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PrintableThreadBare said: Barbaro has gotten better health care and attention since his unfortunate accident than many humans within the same state of Pennsylvania will ever know.
I hate to hear about an animal suffering, and his situation is tragic. But it doesn't warrant this much media attention, IMHO. I agree. This horse is getting international attention for being in a situation that's not all that uncommon, but people die sitting in waiting rooms and sleeping in alleys and no one says a damn thing about it. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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Lammastide said: Can someone answer something for me? I'm totally ignorant of horse physiology.
Why is it a horse has to just friggin' die when it's hurt!? People break limbs, as do dogs, cats, yada yada yada... And they recover. Why is it that a horse injury so threatens their life? [Edited 7/16/06 21:16pm] i'm not up to date on the injury to this horse, (laminitis is when the coffin bone in the foot rotates, causing much pain) however, i do know that a horse carries up to 70% of it's weight on its front legs.that can be about a 1/2 ton for an average size horse. from experience I can say that these animals do not do well with restricted movement and that other ailments can occur with reduced activity for a prolonged period of time. It usually isn't about if they can survive or not, it's more about quality of life and,unfortunately, sometimes what they can produce | |
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ThreadBare said: HoneymoonXpress said: It does when tens of millions of dollars is on the line, sweetie. Those horses don't come cheap, you know. I go back to the contributions Barbaro will make to society, as opposed to a poor person receiving much inferior care... A horse vs. a person... This really isn't about a horse vs people. It's up to the owners to decide how to spend their money. If the horse was put down right away, all that money saved would still be theirs. It wouldn't magically float out to help poor people. It's not immoral for them to decide to save their own horse, as long as they can pay for it themselves. For all we know the owners could donate a lot of money to charity, it's their call. "Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind"-Dr Seuss
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shellyevon said: ThreadBare said: I go back to the contributions Barbaro will make to society, as opposed to a poor person receiving much inferior care... A horse vs. a person... This really isn't about a horse vs people. It's up to the owners to decide how to spend their money. If the horse was put down right away, all that money saved would still be theirs. It wouldn't magically float out to help poor people. It's not immoral for them to decide to save their own horse, as long as they can pay for it themselves. For all we know the owners could donate a lot of money to charity, it's their call. No, I agree with you. My quibble isn't with Barbaro's wealthy owners, or even with their wealth. It's with the state of the health care industry and a news industry that perpetuates out-of-whack priorities sometimes. | |
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meltwithu said: 
why do people sign get well cards for a horse that can't read? 
on the plus side...he's hung like a horse 
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JasmineFire said: horses are not meant to race or to show, imho.
it seems like all of their problems stem from these activities. i'm sure horse people (shudder) will think differently, but that's because they are crazy and scary (for the most part, there are two normal ones who i know). but what do i know? i'm a small animal and exotics kinda gal.   I totally agree. Horses actually have the mental and emotional capacity of a pet dog...they become very attached to their owners and are highly intelligent. I hate seeing them, or any animal, run into the ground just for someone's sport. | |
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applekisses said: JasmineFire said: horses are not meant to race or to show, imho.
it seems like all of their problems stem from these activities. i'm sure horse people (shudder) will think differently, but that's because they are crazy and scary (for the most part, there are two normal ones who i know). but what do i know? i'm a small animal and exotics kinda gal. I totally agree. Horses actually have the mental and emotional capacity of a pet dog...they become very attached to their owners and are highly intelligent. I hate seeing them, or any animal, run into the ground just for someone's sport. | |
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HoneymoonXpress said: applekisses said: I totally agree. Horses actually have the mental and emotional capacity of a pet dog...they become very attached to their owners and are highly intelligent. I hate seeing them, or any animal, run into the ground just for someone's sport.Why are you rolling your eyes at me, newbie? | |
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applekisses said: JasmineFire said: horses are not meant to race or to show, imho.
it seems like all of their problems stem from these activities. i'm sure horse people (shudder) will think differently, but that's because they are crazy and scary (for the most part, there are two normal ones who i know). but what do i know? i'm a small animal and exotics kinda gal. I totally agree. Horses actually have the mental and emotional capacity of a pet dog...they become very attached to their owners and are highly intelligent. I hate seeing them, or any animal, run into the ground just for someone's sport.the stress that is put on racers legs is tough ... and a main point is this .. they start racing before they are done developing so they are naturally prone to leg injuries because the bones, muscles and tendons are not fully mature i  my horsies 
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applekisses said: HoneymoonXpress said: Why are you rolling your eyes at me, newbie? maybe she's a horse person? | |
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Samaar said: Lammastide said: Can someone answer something for me? I'm totally ignorant of horse physiology.
Why is it a horse has to just friggin' die when it's hurt!? People break limbs, as do dogs, cats, yada yada yada... And they recover. Why is it that a horse injury so threatens their life? [Edited 7/16/06 21:16pm] i'm not up to date on the injury to this horse, (laminitis is when the coffin bone in the foot rotates, causing much pain) however, i do know that a horse carries up to 70% of it's weight on its front legs.that can be about a 1/2 ton for an average size horse. from experience I can say that these animals do not do well with restricted movement and that other ailments can occur with reduced activity for a prolonged period of time. It usually isn't about if they can survive or not, it's more about quality of life and,unfortunately, sometimes what they can produce Thanks. Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
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Lammastide said: Samaar said: i'm not up to date on the injury to this horse, (laminitis is when the coffin bone in the foot rotates, causing much pain) however, i do know that a horse carries up to 70% of it's weight on its front legs.that can be about a 1/2 ton for an average size horse. from experience I can say that these animals do not do well with restricted movement and that other ailments can occur with reduced activity for a prolonged period of time. It usually isn't about if they can survive or not, it's more about quality of life and,unfortunately, sometimes what they can produce Thanks. | |
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