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PrintablereneGade20 said: superspaceboy said: Arizona Animal Welfare League Shelter Adoption Hours: Monday - Closed Tuesday - Friday: 11am - 7pm Saturday - Sunday: 9am - 5pm 30 North 40th Place Phoenix Arizona 85034 (602) 273-6852 The Arizona Animal Welfare League (AAWL), the largest and oldest "no-kill" shelter in Arizona, opened in 1971. The AAWL was founded by Amanda Blake, who played Miss Kitty on TV's "Gunsmoke", and other animal lovers who were concerned about the number of stray animals at the local county facilities. For over 30 years, the AAWL has rescued thousands of homeless animals and provided important humane services to animals and people. The AAWL is a private, non-profit animal shelter with our own Board of Directors. All of our funding is through tax-deductible donations. So.....whats ur point? Hmm could it be to offer info on a shelter near where someone lives who may need to know. I think that was my point. Also as this thread IS on Pets and abuse and negletion of such, it seemed appropriate to post. Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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Whateva said: Iggykatt said: They were very poor and the had chickens for eggs and for dinner. My father got attached to this one bird and the rest is history. It was either save "Chicken" (my father had NO imagination with names) or feed 11 people. They opted to have the chicken... Trust me he is over that now...the man is in his sixties and hasn't turned down a two piece from Popeye's lately.  OK different times, but they could at least have givin him a worning. I'm trying to translate the song,  babelfish was hillarious, can't even use it to translate it for you.
Thought I'll just do it for fun, but it's quiete a job  Thanks! I would love to read it. That is Dutch, right?? When I was in Germany my colleages would fall out laughing at me because I would use Babelfish to translate something into German. They could have but my grandfather was the meanest man in the world...I'm serious. Killing my father's chicken didn't phase him. I guess he was one of those non pet people as well. "Pussycat, pussycat whr4 art thou puppy??" | |
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superspaceboy said: reneGade20 said: So.....whats ur point? Hmm could it be to offer info on a shelter near where someone lives who may need to know. I think that was my point. Also as this thread IS on Pets and abuse and negletion of such, it seemed appropriate to post. E for effort....T for nice try....but I don't recall Iggy mentioning that she had need of a shelter....I do seem to recall that she mentioned Arizona....so I'm trying to put 2 and 2 together....was the address and info directed at her....or for her to pass on? Because I know for a fact that when people become pet owners on a military post, they are provided all of the info they need for the care of their pets.....and by Army regulations, ur pets have to be registered (on post and in the local community) and microchipped for ID purposes....u also have to attend a MANDATORY class before u can even have a pet in military housing.... just wondering.... He was like a cock who thought the sun had risen to hear him crow.
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reneGade20 said: just wondering....
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lol just teasing... and btw superspaceboy... i will pass that info on to my parents... they had a huge feral cat problem last winter in their senior complex the dog across the street from me always seems to be in the backyard by himself i have never seen the owner take him for a walk his backyard is a lot smaller than mine because of house additions and the poor thing will whine and whine i used to think he was only outside by himself when the guy wasn't home but often i have seen the guy leave after the dog has been bawling in the yard by himself   She couldn't stop crying 'cause she knew he was gone to stay | |
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reneGade20 said: superspaceboy said: Hmm could it be to offer info on a shelter near where someone lives who may need to know. I think that was my point. Also as this thread IS on Pets and abuse and negletion of such, it seemed appropriate to post. E for effort....T for nice try....but I don't recall Iggy mentioning that she had need of a shelter....I do seem to recall that she mentioned Arizona....so I'm trying to put 2 and 2 together....was the address and info directed at her....or for her to pass on? Because I know for a fact that when people become pet owners on a military post, they are provided all of the info they need for the care of their pets.....and by Army regulations, ur pets have to be registered (on post and in the local community) and microchipped for ID purposes....u also have to attend a MANDATORY class before u can even have a pet in military housing.... just wondering.... it was just an FYI. She lives in AZ. It's in AZ. SHe sees people leave dogs to Coyotes at the post. No, she didn't say she needed a shelter, but you know she may run into someone that may need one or is too fed up with their dog or cat. Maybe this post helps her retain the info that there IS one in AZ or maybe not. Why you are bustin my chops for it I don't know. just sayin. Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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brownsugar said: people don't realize that pets are similar to raising kids, you have to be responsible, they just didn't care because they don't consider animals as important as humans. if you don't want the responsibility don't get them.
