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Thread started 06/17/06 3:32pm

Number23

Yes, I AM the centre of the universe.



When I was wee, I used to think maybe the universe itself magiced up these self-aware quark collections of skin, blood and bone with the idea of anchoring some of eternity's infinite energy into temporary physical manifestations - with the sole intention of understanding itself.
So then, every living thing's individual perception of its own truth collectively reveals the only truth there is - the one viewed from all possible perspectives in space and time from all things. Mm. Seems simple and it is. Maybe.

Wee example. It gives me a slightly worrying and awe-defining perception of some kind of dizzying, sickening sight behind the creator/dreamer's curtain that if a wookie walks across his living room on the planet Hairy in the galaxy Bollocks 100,000,000 light years away from Earth - for every step he takes towards this gorgeous wee glowing orb so far, far away - our planet ages thousands of years. For every step. And here's the rub. If he walks backwards, far enough, he'd never be aware that planet Earth and its surrounding planetary system has now been cousumed by its supernova sun and created a massive new black hole in the heart of what the tribe 'humans' used to fondly term the Milky Way.

It's a theory, but people far more intelligent and actutely sensitive than I are completely convinced it's exactly how time and space operates. In other words, everything that has, is or ever will happen in the entire universe is happening 'NOW', depending on individual perspective of that word.
Our general concept of 'time', then, doesn't actually exist. Ach, it's just a word. It doesn't really exist, in truth.

So I don't believe anything anymore. Not even that I'm sitting on a comfy seat at the present moment typing away or that I actually even exist. This is, quite probably, just a crippled, blind, and mute human perspective of 'my' reality which is a holographic illusion thrown up by my mind and all our minds.

But I do think that it's a pretty funky philisophical concept that if the universe is indeed infinite - and if you were thrown at an impossible speed kajillions of times faster than the speed of light across the entire spectrum of existence - you would eventually end up looking at yourself from behind.
Fantastically, this then means that everyone is actually placed at the actual centre of the universe. From the individiual's perception of course, trapped inside our flesh and blood vehicles. Everyone is at the centre of it all.

And, as a wee afterthought, string theory is so shaggible. The idea of the universe and all its infinite dimensions existing as just a huge guitar, creating and dreaming up its physical existance using harmonics and frequency. Everything we see, hear and feel is made of nothing but 'invisible' vibrating strings. Maybe.

Ha!

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Reply #1 posted 06/17/06 3:35pm

GaryTheNoTrash
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There is far too much crap to read for your GD audience. This is not P&R lol

Take out 90% of the words and you will get more replies nod
Klopf, klopf!

Wer ist dort?

Unterbrechende Kuh.

Unterbrech...

Muh!!!
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Reply #2 posted 06/17/06 3:38pm

Number23

GaryTheNoTrashCougar said:

There is far too much crap to read for your GD audience. This is not P&R lol

Take out 90% of the words and you will get more replies nod

Ah, but that's why I added a picture of Fabio, to lend my writing some pop culture approachability.
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Reply #3 posted 06/17/06 3:38pm

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Number23 said:

GaryTheNoTrashCougar said:

There is far too much crap to read for your GD audience. This is not P&R lol

Take out 90% of the words and you will get more replies nod

Ah, but that's why I added a picture of Fabio, to lend my writing some pop culture approachability.


LOL! That was an afterthought lol
Klopf, klopf!

Wer ist dort?

Unterbrechende Kuh.

Unterbrech...

Muh!!!
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Reply #4 posted 06/17/06 3:39pm

Number23

GaryTheNoTrashCougar said:

There is far too much crap to read for your GD audience. This is not P&R lol

Take out 90% of the words and you will get more replies nod

And it has fucking nothing to do with politics or religon. smile
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Reply #5 posted 06/17/06 3:41pm

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Number23 said:

GaryTheNoTrashCougar said:

There is far too much crap to read for your GD audience. This is not P&R lol

Take out 90% of the words and you will get more replies nod

And it has fucking nothing to do with politics or religon. smile


Probably not, but I haven't read it lol Put it in Daily Mirror/ The Sun/ News of the World tabloid format and I may give it a scan. It's 11:45pm here, and I got to be at the airport in 4 hours smile
Klopf, klopf!

Wer ist dort?

Unterbrechende Kuh.

