Spats said:

like talking to a brick wall. only bricks have more creativity and are more interesting...

Spats has four nipples, I bet...

cborgman said:

So strong liberated women can't be hot?

Byron said:

I would go further to suggest six to eight.....

cborgman said:

I do. If most women think that men should have that role. Then they don't want complete equality.

bluesbaby said:

I didn't say all. I said most. Look around it's obvious.

Spats said:

of course they can, i think they are the hottest of women.

but someone who is looking for a strong and liberated woman doesnt list his qualifiers as 'pretty' and 'nice boobies' and spout all the mysogynistic crap you do.

like i said before... any woman intelligent enough to be liberated would see right through you. it isn't that such women are a tiny minority as you seem to suggest, it's that they see you coming a mile away and avoid you.

bluesbaby said:

I am giving you the proof.

cborgman said:

Yes they do. Because looks come into it as well with most people. They are a minority. I am not the one one of realizes this.

Spats said:

give it to me better, cause the only proof you have offered is a bunch of random old school theocratic order stereotypes.

Spats said:

yes, you are!

Spats said:

No, you think "equality" is about choice...the rest of us know that "equality" is about opportunity.

A woman has every opportunity in the world to ask a man out, make the first move, propose, etc...if a woman chooses not to, it doesn't negate that fact. The equality still exists.

However, if laws or customs are in place which deny a woman the opportunity to achieve the exact same things as men do when they do the exact same things, then matters of choice are not an issue, because she has none. You can't have choice if there is no opportunity.

The mere fact that choice exists in the dating world for women proves there is equality...because choice can only exist if opportunity does as well. And "opportunity" is the definition of equality.

cborgman said:

Ask guys in general. Ask women in general. You are purposely avoiding the truth. You know that the majority of the time the guys do all of that.

cborgman said:

I'm BananaCologne.

Spats said:

You said "women" not some, not a few, but "women" which in this case insinuates all. and tell me how it is so obvious. Its not a terrible thing to have kids, either, but God knows you hate that too.

Spats said:

of course loks are PART of it, but it's not the WHOLE of it. i mean, i dont know, i dont know you as a person, but based on all the stuff i have read from you on the org, i honestly believe you couldnt handle a woman who is liberated, because you seem to conform to the 'patriarchy rules' beliefs. you only seem to see women in terms of physical beauty and your own sexual fulfillment, you never speak of intelligence, who they are a person, nothing beyond 'hot' 'plain-jane' 'boobies' and 'pretty'

Byron said:

bingo

Byron said:

Bull. It's hypocritical.

Spats said:

You know what is hypocritical? Doing the same work a man does and getting far less than a man makes.

Spats said:

i know no such thing. most of the women in my life are liberated, and in no way conform to what you are trying to pass off as universal truth. two of the married couple friends in my life, she asked him to marry. and i will be more than willing to find numerous examples to back up what i am saying through google.

Spats said:

You took that response straight from your Spats-Rolodex-O-Asinine-Retorts, didn't you...

BananaCologne said:

and you came to rock?

cborgman said:

I don't like dumb women or mean women either. But they have to be good looking.

Byron said:

now who's avoiding?

Byron said:

It's true. You can give a big response about equality. But women pick and choose what equality they want.

cborgman said:

You were asking me about him, right??..lol

cborgman said:

You won't find many. If you did a universal poll. You would find that men did the asking in dating, marriage, etc. Find the few examples you can but admit it's the minority.

Byron said:

of course

Spats said:

We should have a separate "arguments with spats" -forum.