CarrieMpls said: Spookymuffin said: I am. It's fucking horrible. I shut everything away after it all got so bad, I thought it was all gone - all the problems - but I can feel those fucks climbing back up. That whole worry, that whole self-consciousness. Why the fuck am I the only one experiencing this? Why aren't my friends? oh, honey. LOTS of people experience it. And I must say it's particularly brutal at your age. It gets better over time. It's so true. So many people experience it, but they don't talk about it...and it will get better with time. I promise We're all here to listen when you need to talk, ok? We've all been through it. | |
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Spookymuffin said: CarrieMpls said: First off- good for you, that you're not taking advantage of 15 year old girls you don't care much for. You're being true to yourself and not harming other people. As much as it sucks, you're doing SUCH a good thing for yourself. And as for the rest, I've been in similar places that you are now. And I know how you feel. But there's always gonna be that one thing that you feel like, if I can JUST get this in order, everything else will work themselves out. And that ONE thing is usually the thing we have the least control over. Best thing to do is take inventory of what you DO have control over and make sure you're taking positive steps in those areas. I'd like to say the rest will fall into place, but it isn't always that easy. For me, though, just knowing I'm working on some of the things that are bothering me, helps me get through the shit things that I'm not happy with yet. ya know? And you can talk to me any time. I don't want you hurting yourself. Thanks for the advice Carrie. My problem is that I also can't help but think I do have control over my love-life (hate calling it that); there's another girl - exactly my age - who keeps dropping hints that she wants to fuck me (like asking me if I'm going to London alone, because she is), and I would so gladly fuck her, because she's hot. Unfortunately, she's from a social circle I hate, not into thinking too deep...essentially, she doesn't have a personality I like, and it puts me right off. I dunno - I have focused on everything I have control over, like my body - whose health I have almost become obsessed with (which is why I am so fucking pleased to see you doing what you're doing...I get quite emotional about it it's pathetic). Nail her!!!!! | |
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DiscoballStallion said: Spookymuffin said: Life's weird. This all came up again cause I was shaving myself down there today (my, my it feels good now!) and I noticed how incredibly sexual I am compared to my friends (I blame Prince) - I'm fucking sexual - I'm open about sexuality, open to sexuality and in love with sexual expression. Unfortunately, my social circle and most of England isn't. Therein lies the problem. And those that are, are also (and I hate to say this) usually very ugly and far older than me. I can't help but feel that the girl that gets me, or makes the fucking effort is gonna be in for one helluva ride Even moreso if she isn't as sexual as I am, cause I'll make her. Oh my God...I've found my Gemini Twin. BTW...I need to cut some corners down there. The valley is getting a little thick on the way to the forest...anyway...Here's a lil' tip...when a girl likes you, ignore the HELL out of here. That drives chicks CRAZY. This is true!!!!! I am driving the babe crazy with the hard to get routine. I think she is about to do something. Instead of spending Saturday night with her i went out with my buddies and she found out about it. | |
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Spookymuffin said: CarrieMpls said: But there you are. If you really wanted her, you would have by now. It's SUCH a cliche, but you just haven't met the right girl yet. You will. Waiting for it drives you batty, but when you do you're gonna have a fantastic time. I know Just make sure she is a babe. Don't let your first time be with a ugo. | |
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JPW said: dude, you're 18.
most people don't lose their virginity till 18 or later. just chill, something will happen. if you don't ignore these thigns and just work and go about your way as normal, nothing good will come off it. it's only when we're not trying too hard that good things come our way. the reason is that life DOES have a purpose and something behind it (i am convinced it's not merely a huge machine or automaton) and these are lessons for you... you will grow in time and soon you will simply not care or worry as much, but you'll be having a lot of fun instead if you LEARN HOW TO MAKE YOURSELF HAPPY. you've almost finished school, so your universe is about to get a lot bigger and that means more opportunities, (more lessons too) and ultimately a lot more fun leading to some kind of contentment and getting your head together towards 30, where is where i am now. and trust me dude, you're not a bad lookin' fella, there'll be at least several women to meet you in the next few years. take it from me, you've just jumped in the swimming pool - soon it'll be time to meet all the other fish in the real world... you'll be in for some good times...just have faith in yourself and your HIGHER PURPOSE... all will follow, and i'm not trying to be cliched or cheesy... as the old orger Mr Bliss had in his sig, "follow your bliss"! . [Edited 6/25/06 19:17pm] You are being cliche and cheesy. There is no guarantee he will meet the "right woman" , there are not a lot of top quality, issue free , not annoying women to choose from. | |
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Spats said: JPW said: dude, you're 18.
