explain. Pay close attention to Pitt's fingers in that movie, and you might see what I mean.

ufoclub said:

LleeLlee said:

Which is actually quite different compared to the movie, IMO. Love 'em both, though.

I hate to sound superficial but I love watching the movie for the sole purpose of Brad Pitt's booty shot.

Lawd!


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JasmineFire said:

Down with consumerism, corporate art and Ikea! hehe!

LleeLlee said:

I just don't think she knows what she is as Deckard says in that said conversation. I think it gives Rachael's character that air of innocence to some extent. She seems erratic in the love scene for example.

JDINTERACTIVE said:

As Tyrell says, he thinks she's beginning to suspect, but she is convinced she's human as she has childhood memories. Also, dont forget that in the love scene she hasn't experienced sex/intimacy before. She does have an innocence, a dignity, you feel for her.

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LleeLlee said:

I will have to re-watch that scene.

JDINTERACTIVE said:

It's interesting that you feel for Rachael even though she isn't human, you dont want Deckard to kill her. She's a robot but a very convincing human too lol. It poses the question of, if androids can feel emotion, what separates them for us?

I thought this was about 12 Monkeys?
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the soundtrack to 12 monkeys is cool!

Terilicious said:

No, now it's about clasic paranoid sci-fi. Any Harlan Ellison fans here?

Thunderbird said:

Nope , but i'm happy to learn about his worx .


And thanx alot LleeLlee & JDinteractive for analysing , clearing-up & discussing that scene between Rachel & Deckard It's great and deep psychology which Ridley has put in that classic masterpiece , due to the Philip K. Dick novel which i'm gonna plan to read in the near future .

Other scenes i dig deep are when Roy Batty tells Deckard on the roof in the rain about his adventures in outerspace with a classic line which i can't exactly recall right now but went something like : "I've seen things beyond belief ...."
I still want to complete to buy the dvd's in which Rutger had some cool acting-scenes . I'm not shure how he was in Ladyhawk with Michelle Pfeiffer .

The other scene from BladeRunner is when Deckard arrives at home and the viewer get's an idea & sight how the technics work in his house .
When he's in he says : "Lights ... " , and the room is litten up subtle .
Then he goes examing a photograph of a victim-replicant ( i believe the snake-woman ) .
With some of his specific equipment he can project the photograph on a wallscreen , and zoom to detailed parts in the pic . It works with a mathematical grid , like looking at a road-map . He says specific numbers to which the equipment will zoom in .
Finally , he sees a suspicious detail which he can project in a mirror-kinda way , and where he sees the watermark under the chin of the victim , which tells it's a replicant .
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100MPH said:

Do that! It's absolutely great, but also emphazises other aspects of the story than the movie.