Breast makeovers indeed! Allure is the most perverted magazine out there. It's porn. That's why I subscribe.

CaptainChaos said:

Oh ok, I thought you were talking about articles about sex, guys and relationships. The cosmo type crap.

Yes, they have articles about improving your looks...that's all that mag has...superficial stuff.

And that is why I love it.

JustErin said:

Well that's primarily what I meant, the pleasing the man stuff, but I'm not above grasping at the slightest connections to my hypothesis to make a point that I have already forgotten.

Allure should be behind the counter...or wrapped in plastic. It's smut! Wonderful, awesome smut.

I guess one point I am trying to make with this thread, besides the fact that more women need to admit there perversions, is that guy's magazines do not have these same type of articles. Now sure there are T and A mags like FHM and the Sport's Illustrated swimsuit issue is lovely but we don't have been headlines on magazines like "35 Ways to Ring a Women's Bell" or "12 Ways to Last More that 30 Seconds in the Sack" or "27 Ways to Convince 2 Female Acquaintances to Take Part in a Delightful Menage A Trois".

Are guys missing out. Or could it be that women are just bigger pervs who think about sex ALL THE TIME?

CaptainChaos said:

Because there's an emphasis in this culture of women learning to please men, and yet it doesn't go the other way around.

CarrieMpls said:

Damn this sexist culture of ours.

The Captain always pleases the ladies! Well 72.04% of the time anyway.

CaptainChaos said:

Isn't Maxim run by the same people who do Cosmo?

I've read a few Maxims and they are just like Cosmo. Same shit, different target audience.

JustErin said:

The magazine is named after a condom so of course it is going to have articles like that!

But most men's traditional magazine's don't. Most of men's magazines are about fishing or bowling or carpentry or altruistic pursuits like saving the rainforest or adopting baby seals.

JustErin said:

Details too..Details always has crap like that.

sosgemini said:

No. Details is actually a magazine about proper punctuation and Victorian etiquette.

Where are you people getting this stuff?

I am all for magazines that teach women how to be better looking, how to treat men better, to send the right signals. etc,etc.

Spats said:

Oh man, the floodgates are about to open aren't they?

CaptainChaos said:

Lessons need to be taught.

CaptainChaos said:

Man, I remember when Details was all about the NYC club scene. Then they got bought and went corporate. Shame.

Spats said:

How does one get a teaching job in that field? I'm going to go prepare my resume.

CaptainChaos said:

Updated: 6:42 p.m. CT June 21, 2006
First, it was the corset. Now, the fashion industry has brought back skin-tight jeans, disco leotards and 7-inch platforms. And for accessories? Look for corns, bunions, sprained ankles, bruises, yeast infections and chafing.

Yes, for many of us, beauty and pain often walk hand in hand. But how far are we willing to go for fashion? For some, it’s all the way to the emergency room.
Heather Swanson, a 33-year-old photographer from Manhattan, broke a bone and ripped a ligament in her foot while wearing her favorite pair of 5 ½-inch leopard-print platforms. “I would always plan on not walking, but then you end up walking more than you think you will. The night it happened, I was on my feet the whole night.”

Until she tripped. Unfortunately, the taller you are, the harder you fall. Swanson’s injury forced her out of her heels and into a cast for six weeks, but that hardly dissuaded her from giving up heels entirely. Instead, she makes do with 4-inch platforms. “I like to wear heels because I feel more confident and therefore more sexy," she explains. "But I’m writing some of this off to being young and retarded.”

Renate Raymond, another 33-year-old woman, this one from Seattle, developed an abusive fashion relationship with her slimming BodyShaper. “The first time I wore it, I had bruises all over my body where it had cut off my circulation,” she says. “But even with the bruising, I put it right back on so I could look good in my clothes. I’m like a battered wife.”

Thong-induced infections, puncture wounds from underwire bras, tortured toes from stilettos — why do women put up with this stuff?

“We’ve all accepted that there’s agony that goes with looking fashionable and attractive,” says Carly Milne, a Los Angeles-based author who says at least a quarter of her closet causes her pain (a puzzle-piece corset even gave her skin lacerations). “If it makes us feel sexy on the outside, we’re willing to make the sacrifice. All we think about is, ‘Holy cow, do I ever look hot in those Manolos.’”

