ZombieKitten said:

I haven't. she hinted a couple times that she wanted to see my place but i haven't got around to having her over.

Spats said:

Yknow there was thought behind my response too. How can any person make a move and "jump your bones" when they can't even reach you on the phone? You're harder to track than Osama Bin Laden yet somehow you're expecting sex to happen?

CinisterCee said:

Really. AND he hasn't had her over his house yet. Has he even been to her house? Where is this "big move" shit supposed to happen, in the damn car???

Spats, I think you need to understand the scientific laws of attraction and not try to bend centuries old methods.

The reason your method will never work is because (from a scientific and/or psychological standpoint) women respond to men who take initiative and charge, in a woman's brain it says to her: "this is a strong man, not a weak man, therefore, you are gonna hook up with this dude." Pre-historic women only sought out the strong men to have sex with because she knew her children would have good genes. It's still the same standards today. Although, women today are not intentionally going out looking for baby daddies . . .the psychology behind it will always stay true.

But yes, you can always find the woman who will only want you for sex . . . but this chic you're with is probably under the false impression that you actually respect her, because of the fact that you haven't made a move on her yet and she is probably thinking it's headed for a serious relationship . . . . .poor thing, huh? She has no idea you really are just waiting for her to make the first move . . . .poor thing

4everYoung said:

OMG spats get out now while you still can!!!

4everYoung said:

I guess that's why most women make such bad choices when it comes to men. They need to change their way of choosing men. Their track record isn't very good.

CalhounSq said:

Yes, i have been to her place a couple times. Most of the time we meet somewhere and then go our own way after our dates.

4everYoung said:

that's exactly what i was thinking!! and another reason i believe spats is just plain stoooopid.

fantasyislander said:

She's the one that's stupid if she thinks this is headed for a long term relationship. I have never given that impression. I think the fact that i have been playing hard to get interests the hell out of her because most guys don't do it. Usually it's the woman playing the hard to get game.

CinisterCee said:

Spats said:

but you're forgetting that men and women don't think alike. when a man "plays hard to get" women either think he's not interested and drop him, or if he hasn't "jumped them" they think "wow, this guy must really like me.... he's not just into me for sex!"

fantasyislander said:

Then women need to change their way of thinking.

Spats said:

and i suppose YOU are just the one to make us see our need for this change??

fantasyislander said:

No. But women need to wake up and get into 2006. It's not 1950. It's amazing women are so stuck in the old days.

Spats said:

why do women need to change? i think the whole crappy dating scene needs to change. EVERYONE needs to quit playing games. if you like a girl, tell her. if a girl likes you, she should tell you. if all you're interested in is sacktime, then be honest about it. if all a girl wants is sacktime, she should be honest about it.


of course, i think this is a wonderful plan because i'm absolutely positive that 9 times out of 10..... no, 99 times out of 100, you will get a drink thrown in your face, or punched in the stomach, or slapped across the cheek, or something like that....

and of course, that 1 girl out of 100 who doesn't react like this will be considered a "slut" by you and so you'll have to forego more sacktime in search of another deserving female.


this way, everybody wins!!

fantasyislander said:

Women need to change because they are the ones stil stuck ub the past and playing most of the games. Guys tell women they like them all the time by approaching them in the first place. Most women do not do that.

CinisterCee said:

That will change tommorrow. Either she is gonna return my message or i am gonna have to call and find out what the female drama is all about.

Spats said:

the irony is painful!

mrdespues said:

What do you mean?

fantasyislander said:

*points to spats's most recent reply*

mrdespues said:

I can take the comment seriously unless you explain. Are you saying i have old fashioned views?

Spats said:

hey, think i found a pic of you and one of your buddies on a double-date

mrdespues said:

I think women should approach men instead of letting men do it all and that's caveman thinking? You have got to be kidding.

I've read this whole thread, and I still can't work out if you're gay, Spats.

Spats said:

Oh I know plenty of men who are into the DRAMA-
Don't assume anything about her until you talk to her.
I am sure she has not created as much drama about your situation so far as you have at this point.
The way I see it- women cannot win when it comes to you and your views.
Poor girl!

shanti0608 said:

Women can win with me if they just don't do stuff to annoy me. I am not a monster.

The balls in her court. I left a message for her to call me back. We'll see if she replies.

Spats said:

you're afraid of rejection. that's why you want them to come to you. how can you like other people when you don't like yourself?

purplerein said:

I like myself. What makes you think i don't? Nobody likes rejection. Women don't really know what rejection is because they don't risk their ass like men do. It's not fun. I would rather have the power to do the rejecting.

Spats said:

If you like yourself, you'll go up to women and ask them out instead of waiting for them to come to you. If you believe you have something to offer them, you won't get rejected. stop hating women, and yourself, and move on

Spats said:

That's totally untrue.

Many of them may not be the ones to make the first move, but every woman has been dumped or even worse been used just for sex - and that's the worst kind of rejection of all. Being told that someone isn't into you after you make the first move is nothing compared to someone pretending to like you, using you then rejecting you. This generally happens to women way more than it does to men.

But both sexes get rejected, both know what it feels like.