 Exactly, thus my comment about viewing pets as "entertainment", here on earth to give unconditional love to us and put up with our crap, and then be treated like worthless garbage when we get "bored" or they aren't meeting our needs anymore. | |
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ThreadBare said: And, pets give so much love in return. It's so sad.
Yeah, and here's the thing: we take in these wild animals and domesticate them--making them rely on us for food, water, affection, sometimes we declaw them (which leaves them unable to defend themselves against predators) and then when we become bored or annoyed, cast them out thinking "oh, they're wild animals, they'll survive". Maybe they would have before we tamed them, but now they won't. And raccoons and possums are NO JOKE, they'll tear a cat up. | |
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superspaceboy said: reneGade20 said: E for effort....T for nice try....but I don't recall Iggy mentioning that she had need of a shelter....I do seem to recall that she mentioned Arizona....so I'm trying to put 2 and 2 together....was the address and info directed at her....or for her to pass on? Because I know for a fact that when people become pet owners on a military post, they are provided all of the info they need for the care of their pets.....and by Army regulations, ur pets have to be registered (on post and in the local community) and microchipped for ID purposes....u also have to attend a MANDATORY class before u can even have a pet in military housing.... just wondering.... it was just an FYI. She lives in AZ. It's in AZ. SHe sees people leave dogs to Coyotes at the post. No, she didn't say she needed a shelter, but you know she may run into someone that may need one or is too fed up with their dog or cat. Maybe this post helps her retain the info that there IS one in AZ or maybe not. Why you are bustin my chops for it I don't know. just sayin. cuz bustin chops is my favorite meal.....
...no hate involved....just lookin out for my better half.....thought u was pullin a ccollins88 on her....  ...we cool, right??He was like a cock who thought the sun had risen to hear him crow.
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Iggykatt said: It burns me up to read or hear stories like that one. When you have a pet it is another memeber of the household. To say that you "got tired" of having the pet and let it out hoping it would die is cruel. Your parents are beautiful souls to take care of the cat like they did.
That is like getting tired of a child and just putting it outside hoping it will go away. The animals start to see the owner as their parent... My brother had a Pug. A Pug is definitely NOT a outside dog. They would get tired of him and throw him outside...in this Arizona heat. They are definitely NOT pet people. I now have the Pug because I felt bad for him. Tiko is now happy, healthy, not shedding, and his coat is silky again. I have told him off on many occasions about the dog, and he is my brother. I am aout to take in another cat (I have one already) because the owner said that she is about to throw it outside to become coyote meal. That is just cruel... The woman offered to repay my parents for the vet bill when she found out, and acted soooo surprised that leaving a cat outdoors for 3 weeks would cause so many medical problems (I forgot to add in the original post that the cat also had a bad upper respiratory infection), but my parents told her "nevermind" because they don't want their neighborly relationship to suffer. At least she had the awareness to seem a bit embarrassed, and promised my parents that she's a better mom to her kids than to her cats.  | |
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ccollin88 said: Iggykatt said: Well... My father had a pet chicken. Took care of it from chick to chicken. He considered it his pet. he went to school one day and came home to a fried chicken dinner. He didn't realize that he had eaten his "pet" for dinner. My father was so upset over this he didn't eat chicken for years. Be it cow, chicken, cat , dog, lizard, whatever...if you come to love the critter then it is special. [Edited 7/21/06 12:56pm] but i bet it taste gooooodd! You are lucky I know who you really are and that I know you're not serious! | |
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reneGade20 said: superspaceboy said: it was just an FYI. She lives in AZ. It's in AZ. SHe sees people leave dogs to Coyotes at the post. No, she didn't say she needed a shelter, but you know she may run into someone that may need one or is too fed up with their dog or cat. Maybe this post helps her retain the info that there IS one in AZ or maybe not. Why you are bustin my chops for it I don't know. just sayin. cuz bustin chops is my favorite meal.....
...no hate involved....just lookin out for my better half.....thought u was pullin a ccollins88 on her.... ...we cool, right??Just can't make yourself type w.i.f.e. can ya?? 
Spaceboy the information was great. I will ask my boss to post this on her board. Especially for those people PCSing out of the country. Thanks a bunch... "Pussycat, pussycat whr4 art thou puppy??" | |
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AnotherLoverToo said: Iggykatt said: It burns me up to read or hear stories like that one. When you have a pet it is another memeber of the household. To say that you "got tired" of having the pet and let it out hoping it would die is cruel. Your parents are beautiful souls to take care of the cat like they did.
