Both sides do have valid points....

Discuss...


http://us.video.aol.com/v...id=1669588

what's that mean?

althom said:

Did you watch the video?

notoriousj said:

No. I don't understand the thread title.

althom said:

You must watch video to understand...

Oprah needs to tell these loser ass hip hop clowns to shut the fuck up already

SUPAsexy said:

I can not believe you put Cube in the catagory of Loser ass hip hop clown

notoriousj said:

I love Cube but if he doesn't get that Oprah doesn't need to bow down and kiss the rap community's testicles, he is clueless.

The bitch and ho rap stereotype is just beyond tired by now. The community needs to be represented with some dignity and not just by a bunch of horny thugs.
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it is a tricky thing to get into

but O has a point...i mean hip hop back in the day was about your skill, how good u were, and what u could do 2 sucker mc's if u held the mic


now its just...lame...
i dont listen 2 hiphop...

SammiJ said:

Hip hop is awesome. It's lame-o rap that totally sucks.

JustErin said:

yeah...
to me rap is the heart of hip hop
and now, its dead.

I dunno maybe its just me...I don't get offended by very much and bitches and hoes and etc...does not bother me...maybe I am just more liberal minded then most people....I dunno...but like I said above I see both sides of the story and to make it clear I love oprah as much as I love Ice Cube and Luda...she is a wonderful women.
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notoriousj said:

When it comes to philanthropy and briging something to the community Oprah whips all their asses. She doesn't owe these guys shit. If anything they need to appologize for the way they have portrayed the community.

SUPAsexy said:

I say have them on and discuss this very topic.

SUPAsexy said:

exactly
informing us about the struggle is one thing
helping to stop so much of the struggle using positivity( )is another

flaunting that you got out and nannernannernaaaaanerrr u got the bling and the hoes fits nowhere in between...

JustErin said:

I like this idea but she doesn't owe them shit.

SUPAsexy said:

It's not really about owing anyone anything. It's about discussing a relevant topic of today.

JustErin said:

The way these guys are going about it, they act like she owes them a response. These jerks don't give a shit how they are portraying their community to those outside it and all of a sudden Oprah needs to give them the time of day?

This comes to mind

SUPAsexy said:

PUBLICITY. That's all this is about. When no one is listening to you go on about yourself or cares, get back into the limelight by talking about someone else that is way more famous.

Kinda like what Jersey is doing in that new Imago thread.

JustErin said:

But I think Oprah and Ice Cube both suck. How bout that?

That was interesting and i definitely understand Oprah's viewpoint. I always feel so torn about this issue

What I think makes it such a touchy topic is that black women have been sexually degraded for centuries and what a lot of these rappers are doing is just carrying on the tradition of reducing the black women to a sexual object who is not meant to be taken seriously. For white women, being seen as sexual was considered liberation, but black women have been the degraded sex object for quite some time and i don't think that hip hop/rap artists using the words bitch and ho so liberally is helping with that any.


that being said, i think that ludacris should feel free to express himself anyway he sees fit and to be respected for it. I don't feel, however, that Oprah should be obligated to put him, or any other artist, on her show is she doesn't want to. It's her damn show, she can do what she wants with it.

JasmineFire said:

Right on sista!

JasmineFire said:

Thank you.

[Mase] Can't nobody take my pride
[Puff] Uh uh, uh uh
[Mase] Can't nobody ho me down... ohh no
I got to keep on movin

AnckSuNamun said:

I FUCKING LOVE MASE.....


Breath, Stretch, Shake, Let it go.....

Oprah's full of it.
Ludacris is whining.
Prince.org has discussed this topic to death.

RipHer2Shreds said:

...but Oprah is a ho

Cube must REALLY wanna be on, it's like he's begging

althom said:

its time we all see althom's avi with a fro.