most people don't lose their virginity till 18 or later. just chill, something will happen. if you don't ignore these thigns and just work and go about your way as normal, nothing good will come off it. it's only when we're not trying too hard that good things come our way. the reason is that life DOES have a purpose and something behind it (i am convinced it's not merely a huge machine or automaton) and these are lessons for you... you will grow in time and soon you will simply not care or worry as much, but you'll be having a lot of fun instead if you LEARN HOW TO MAKE YOURSELF HAPPY. you've almost finished school, so your universe is about to get a lot bigger and that means more opportunities, (more lessons too) and ultimately a lot more fun leading to some kind of contentment and getting your head together towards 30, where is where i am now. and trust me dude, you're not a bad lookin' fella, there'll be at least several women to meet you in the next few years. take it from me, you've just jumped in the swimming pool - soon it'll be time to meet all the other fish in the real world... you'll be in for some good times...just have faith in yourself and your HIGHER PURPOSE... all will follow, and i'm not trying to be cliched or cheesy... as the old orger Mr Bliss had in his sig, "follow your bliss"! . [Edited 6/25/06 19:17pm] You are being cliche and cheesy. There is no guarantee he will meet the "right woman" , there are not a lot of top quality, issue free , not annoying women to choose from. if you were at a party, i and probably a lot of other people, would LAUGH IN YOUR FACE. it is you who is cheesy, compadre... nothing is cheesier than a wanna-be-gigolo with crappy values. . [Edited 6/25/06 22:32pm] | |
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JPW said: Spats said: You are being cliche and cheesy. There is no guarantee he will meet the "right woman" , there are not a lot of top quality, issue free , not annoying women to choose from. if you were at a party, i and probably a lot of other people, would LAUGH IN YOUR FACE. it is you who is cheesy, compadre... nothing is cheesier than a wanna-be-gigolo with crappy values. . [Edited 6/25/06 22:32pm] Fine, live in your dreamworld of happy endings. I will be realistic. Not putting up with Women's crap is not crappy values. | |
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Oh man ... this is like reading about myself. Im 25 .. think Im pretty hideous, people I know go 'nah your good looking, it's just confidence' but Ill only be confident when I think Im good looking.. people who know me have to say that. In any case, someone told me 'learn to accept what you are or change it' so Im changing it and having my face remodelled. It sure is fun shopping for jaw lines and noses.
I think at 18 its hard to see the big picture. So I would never suggest someone young do what Im doing. But now Im 25 I think this is what will work for me. For most people, and hopefully this young cat, things even out and your confidence grows. Ride it out. Was that even advice? Damn Im smooth. haha | |
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delicious said: Oh man ... this is like reading about myself. Im 25 .. think Im pretty hideous, people I know go 'nah your good looking, it's just confidence' but Ill only be confident when I think Im good looking.. people who know me have to say that. In any case, someone told me 'learn to accept what you are or change it' so Im changing it and having my face remodelled. It sure is fun shopping for jaw lines and noses.
I think at 18 its hard to see the big picture. So I would never suggest someone young do what Im doing. But now Im 25 I think this is what will work for me. For most people, and hopefully this young cat, things even out and your confidence grows. Ride it out. Was that even advice? Damn Im smooth. haha Exactly, if you are good looking you'll have confidence. If you are not then it will be hard too. Good look with the surgery. | |
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Spats said: delicious said: Oh man ... this is like reading about myself. Im 25 .. think Im pretty hideous, people I know go 'nah your good looking, it's just confidence' but Ill only be confident when I think Im good looking.. people who know me have to say that. In any case, someone told me 'learn to accept what you are or change it' so Im changing it and having my face remodelled. It sure is fun shopping for jaw lines and noses.
I think at 18 its hard to see the big picture. So I would never suggest someone young do what Im doing. But now Im 25 I think this is what will work for me. For most people, and hopefully this young cat, things even out and your confidence grows. Ride it out. Was that even advice? Damn Im smooth. haha Exactly, if you are good looking you'll have confidence. If you are not then it will be hard too. Good look with the surgery. thanks mate ! Everyone thinks Im a looney but Im happy as a lesbian at a clam buffet. | |
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Spats said: delicious said: Oh man ... this is like reading about myself. Im 25 .. think Im pretty hideous, people I know go 'nah your good looking, it's just confidence' but Ill only be confident when I think Im good looking.. people who know me have to say that. In any case, someone told me 'learn to accept what you are or change it' so Im changing it and having my face remodelled. It sure is fun shopping for jaw lines and noses.