That is like getting tired of a child and just putting it outside hoping it will go away. The animals start to see the owner as their parent... My brother had a Pug. A Pug is definitely NOT a outside dog. They would get tired of him and throw him outside...in this Arizona heat. They are definitely NOT pet people. I now have the Pug because I felt bad for him. Tiko is now happy, healthy, not shedding, and his coat is silky again. I have told him off on many occasions about the dog, and he is my brother. I am aout to take in another cat (I have one already) because the owner said that she is about to throw it outside to become coyote meal. That is just cruel... The woman offered to repay my parents for the vet bill when she found out, and acted soooo surprised that leaving a cat outdoors for 3 weeks would cause so many medical problems (I forgot to add in the original post that the cat also had a bad upper respiratory infection), but my parents told her "nevermind" because they don't want their neighborly relationship to suffer. At least she had the awareness to seem a bit embarrassed, and promised my parents that she's a better mom to her kids than to her cats. I am GLAD she was embarassed. Your parents are good people. "Pussycat, pussycat whr4 art thou puppy??" | |
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AnotherLoverToo said: ThreadBare said: And, pets give so much love in return. It's so sad.
Yeah, and here's the thing: we take in these wild animals and domesticate them--making them rely on us for food, water, affection, sometimes we declaw them (which leaves them unable to defend themselves against predators) and then when we become bored or annoyed, cast them out thinking "oh, they're wild animals, they'll survive". Maybe they would have before we tamed them, but now they won't. And raccoons and possums are NO JOKE, they'll tear a cat up. You are right...The Pug (that I now own) was cornered by raccoons. They are everywhere around here. They scared him away from his food. The dog hadn't eaten for a couple of days before my brother looked out the window and saw waht was going on...hence me owning the dog now. He has no worries about raccoons...maybe the cat messing with him but he is not in danger now... "Pussycat, pussycat whr4 art thou puppy??" | |
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reneGade20 said: MickG said: I truly don't know what it is that people think when they get a pet.
To me a pet is a friend and family member. as they are to most ADULTS....what happens is some parents get their too young children pets....a live action toy if u will....and when the puppy/kitten/chick/"insert baby animal here" stops being cute and cuddly and actually requires attention and care, the kid loses interest, and a family that really didn't want a pet to begin with is, for all intents, stuck with one....that is how u end up with situations like the one that kicked off the thread.... ...some of us are having some fun with the topic, but I'm certain that no one espouses animal abuse...  Yeah, I agree about questioning the motives of adults buying pets for their kids. It seems like a symptom of newer parenting techniques, especially of working parents who may feel guilty and want to give their kids whatever they want, without thinking of consequences. A pet is not a videogame or Barbie, a disposable commodity to toss out when the newer model comes along. What it takes to care for a pet can be a great life lesson to teach a child, and allowing a kid to treat it carelessly is not doing any favors for your kid--you don't want to teach a child that if something gets hard or tough in life, they can just move along. | |
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Iggykatt said: reneGade20 said: cuz bustin chops is my favorite meal.....
...no hate involved....just lookin out for my better half.....thought u was pullin a ccollins88 on her.... ...we cool, right??Just can't make yourself type [b]w.i.f.e. can ya?? [/b]
Spaceboy the information was great. I will ask my boss to post this on her board. Especially for those people PCSing out of the country. Thanks a bunch...  u can't make me.....    He was like a cock who thought the sun had risen to hear him crow.
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reneGade20 said: superspaceboy said: it was just an FYI. She lives in AZ. It's in AZ. SHe sees people leave dogs to Coyotes at the post. No, she didn't say she needed a shelter, but you know she may run into someone that may need one or is too fed up with their dog or cat. Maybe this post helps her retain the info that there IS one in AZ or maybe not. Why you are bustin my chops for it I don't know. just sayin. cuz bustin chops is my favorite meal.....
...no hate involved....just lookin out for my better half.....thought u was pullin a ccollins88 on her.... ...we cool, right??Kool and the gang 
I don't pull any coolio type crap unless I know the person or if the whole thread is faceious. I actually found his/her responses kinda rude and not cool. Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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sag10 said: This truly upsets me..
