Chelsea once again of course that is why we are champs, with the addition of Michael Ballack we will be unstoppable. Go Chelsea. I may be an american football coach but I love my English Premier League

I think you might be right

I will be firmly behind Watford this season though!!

Oh god another glory hunter! Ever been to see em? Or did the fact that they bought the title sway you. They are just a small team with money!
Look at the history..... damnit. I was just starting to like you too

mdiver said:

calm, calm,

mdiver said:

I have looked at their history, I have been to a game! Chelsea BluE is the shit!

karmatornado said:

"a" game..... one game a supporter does not make my friend still each to their own....i will bite my lip....you better be a good drinker my friend coz we will talk and fight about footie till the cows come home.....
definately gonna wear my spurs top to your dads bar!

It is all fine and dandy, but remember I live in california and do not have the luxury to fly and see the EPL weekly. I watch it weekly on Fox Sky SPorts though! And yes we will debate, I can drink Boddingtons with the best!

karmatornado said:

mdiver said:

boddingtons

Boddingtons, Warsteiner, and John Courage My 3 favorite beers to drink when watching the EPL, what about you wankers?

karmatornado said:

Ahem.....remember our conversation ..... *cough* subtle

mdiver said:

Sorry what are your favorite beverages when enjoying the fine game of football? better?

I've been to see one 'spurs game

karmatornado said:

Much better mate.

Tends to be Grolsch or recently Magners coz the pub i drink in (The Bricklayers arms) on the high road has it on tap

Tends to be Grolsch or recently Magners coz the pub i drink in (The Bricklayers arms) on the high road has it on tap[/quote]

Now mangers is quite delicious but Grolsch that is almost as bad as Budweiser!

Did anyone see the Times piece on the greatest English football clubs of all time? They drew up an all time top flight table from 1888 based on games played, wins, draws, losses, goals for and against, goal difference, points, win draw and loss percentage and finally points per game. I'm sure I could copy and paste it from somewhere but for now here's just a list of the top 20 with their win percentages.

1. Liverpool (45.95%)
2. Man Utd (45.70%)
3. Arsenal (44.25%)
4. Leeds Utd (41.01%)
5. Aston Villa (41.46%)
6. Everton (40.68%)
7. Tottenham (39.97%)
8. Newcastle Utd (39.69%)
9. Wolves (39.72%)
10. Burnley (39.56%)
11. Sunderland (39.35%)
12. Preston NE (38.94%)
13. Huddersfield Town (38.08%)
14. Chelsea (37.50%)
15. Sheffield Wednesday (37.96%)
16. Blackburn Rovers (37.88%)
17. Manchester City (37.24%)
18. Ipswich Town (37.08%)
19. Derby County (37.28%)
20. Nottingham Forest (36.73%)


18 league titles and 5 European Cups, plus the stats which showed Liverpool came out on top, should leave nobody in doubt who the greatest English team of all time are.



For Predom, Watford came in at number 37, with a 34.38 win percentage. My beloved Brighton are down in 52nd, barely above relatively unknown Darwen and also Glossop.

And chelsea will rise like the head of a good beer to the top of that list soon!

karmatornado said:

Were Chelsea below Spurs on that! Heritage and history my friend

karmatornado said:

They'd have to keep getting more than 90 points a season for 23 years to overhaul Liverpool's points per game. Anybody can win for a few seasons.

Liverpool, Man U and Arsenal are by far the top English teams of all time.

Chelsea must be favourites again this year, but I'm hoping for some squabbling in the ego filled Chelsea squad.

karmatornado said:

Do you know how many years it will take to make up that 8 or so percent? Almost impossible unless the top rankers commit Italian style relegation suicide

Fauxie said:

Never Cole and Ballack will reign supreme and We will surely catch the SPurs my mate!

PREDOMINANT said:

I think he figured they'd be at the top if they won another couple of Premiership titles.

The table doesn't even consider European titles either.

The aforementioned by fauxie!

The table doesn't even consider European titles either.[/quote]

You here that Driver! In your face!

karmatornado said:

Even that would take years, and you'd still only be the second greatest team ever in just your city.

karmatornado said:

You here that Driver! In your face! [/quote]

I think he's talking to you Phil, although I am a bit lost as to the emphasis of the comment?

karmatornado said:

You here that Driver! In your face! [/quote]


Do you wanna talk about european titles my friend...feel free to do the research

Interestingly, you'd think perhaps a Chelsea fan might point to flair or goalscoring as one plus of Chelsea over other teams that should be considered, but not one Chelsea team is in the top 10 highest scoring teams. The 2006 Chelsea team makes it into the defensive category at number 6, so that might suggest the blues don't exactly play the most attacking football either.

karmatornado said:

You here that Driver! In your face! [/quote]


For the avoidance of doubt here are the stats:

Cup winners Cup

Spurs 1962

Chelsea 1971,1998

Champions League 0-0

UEFA Cup

Spurs 1972, 1984

Chelsea 0


So that is 3 European Titles to Spurs and 2 for Chelscum

So that puts them further down i think you will find!

mdiver said:

For the avoidance of doubt here are the stats:

Cup winners Cup

Spurs 1962

Chelsea 1971,1998

Champions League 0-0

UEFA Cup

Spurs 1972, 1984

Chelsea 0


So that is 3 European Titles to Spurs and 2 for Chelscum

So that puts them further down i think you will find! [/quote]

This is the year the blue catches SPurs, and take note, how long ago was your Euro Title ours was in 98! I was 4 years old during your last title!