Unterbrech...

Muh!!!
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Reply #6 posted 06/17/06 3:42pm

Number23

GaryTheNoTrashCougar said:

Number23 said:


And it has fucking nothing to do with politics or religon. smile


Probably not, but I haven't read it lol Put it in Daily Mirror/ The Sun/ News of the World tabloid format and I may give it a scan. It's 11:45pm here, and I got to be at the airport in 4 hours smile

Believe it or not, I am a tabloid journalist. Thanks for reminding me. sad
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Reply #7 posted 06/17/06 3:50pm

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Number23 said:

GaryTheNoTrashCougar said:



Probably not, but I haven't read it lol Put it in Daily Mirror/ The Sun/ News of the World tabloid format and I may give it a scan. It's 11:45pm here, and I got to be at the airport in 4 hours smile

Believe it or not, I am a tabloid journalist. Thanks for reminding me. sad


REALLY?! Not a Murdoch paper I hope smile
Klopf, klopf!

Wer ist dort?

Unterbrechende Kuh.

Unterbrech...

Muh!!!
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Reply #8 posted 06/17/06 3:51pm

Number23

GaryTheNoTrashCougar said:

Number23 said:


Believe it or not, I am a tabloid journalist. Thanks for reminding me. sad


REALLY?! Not a Murdoch paper I hope smile

No, but I'll still burn in hell.
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Reply #9 posted 06/17/06 3:54pm

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Number23 said:

GaryTheNoTrashCougar said:



REALLY?! Not a Murdoch paper I hope smile

No, but I'll still burn in hell.


Hell's full. Better luck next time biggrin
Klopf, klopf!

Wer ist dort?

Unterbrechende Kuh.

Unterbrech...

Muh!!!
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Reply #10 posted 06/17/06 8:12pm

JPW

Good stuff.

Yeah string theory is amazing.

I don't understand how you are apparently such a nihilist when you're interested in this stuff. Surely you're at least agnostic?

It seems to me that miraculousness is the main building block of the universe... what we experience as (to some eyes) non-miraculous is but a very small part.

Atheism is FAR too simple and leaves out so much of the obvious magic which science will NEVER explain.

So yeah, amazing stuff ... to me the most amazing scientific discoveries simply nod towards the presence of God.. I don't understand why so many view it all through an automaton perspective.... SELF-SUFFICIENCY is the biggest illusion of them all.
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Reply #11 posted 06/17/06 9:16pm

Novabreaker

confused
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Reply #12 posted 06/17/06 10:14pm

Illustrator

String theory kicks ass, maan!
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Reply #13 posted 06/18/06 3:10am

Number23

JPW said:

Good stuff.

Yeah string theory is amazing.

I don't understand how you are apparently such a nihilist when you're interested in this stuff. Surely you're at least agnostic?

It seems to me that miraculousness is the main building block of the universe... what we experience as (to some eyes) non-miraculous is but a very small part.

Atheism is FAR too simple and leaves out so much of the obvious magic which science will NEVER explain.

So yeah, amazing stuff ... to me the most amazing scientific discoveries simply nod towards the presence of God.. I don't understand why so many view it all through an automaton perspective.... SELF-SUFFICIENCY is the biggest illusion of them all.

Nilihist? Everything I do is done with the sole intention of viewing various perspectives of reality from varying states of conciousness, man. smile I'm not on self destruct. I quite like this body, heart and mind. I want to live long enough so I can molest nursing home nurses withour fear of prosecution.
Labels are ludicrious, but if I prescribe to anything manmade it's a pinch of Taoism with a small bite of the more philisophical concepts of Scientology.
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Reply #14 posted 06/18/06 3:10am

Number23

Novabreaker said:

confused

confused
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Reply #15 posted 06/18/06 3:11am

Number23

Illustrator said:

String theory kicks ass, maan!

But it's just a theory. Babies might be fully formed in the heads of sperm, I've never looked through a microscope. smile
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Reply #16 posted 06/18/06 3:13am

ZombieKitten

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String theory kicks ass, maan!

string string string string
everybody loves string
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Reply #17 posted 06/18/06 3:14am

Whateva

Number23 said:

Novabreaker said:

confused

confused


ad boxed confused
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Reply #18 posted 06/18/06 3:15am

Whateva

ZombieKitten said:

Illustrator said:

String theory kicks ass, maan!

string string string string
everybody loves string


Ow it's about strings
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Reply #19 posted 06/18/06 3:51am

Illustrator

Number23 said:

Illustrator said:

String theory kicks ass, maan!