Julie Fredrickson, editor-in-chief of Coutorture.com, attributes our masochistic relationship with clothing to a style version of Stockholm syndrome.
“The clothes might be torturing you, but you become used to it,” she says. “The heels, the tight skirt, it all becomes a part of your life. They put you in pain, but you think, ‘No, it’s worth it.’”

Suffering for a perceived beauty ideal is hardly new, of course. In China, women endured foot binding to achieve an idealized dainty foot. And up until the 20th century, restricting corsets reigned supreme. But in this era of "The Beauty Myth" and body-positive Web sites like AdiosBarbie.com, haven’t we moved beyond all that?

Yes and no, says Milne.
Redefining beauty takes a really long time,” she says. “And we’re in the process of trying to undo centuries of thinking. People are still wearing binding high heels and corsets, only now it’s not so much a mandatory thing.”
Or is it? A stroll through the newsstand or surf through the channels will produce all sorts of dictatorial “fashion don’ts” and warnings about “What Not to Wear.” Dove’s Campaign for Real Beauty aside, isn’t the media slowing down our sensible-shoed march toward progress?

"It’s too easy to blame it on the media" says Coutorture.com’s Fredrickson. “I’m not sure it’s a cultural thing — there might just be innate forms of beauty that we respond to.” It’s responding to those innate forms — the exaggerated cleavage of the bustier, the curved arch of the high heel — without winding up with bruises or bunion surgery that’s the trick. And in a world where style-makers indulge in haute couture hi-jinks like Glamour’s recent 100-meter Stiletto Run and designers continue to produce women’s clothing based on an hourglass ideal despite the fact that most of our bodies are rectangular or pear-shaped, parsing the fine line between beauty and pain can be as difficult as squeezing into a pair of freshly laundered drainpipe jeans.

What can be done? For some women, like Renee Sedliar, a 35-year-old San Francisco editor who blames a pair of 4-inch red leather sandals for her sprained ankle, it’s a matter of making the tough choice.

“After years of heels, I’ve become almost exclusively dedicated to flats,” she says. “Let’s face it, there’s nothing like walking around in really sexy, fabulous shoes, but if you can’t hide the grimace of pain or oozing blood or swelling toes…”

For others, a common sense approach holds the key.
“The message is not that you should never wear these things, it’s more like have some sense and do it in moderation,” says Dr. Sherry A. Marts of the Society for Women’s Health Research. “If you’re going to have to walk six blocks to go to a club, slip your heels into a tote and wear flats until you get there. And if you’re going to wear a corset, make sure you can still take a deep breath.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13374037/

this thread is too analytical to be in the gd forum...it needs to get moved to p&r.

sosgemini said:

JustErin said:

:::faithfully subscribes to Allure:::

sosgemini said:

You trying to scare some folks away, ain't ya?

sosgemini said:

Yeah, I just wanted to talk about horny ladies. I think I did this wrong.

CalhounSq said:

Serious, long time Allure subscriber here. They are the BESTEREST as far as products go.

That is some perverted shit. I see it all the time at work:
"Is your tongue long enough?"
"What's wrong with your pussy?"
"Titties sagging? Buy THIS magazine"
"Makeovers for ugly people...WITHOUT PLASTIC SURGERY!!!"

There should be a magazine like this for gay men. But oh my GOD there would not be enough room on the cover for all that shit ^ and a picture of Eugen Bauer.

DiscoballStallion said:

Adisa said:

Hey, the truth hurts like the first time. And women buy that shit up though. Admit it. Ya'll like it. And I'm pretty pereverted myself, yet I can't find myself to skim through those magazines.
Something in here smells like balls for real. And it's not me....

CaptainChaos said:

sosgemini said:

So do all sorts of "legitimate" fitness rags like Men's Health.

Chicks are just as perverted as guys; they're just socialized differently. Provide the right stimulation and you'll think she's the subject of a Rick James tune.

As for public behaviour, it takes a strong, strong woman to give The Big Fuck-you to society's conventions in this realm. And other women will kill themselves trying to shame them.

The Id is the same in both genders. Don't believe the hype.

AnotherLoverToo said:

YUP

all women are perverted n horny ... n lawd don't let em get n a group n start talkn they get nasty and if a woman is not perverted n horny then she ain't ever had it done right n there needs to be better magazines for me out there to show em how to make a woman cum