Pets are so loving..  | |
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applekisses said:  I know 
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CarrieMpls said: applekisses said: me too. truly awful. I know, it makes you think of how you'd feel if your own precious kitty had been adopted by people like that and being treated that way!!  | |
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AnotherLoverToo said: reneGade20 said: as they are to most ADULTS....what happens is some parents get their too young children pets....a live action toy if u will....and when the puppy/kitten/chick/"insert baby animal here" stops being cute and cuddly and actually requires attention and care, the kid loses interest, and a family that really didn't want a pet to begin with is, for all intents, stuck with one....that is how u end up with situations like the one that kicked off the thread.... ...some of us are having some fun with the topic, but I'm certain that no one espouses animal abuse... Yeah, I agree about questioning the motives of adults buying pets for their kids. It seems like a symptom of newer parenting techniques, especially of working parents who may feel guilty and want to give their kids whatever they want, without thinking of consequences. A pet is not a videogame or Barbie, a disposable commodity to toss out when the newer model comes along. What it takes to care for a pet can be a great life lesson to teach a child, and allowing a kid to treat it carelessly is not doing any favors for your kid--you don't want to teach a child that if something gets hard or tough in life, they can just move along. I agree...my brother was guilty of that. I asked them why in the hell did they buy that child another living vreature. She obviously is too young to take care of it properly. I suggested a stuffed animal. The worst thing about this whole dog thing is they don't even come by to see him. The child that had a tantrum because we were taking him doesn't play with him when she is here...the only time she claims him is when he goes to someone else. She was the reason the dog has seizures...I wouldn't want to go by her myself. I am worried that we will all become attached to him. They are wanting to take him back after a year... "Pussycat, pussycat whr4 art thou puppy??" | |
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superspaceboy said: reneGade20 said: So.....whats ur point? Hmm could it be to offer info on a shelter near where someone lives who may need to know. I think that was my point. Also as this thread IS on Pets and abuse and negletion of such, it seemed appropriate to post. Thanks, SuperSpaceBoy, I appreciate getting the message out there and it may prompt those of us in other states to look up similar places here, if the need arises, or if this thread causes someone to realize they know of an abandoned or neglected pet. | |
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Iggykatt said: reneGade20 said: cuz bustin chops is my favorite meal.....
...no hate involved....just lookin out for my better half.....thought u was pullin a ccollins88 on her.... ...we cool, right??Just can't make yourself type w.i.f.e. can ya??
Spaceboy the information was great. I will ask my boss to post this on her board. Especially for those people PCSing out of the country. Thanks a bunch... Hey, are you and renegade20 married? That's cool when a married couple posts together on the site, usually it's just one spouse posting and talking about the other! | |
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Iggykatt said: AnotherLoverToo said: Yeah, and here's the thing: we take in these wild animals and domesticate them--making them rely on us for food, water, affection, sometimes we declaw them (which leaves them unable to defend themselves against predators) and then when we become bored or annoyed, cast them out thinking "oh, they're wild animals, they'll survive". Maybe they would have before we tamed them, but now they won't. And raccoons and possums are NO JOKE, they'll tear a cat up. You are right...The Pug (that I now own) was cornered by raccoons. They are everywhere around here. They scared him away from his food. The dog hadn't eaten for a couple of days before my brother looked out the window and saw waht was going on...hence me owning the dog now. He has no worries about raccoons...maybe the cat messing with him but he is not in danger now... A friend of mine who lives in California was telling me that she'd read a news item recently about some type of water or food shortage in the area which was forcing raccoons in the Bay Area to hunt outdoor cats for food.  | |
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AnotherLoverToo said: Iggykatt said: Just can't make yourself type w.i.f.e. can ya??
