Byron said:

well, the things that matter to intelligent people. moronic self-obsessed chauvenists on the other hand...

cborgman said:

You are avoiding the fact that women rarely do it. Proving that they don't want equality in all areas. It hurts their cause. It's bullshit.

Spats said:

and you are avoiding the fact that equality is about the much bigger picture (legal rights, voting, pay), not about dating idiots.

Spats said:

Again...clarity and serenity is yours once your intellectual level raises to the point of actually understanding the words you're uttering...

Spats said:

Perhaps, but have you ever taken into consideration that they just don't do it with you? I mean, we can only really talk about our own personal experiences, right?

Byron said:

Interacting with people and hooking up aren't important? One of women's main goals is to get married and push out babies so it must be important to them.

cborgman said:

But it proves they only want equality in certain things.

Spats said:

no wonder you cant comprehend the concept of equality, if you think that is a womans main goal in life.

JustErin said:

Know we don't need to only talk about personal experience. You can go by friends stories and people in general. Ask most guys. They will tell you. They are the ones then end up having to do it.

Spats said:

Um...I don't remember there being any laws, rules, procedures or customs entrenched in our society that keeps women from "hooking up" with pretty much any man she chooses. Where's the obstacles that a woman much overcome to go on a date?...lol...Is there a "glass ceiling" for women when it comes to the number of dates they can go on or something?

cborgman said:

It's is one of most women's main goals. Please don't deny that. Come on.

Spats said:

Why does every thread you post on turn into an argument about women and your issues with them? Go log off and find yourself a prostitute.

Byron said:

You are avoidng the fact they only want equality in certain things.

Spats said:

no, that's just your mysogynistic views clouding reality.

TMPletz said:

I didn't start the thread. Someone else was pointing it out.

Anyone who will really give the concept of equality any proper thought should unfortunately in the end come to the conclusion that there are no valid justifications for it, and seeing inherent value in this desired phenomenon is a mere preference. That however, of course happens to be my own shared preference as well and maybe it could be a bit more consoling fact that there aren't any theoretically backed-up justifications for practices of unequality either. You really can't justify either end, it's all an attempt at interpretation of spoken language at the core. Value systems are without exception like that, and introducing the concept of an equal balance is very foreign to how they actually operate. One individual's singularity has nothing to whatsoever with an other individual's singularity, it's all about accepting common denominators in the social frame that constitutes our roles as representatives of the two named genders.
[Edited 6/23/06 10:26am]

Spats said:

you post some extraordinarily stupid things, but that one has to be the most idiotic one yet.

Spats said:

Ya, I agree with him on this. Most women, not all.

Spats said:

You have no clue what the definition of "equality" is, do you...lol

Byron said:

none whatsoever

Spats said:

and a lot of men think it is something they are supposed to do, as well as are intimidated by women who do make a move, so don't put it all on women here. If you are a woman, then you might have more of an argument, but you aren't.

bluesbaby said:

the funny thing is he asts aas if he is looking for a liberated strong woman who would do such a thing, but listed his qualifiers for dating a woman that she be 'pretty and (something else menial)' the other day.

Spats said:

You keep making these generalized statements that are full of shit. Not all women want to marry. Not all women want children to burst forth from their loins, as you paint the picture. And your respect for childbirth overwhelms me!

cborgman said:

It's not. It's true. Equality in only certain things. The proof is there.

mirrorlove2u said:

i'm sorry, who the fuck are you?

cborgman said:

"boobies" I think

Spats said:

show me the proof...

bluesbaby said:

And most women think men should do it. Including women here. Which goes against them wanting equality.

bluesbaby said:

yes, thank you. that was it.



yea, he really wants a liberated intelligent woman...