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Thread started 07/07/06 2:37pm

meltwithu

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should you feel bad for somebody who gets injured doing dumb shit?

case in point....
American seriously injured after first bull run of this year's San Fermin festival
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Enlarge By Jesus Caso, AP

A runner protects his head after falling during the first run of the famous San Fermin festival. Since record-keeping began in 1924, 13 people have been killed during the runs. The last death was in 1995.




PAMPLONA, Spain (AP) — A New York man was partially paralyzed after a mock bullfight following the first running of the bulls Friday in Pamplona, and seven other people were hospitalized after being gored or trampled by the massive beasts.
Danger is what draws throngs of revelers to Spain's most famous festival each year, and danger is what they got in the narrow streets of this ancient Spanish city.

Ray Ducharme, 31, was injured in what is known as a vaquilla, in which hundreds of people chase five cows around the bull ring, pulling their ears and tail. The cows are smaller than fighting bulls and have less imposing horns, but they still weigh hundreds of pounds and can be threatening.

Ducharme was thrown by a young cow in the event and underwent a 90-minute operation at the Hospital de Navarra to reattach two vertebrae.

"He is paralyzed in the legs, and will have partial use of his arms," said Pello Pellejero, a Pamplona government spokesman. "He is in very serious condition."

Seven injuries were reported during the run itself, at least two of them serious: New Zealander David MacDowell, 25, was gored in the thigh, and a Pamplona native, Ramon Garayoa, 46, fell and was trampled.

The bull run began at 8 a.m. when six bulls, each weighing about 1,500 pounds, stormed out of a corral where they spent the night, then zoomed up packed Cuesta Santo Domingo street at the start of the 900-yard run. They were accompanied by six castrated steers who know the route and are meant to keep the bulls in a single pack.

Thousands of runners, most wearing traditional white shirts and pants and sporting red handkerchiefs, dashed in front of them. Each pack ran with the bulls for a short distance before darting out of harm's way.

The rampage ends in minutes. The bulls rush into the Plaza de Toros, where some of Spain's better-known bullfighters awaited them in the afternoon. The festival lasts nine days.

Before Ducharme's injuries became known, runners said their brush with death was everything they had hoped for.

"It was total emotion. It was absolutely crazy. The bull was right next to me and I touched him," said Norman Rilling, 25, from Bakersfield, Calif.

Bulls are surprisingly fast animals, and many of the runners had been up all night drinking. Police are instructed not to let anybody who looks too inebriated take part in an effort to cut down on injuries.

That is easier said than done, and many participants had clearly had long nights.

Julio Bernavides Alvaran, 65, who came to the festival from Valencia in southeastern Spain, said he wandered the streets for hours looking for a place to sleep before deciding to use his credit card to get into an empty bank machine cubicle.

Still, he only had a couple of hours of rest before the run, which he described as the thrill of a lifetime.

"Life disappears, and you feel your blood moving in your veins," he said. "Either that, or it's all the whiskey."

The San Fermin festival dates back to the late 16th century, but it was Ernest Hemingway's 1926 novel The Sun Also Rises that made it famous. A bronze bust of the writer stands outside the bullring where the runs end.

Since record-keeping began in 1924, 13 people have been killed during the runs. The last death was in 1995.

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Posted 7/7/2006 6:28 AM ET
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you look better on your facebook page than you do in person hmph!
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Reply #1 posted 07/07/06 3:37pm

PANDURITO

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meltwithu said:

'should you feel bad for somebody who gets injured doing dumb shit?'

I feel bad for him nod even if voluntarily exposing oneself to a known danger is stupid.
But I can't help feeling bad about the families. That phone call from Spain...
Terrible hrmph
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Reply #2 posted 07/07/06 4:00pm

violator

Maybe this is wrong, but no. But I wouldn't even call it dumb. It's definitely not something I would do. But they knew the risks prior. So it's hard for me to feel too bad for them.
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Reply #3 posted 07/07/06 8:18pm

TMPletz

Why people would want to risk death like that is beyond me. shrug
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Reply #4 posted 07/07/06 9:50pm

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Hell and No. I have no bad feelings when people suffer consequences as a result of their stupidity. If you're in the woods, and you see a bear and her cub, and you go and try to snatch the cub, you know the mama bear is gonna fuck you upwards. That's what you get.
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Reply #5 posted 07/08/06 4:26am

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PANDURITO said:

meltwithu said:

'should you feel bad for somebody who gets injured doing dumb shit?'

I feel bad for him nod even if voluntarily exposing oneself to a known danger is stupid.
But I can't help feeling bad about the families. That phone call from Spain...
Terrible hrmph

yeah nod he's gonna regret this stupid thing his whole life sad
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Reply #6 posted 07/08/06 9:53am

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Well, I wouldn't feel sorry for him if he had just been injured, because the bull running thing is a pretty stupid thing to do. But the guy may be paralyzed the rest of his life, so yeah I feel bad for him. It'd be pretty harsh to not feel bad for a guy who may be in a wheelchair for the rest of his life.
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