I think at 18 its hard to see the big picture. So I would never suggest someone young do what Im doing. But now Im 25 I think this is what will work for me. For most people, and hopefully this young cat, things even out and your confidence grows. Ride it out. Was that even advice? Damn Im smooth. haha Exactly, if you are good looking you'll have confidence. If you are not then it will be hard too. Good look with the surgery. you're like a robot. i bet you're a republican. | |
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Life is shit because any effort of articulation through language does not correlate in any possible way with the phenomenons of the world. I'm serious, that's where it all stems from. | |
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Life's a bitch and then you die. No Freestyling. | |
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AzurePanther said: Life's a bitch and then you die.
And then you decompose and start to smell. Or start to smell even more, if you're me. | |
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Omadon said: AzurePanther said: Life's a bitch and then you die.
And then you decompose and start to smell. Or start to smell even more, if you're me. No Freestyling. | |
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JPW said: dude, you're 18.
most people don't lose their virginity till 18 or later. just chill, something will happen. Yes but thats simply not true. Most of the people i know hav had sex and quite a while before they were 18 aswell, except the very few, including me. It's not the fact that i am a virgin that bothers me as much as the fact that almost all my friends, and the people i come across, including people who are ugly and or bad people seem to have all done it and i havent, when theres really nothing about me that should seperate me from all those people. Girls just dont seem to like me. It's one of the worst feelings someone can experience. "Man, the living creature, the creating individual, is always more important than any established style or system" - Bruce Lee | |
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Spooky, everything will be alright and sooner rather than later. You're right that at 18 your friends can seem very conservative and pedestrian. But you life is about to change completely. Are you going to uni? If so you'll meet like minded people whose views are more like your own. And no, don't bang the girl who you don't like, you'll hate yourself for it later. There are many girls out there who will be all over you. You're obviously intelligent, good looking, sensitive - what's not to like. Soon you'll have more sex than you can handle.
And yes, it is Prince's fault. But imagine how boring life would have been without his views on sex! | |
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sj1600 said: Spooky, everything will be alright and sooner rather than later. You're right that at 18 your friends can seem very conservative and pedestrian. But you life is about to change completely. Are you going to uni? If so you'll meet like minded people whose views are more like your own. And no, don't bang the girl who you don't like, you'll hate yourself for it later. There are many girls out there who will be all over you. You're obviously intelligent, good looking, sensitive - what's not to like. Soon you'll have more sex than you can handle.
And yes, it is Prince's fault. But imagine how boring life would have been without his views on sex! You are making a mistake guaranteeing this shit for him. There is no guarantee that women will be all over him. Women have proven time and time again that they don't want good guys. Partuicularly in their prime years. And most women are not agressive enough to be all over him. | |
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Spats said: sj1600 said: Spooky, everything will be alright and sooner rather than later. You're right that at 18 your friends can seem very conservative and pedestrian. But you life is about to change completely. Are you going to uni? If so you'll meet like minded people whose views are more like your own. And no, don't bang the girl who you don't like, you'll hate yourself for it later. There are many girls out there who will be all over you. You're obviously intelligent, good looking, sensitive - what's not to like. Soon you'll have more sex than you can handle.
And yes, it is Prince's fault. But imagine how boring life would have been without his views on sex! You are making a mistake guaranteeing this shit for him. There is no guarantee that women will be all over him. Women have proven time and time again that they don't want good guys. Partuicularly in their prime years. And most women are not agressive enough to be all over him. I do have to agree with Spats a bit here. | |
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Ex-Moderator | jerseykrs said: Spats said: You are making a mistake guaranteeing this shit for him. There is no guarantee that women will be all over him. Women have proven time and time again that they don't want good guys. Partuicularly in their prime years. And most women are not agressive enough to be all over him. I do have to agree with Spats a bit here. There's no guarantee, of course there isn't. But the situation can improve (and most likely will) and believing it won't isn't gonna do anyone any good and will become a self-fullfilling prohesy. |
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Ex-Moderator | CarrieMpls said: jerseykrs said: I do have to agree with Spats a bit here. There's no guarantee, of course there isn't. But the situation can improve (and most likely will) and believing it won't isn't gonna do anyone any good and will become a self-fullfilling prohesy. PS - I'm sick of this 'women don't want good guys' BS. It's honestly BS. |
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CarrieMpls said: PS - I'm sick of this 'women don't want good guys' BS. It's honestly BS.