But it's just a theory. Babies might be fully formed in the heads of sperm, I've never looked through a microscope. smile

But that's why it's so cool.
It, along with the theory of relativity theorizes what reality is, based on our limited senses.
Both theories reminds us that when we try to look as deeply as we can into reality, we will always be limited by our ability to only percieve it on a 3-dimensional level.
Once we try to comprehend any thing passed those 3-dimensional levels, we will go into concepts & laws that our thought-processes will never be able to comprehend.
So that in the end,
all that each of is left with is our own personal perceptions of what that reality is.
And that perception is what you stated in you initial post.
That, yes, I AM the centre of the universe.
Me! woot!
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Reply #20 posted 06/18/06 5:23am

Fauxie

A very pleasant, creative read. thumbs up!

Sometimes I wish I came to the org for this kind of thing. smile

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Reply #21 posted 06/18/06 7:30am

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ok I have to come back and read this when I'm fully awake. biggrin
In spite of the cost of living, it's still popular.
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Reply #22 posted 06/18/06 7:39am

Spookymuffin

what a load of old cobblers.
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Reply #23 posted 06/18/06 7:59am

gemini13

I love your originality. biggrin
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Reply #24 posted 06/18/06 10:22am

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Number23 said:

JPW said:

Good stuff.

Yeah string theory is amazing.

I don't understand how you are apparently such a nihilist when you're interested in this stuff. Surely you're at least agnostic?

It seems to me that miraculousness is the main building block of the universe... what we experience as (to some eyes) non-miraculous is but a very small part.

Atheism is FAR too simple and leaves out so much of the obvious magic which science will NEVER explain.

So yeah, amazing stuff ... to me the most amazing scientific discoveries simply nod towards the presence of God.. I don't understand why so many view it all through an automaton perspective.... SELF-SUFFICIENCY is the biggest illusion of them all.

Nilihist? Everything I do is done with the sole intention of viewing various perspectives of reality from varying states of conciousness, man. smile I'm not on self destruct. I quite like this body, heart and mind. I want to live long enough so I can molest nursing home nurses withour fear of prosecution.


smile
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Reply #25 posted 06/19/06 3:45am

JPW

Number23 said:

JPW said:

Good stuff.

Yeah string theory is amazing.

I don't understand how you are apparently such a nihilist when you're interested in this stuff. Surely you're at least agnostic?

It seems to me that miraculousness is the main building block of the universe... what we experience as (to some eyes) non-miraculous is but a very small part.

Atheism is FAR too simple and leaves out so much of the obvious magic which science will NEVER explain.

So yeah, amazing stuff ... to me the most amazing scientific discoveries simply nod towards the presence of God.. I don't understand why so many view it all through an automaton perspective.... SELF-SUFFICIENCY is the biggest illusion of them all.

Nilihist? Everything I do is done with the sole intention of viewing various perspectives of reality from varying states of conciousness, man. smile I'm not on self destruct. I quite like this body, heart and mind. I want to live long enough so I can molest nursing home nurses withour fear of prosecution.
Labels are ludicrious, but if I prescribe to anything manmade it's a pinch of Taoism with a small bite of the more philisophical concepts of Scientology.


sorry, i just remember a very "nothing exists, there's no point" kinda comment you made a while back.. no harm meant.

smile
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Reply #26 posted 06/19/06 4:13am

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Number23 said:



When I was wee, I used to think maybe the universe itself magiced up these self-aware quark collections of skin, blood and bone with the idea of anchoring some of eternity's infinite energy into temporary physical manifestations - with the sole intention of understanding itself.
So then, every living thing's individual perception of its own truth collectively reveals the only truth there is - the one viewed from all possible perspectives in space and time from all things. Mm. Seems simple and it is. Maybe.

Wee example. It gives me a slightly worrying and awe-defining perception of some kind of dizzying, sickening sight behind the creator/dreamer's curtain that if a wookie walks across his living room on the planet Hairy in the galaxy Bollocks 100,000,000 light years away from Earth - for every step he takes towards this gorgeous wee glowing orb so far, far away - our planet ages thousands of years. For every step. And here's the rub. If he walks backwards, far enough, he'd never be aware that planet Earth and its surrounding planetary system has now been cousumed by its supernova sun and created a massive new black hole in the heart of what the tribe 'humans' used to fondly term the Milky Way.