Spaceboy the information was great. I will ask my boss to post this on her board. Especially for those people PCSing out of the country. Thanks a bunch... Hey, are you and renegade20 married? That's cool when a married couple posts together on the site, usually it's just one spouse posting and talking about the other! Yep...15 years (he just loves that I keep saying just how long he has been chained to me) We are both Prince fans...and I think it is fun. "Pussycat, pussycat whr4 art thou puppy??" | |
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Iggykatt said: AnotherLoverToo said: Yeah, I agree about questioning the motives of adults buying pets for their kids. It seems like a symptom of newer parenting techniques, especially of working parents who may feel guilty and want to give their kids whatever they want, without thinking of consequences. A pet is not a videogame or Barbie, a disposable commodity to toss out when the newer model comes along. What it takes to care for a pet can be a great life lesson to teach a child, and allowing a kid to treat it carelessly is not doing any favors for your kid--you don't want to teach a child that if something gets hard or tough in life, they can just move along. I agree...my brother was guilty of that. I asked them why in the hell did they buy that child another living vreature. She obviously is too young to take care of it properly. I suggested a stuffed animal. The worst thing about this whole dog thing is they don't even come by to see him. The child that had a tantrum because we were taking him doesn't play with him when she is here...the only time she claims him is when he goes to someone else. She was the reason the dog has seizures...I wouldn't want to go by her myself. I am worried that we will all become attached to him. They are wanting to take him back after a year... OMG, that's exactly what this neighbor's kid did!! When they got home from their 2 week vacation, the 12 yr old was riding his bike and saw "his" cat on my parent's porch and ran up to the door, crying, saying it was "his" cat. According to his mom, the kid doesn't want the cats and is "tired" of them, yet when he saw the cat with someone else, his territorial hormones kicked in. | |
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AnotherLoverToo said: Iggykatt said: You are right...The Pug (that I now own) was cornered by raccoons. They are everywhere around here. They scared him away from his food. The dog hadn't eaten for a couple of days before my brother looked out the window and saw waht was going on...hence me owning the dog now. He has no worries about raccoons...maybe the cat messing with him but he is not in danger now... A friend of mine who lives in California was telling me that she'd read a news item recently about some type of water or food shortage in the area which was forcing raccoons in the Bay Area to hunt outdoor cats for food. Which is why my cat stays indoors. I can hear those critters at night...they are definitely NOT the raccoons that Disney dreamed up... "Pussycat, pussycat whr4 art thou puppy??" | |
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Iggykatt said: AnotherLoverToo said: Hey, are you and renegade20 married? That's cool when a married couple posts together on the site, usually it's just one spouse posting and talking about the other! Yep...15 years (he just loves that I keep saying just how long he has been chained to me) We are both Prince fans...and I think it is fun. You guys are awesome!  | |
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Iggykatt said: AnotherLoverToo said: Hey, are you and renegade20 married? That's cool when a married couple posts together on the site, usually it's just one spouse posting and talking about the other! Yep...15 years (he just loves that I keep saying just how long he has been chained to me) We are both Prince fans...and I think it is fun. WILL WORK FOR FOOD, SHELTER AND.....HUBBA HUBBA!!!!
WILL ALSO WORK FOR RETURN OF YOUTHFUL IDEALISM AND ETERNAL SOUL....she won't give them back!!! HELP!!!!  [Edited 7/21/06 16:28pm] He was like a cock who thought the sun had risen to hear him crow.
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AnotherLoverToo said: Iggykatt said: I agree...my brother was guilty of that. I asked them why in the hell did they buy that child another living vreature. She obviously is too young to take care of it properly. I suggested a stuffed animal. The worst thing about this whole dog thing is they don't even come by to see him. The child that had a tantrum because we were taking him doesn't play with him when she is here...the only time she claims him is when he goes to someone else. She was the reason the dog has seizures...I wouldn't want to go by her myself. I am worried that we will all become attached to him. They are wanting to take him back after a year... OMG, that's exactly what this neighbor's kid did!! When they got home from their 2 week vacation, the 12 yr old was riding his bike and saw "his" cat on my parent's porch and ran up to the door, crying, saying it was "his" cat. According to his mom, the kid doesn't want the cats and is "tired" of them, yet when he saw the cat with someone else, his territorial hormones kicked in. It happens everytime with my niece. I think I am becoming the mean aunt or something because I pretty much tell her that the dog live with US now and she is just visiting. "Pussycat, pussycat whr4 art thou puppy??" | |
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reneGade20 said: Iggykatt said: Yep...15 years (he just loves that I keep saying just how long he has been chained to me) We are both Prince fans...and I think it is fun. WILL WORK FOR FOOD, SHELTER AND.....HUBBA HUBBA!!!!
WILL ALSO WORK FOR RETURN OF YOUTHFUL IDEALISM AND ETERNAL SOUL....she won't give them back!!! HELP!!!!
[Edited 7/21/06 16:28pm] Shut up....or there will be no dinner tonight. At least that is why I am so young...and you are not. Stop threadjacking... "Pussycat, pussycat whr4 art thou puppy??" | |
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