It is. | |
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But you have to start making initiatives yourself. The reason why all the assholes have a woman by their sides is because they live under the misconception that they are enough good for the women they are courting and those women didn't have any better individual to choose from. That or the women themselves are just total crapbags themselves - you wouldn't want that yourself, would you? | |
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CarrieMpls said: CarrieMpls said: There's no guarantee, of course there isn't. But the situation can improve (and most likely will) and believing it won't isn't gonna do anyone any good and will become a self-fullfilling prohesy. PS - I'm sick of this 'women don't want good guys' BS. It's honestly BS. The majority don't. I am not saying it just to be negative about women. I know from experience when i was younger, i know from friends experiences, i currently see it on the dating scene. It's talked about on tv, etc, etc You see women say they want good guys all the time but their actions do not match their words. I did not start getting action with women until i developed an attitude and didn't treat them like they were anything special. In school i was passed over by the pretty girls in favor of the those type all the time. I finally woke up and things turned around for me. | |
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Ex-Moderator | Spats said: CarrieMpls said: PS - I'm sick of this 'women don't want good guys' BS. It's honestly BS. The majority don't. I am not saying it just to be negative about women. I know from experience when i was younger, i know from friends experiences, i currently see it on the dating scene. It's talked about on tv, etc, etc You see women say they want good guys all the time but their actions do not match their words. I did not start getting action with women until i developed an attitude and didn't treat them like they were anything special. In school i was passed over by the pretty girls in favor of the those type all the time. I finally woke up and things turned around for me. If a girl doesn't like a guy because he's 'good' or 'nice' she's not good enough for him anyway. It's a pretty simple equation. It's talked about, but I honestly think it's a cliche. And I'm not saying there aren't women out there like this, especially when they're young, but I can honestly say I don't know one female friend that has turned down a date or broken up with someone because he was too nice or too good. It's bullshit, I'm telling you. |
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Trash attracts trash. It's very simple. And they have never too much trouble finding company for themselves. | |
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CarrieMpls said: Spats said: The majority don't. I am not saying it just to be negative about women. I know from experience when i was younger, i know from friends experiences, i currently see it on the dating scene. It's talked about on tv, etc, etc You see women say they want good guys all the time but their actions do not match their words. I did not start getting action with women until i developed an attitude and didn't treat them like they were anything special. In school i was passed over by the pretty girls in favor of the those type all the time. I finally woke up and things turned around for me. If a girl doesn't like a guy because he's 'good' or 'nice' she's not good enough for him anyway. It's a pretty simple equation. It's talked about, but I honestly think it's a cliche. And I'm not saying there aren't women out there like this, especially when they're young, but I can honestly say I don't know one female friend that has turned down a date or broken up with someone because he was too nice or too good. It's bullshit, I'm telling you. A lot of women look at nice and good as boring. Women like a challenge (i am proving this with the babe) they like drama in their life. Womne LOVE drama. I have seen women make drama out of the smallest things. The only time women seem to finally hook up with the nice guys is when they want to get married and start a family. But by that time tons of good guys have been kicked to the curb and the woman is past her prime. | |
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Ex-Moderator | Spats said: CarrieMpls said: If a girl doesn't like a guy because he's 'good' or 'nice' she's not good enough for him anyway. It's a pretty simple equation. It's talked about, but I honestly think it's a cliche. And I'm not saying there aren't women out there like this, especially when they're young, but I can honestly say I don't know one female friend that has turned down a date or broken up with someone because he was too nice or too good. It's bullshit, I'm telling you. A lot of women look at nice and good as boring. Women like a challenge (i am proving this with the babe) they like drama in their life. Womne LOVE drama. I have seen women make drama out of the smallest things. The only time women seem to finally hook up with the nice guys is when they want to get married and start a family. But by that time tons of good guys have been kicked to the curb and the woman is past her prime. Perhaps the type of women you are attracted to. |
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Ex-Moderator | Novabreaker said: Trash attracts trash. It's very simple. And they have never too much trouble finding company for themselves.
exactly, except I'd maybe put it, like attracts like. |
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CarrieMpls said: Spats said: A lot of women look at nice and good as boring. Women like a challenge (i am proving this with the babe) they like drama in their life. Womne LOVE drama. I have seen women make drama out of the smallest things. The only time women seem to finally hook up with the nice guys is when they want to get married and start a family. But by that time tons of good guys have been kicked to the curb and the woman is past her prime. Perhaps the type of women you are attracted to. No, i am not into drama. It is just very hard to come across women that don't want any drama in their life. | |
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