It's a theory, but people far more intelligent and actutely sensitive than I are completely convinced it's exactly how time and space operates. In other words, everything that has, is or ever will happen in the entire universe is happening 'NOW', depending on individual perspective of that word.
Our general concept of 'time', then, doesn't actually exist. Ach, it's just a word. It doesn't really exist, in truth.

So I don't believe anything anymore. Not even that I'm sitting on a comfy seat at the present moment typing away or that I actually even exist. This is, quite probably, just a crippled, blind, and mute human perspective of 'my' reality which is a holographic illusion thrown up by my mind and all our minds.

But I do think that it's a pretty funky philisophical concept that if the universe is indeed infinite - and if you were thrown at an impossible speed kajillions of times faster than the speed of light across the entire spectrum of existence - you would eventually end up looking at yourself from behind.
Fantastically, this then means that everyone is actually placed at the actual centre of the universe. From the individiual's perception of course, trapped inside our flesh and blood vehicles. Everyone is at the centre of it all.

And, as a wee afterthought, string theory is so shaggible. The idea of the universe and all its infinite dimensions existing as just a huge guitar, creating and dreaming up its physical existance using harmonics and frequency. Everything we see, hear and feel is made of nothing but 'invisible' vibrating strings. Maybe.

Ha!

confused





you know, i'm feeling a wave of relief, a certain comfort in knowing that all that i ever was or will be, is a mere shadow of your light, a particle in your orbit. biggrin
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Number23

XxAxX said:

Number23 said:



When I was wee, I used to think maybe the universe itself magiced up these self-aware quark collections of skin, blood and bone with the idea of anchoring some of eternity's infinite energy into temporary physical manifestations - with the sole intention of understanding itself.
So then, every living thing's individual perception of its own truth collectively reveals the only truth there is - the one viewed from all possible perspectives in space and time from all things. Mm. Seems simple and it is. Maybe.

Wee example. It gives me a slightly worrying and awe-defining perception of some kind of dizzying, sickening sight behind the creator/dreamer's curtain that if a wookie walks across his living room on the planet Hairy in the galaxy Bollocks 100,000,000 light years away from Earth - for every step he takes towards this gorgeous wee glowing orb so far, far away - our planet ages thousands of years. For every step. And here's the rub. If he walks backwards, far enough, he'd never be aware that planet Earth and its surrounding planetary system has now been cousumed by its supernova sun and created a massive new black hole in the heart of what the tribe 'humans' used to fondly term the Milky Way.

It's a theory, but people far more intelligent and actutely sensitive than I are completely convinced it's exactly how time and space operates. In other words, everything that has, is or ever will happen in the entire universe is happening 'NOW', depending on individual perspective of that word.
Our general concept of 'time', then, doesn't actually exist. Ach, it's just a word. It doesn't really exist, in truth.

So I don't believe anything anymore. Not even that I'm sitting on a comfy seat at the present moment typing away or that I actually even exist. This is, quite probably, just a crippled, blind, and mute human perspective of 'my' reality which is a holographic illusion thrown up by my mind and all our minds.

But I do think that it's a pretty funky philisophical concept that if the universe is indeed infinite - and if you were thrown at an impossible speed kajillions of times faster than the speed of light across the entire spectrum of existence - you would eventually end up looking at yourself from behind.
Fantastically, this then means that everyone is actually placed at the actual centre of the universe. From the individiual's perception of course, trapped inside our flesh and blood vehicles. Everyone is at the centre of it all.

And, as a wee afterthought, string theory is so shaggible. The idea of the universe and all its infinite dimensions existing as just a huge guitar, creating and dreaming up its physical existance using harmonics and frequency. Everything we see, hear and feel is made of nothing but 'invisible' vibrating strings. Maybe.

Ha!

confused





you know, i'm feeling a wave of relief, a certain comfort in knowing that all that i ever was or will be, is a mere shadow of your light, a particle in your orbit. biggrin

Our strings are intertwined like a Chinese rug, pumpkinbum.
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