wow.

I've truly never had this experience. Nor has anyone I've known gone through this, that I"m aware of.

That must be awful.

Well, that's awesome if you haven't and to be honest I seldom have it happen to me as I am a serious Doubting Thomas that tends to see through a lot of people's bullshit.

But what I talked about doesn't even have to be all that horrible. It can be anything from the very serious to the petty: e.g. a girl telling a guy she likes that she also loves sports even though she really hates it. It's all to appear attractive to the person they want to be with, and it's all based on bullshit.
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so i guess if you're dishonest, you'll attract other dishonesty, right?

if we ever hope to make any progress in life, we have to ask ourselves how we have, in adulthood, attracted the bad situations i've found ourselves in... we all too often pull the wool over our own eyes, in the end.

these discussions are great! as i've said before, we have much to learn from spats & guys like him...

so i guess if you're dishonest, you'll attract other dishonesty, right?

if we ever hope to make any progress in life, we have to ask ourselves how we have, in adulthood, attracted the bad situations i've found ourselves in... we all too often pull the wool over our own eyes, in the end.

these discussions are great! as i've said before, we have much to learn from spats & guys like him...

Well, maybe signs do get over looked or maybe some girlz are just wired to pick men who are A-holes. Whatever the case it happens. And I don't think ANYONE.....Hawt or Not chooses to make babies w/a guy who ruins her life!

And like Erin sasid, some people just don't show their TRUE COLORZ till they have the person IN!

Being dishonest about liking sports is not going to hurt anybody! Guys and girls can really load on the sweet talk and bull shit and treat u like a queen 4 years. Then you can marry them and they start beating the FUCK out of you.....Does ANYONE deserve that?????

Did they earn it by saying they like watching the game on Monday nite when they don't?????

I don't think so!

Women have been picking assholes over nice guys for generations. Moms pass it down to duaghters. It's in their nature.

Further more, do u think they woulda married the guy and had babies with him if they saw it coming.....?!?!?

Wih respect and dignity- not like a piece of meat or a toy..
I guess it could be different for different woman.We are all different and have different needs.
Guess you have to have enough respect and patience to find out what the other person needs and wants- a real man does that!

I have a comment about looks-
I was set up a long time ago on a blind date. He was a beach volleyball player- blonde hair, blue eyes- great body. He turned out to be a complete ass in the end. In the beginning- I thought he was gorgeous but the more I got to know him- the uglier he became to me.
So- to me looks aren't everything in the very beginning..a hot guy can turn ugly with his personality.


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Some women do it over and over again, ya know...

Yeah, SOME women. Anyways, Heiress, I usually dig your threads, but on this topic you should be careful not to say anything if you don't know what your talking about.

How do you know I DON'T know what I'm talking about?

Like I said, I have been in an abusive relationship. But I don't blame his sorry self for getting beat up. I let it happen.

Being dishonest about liking sports is not going to hurt anybody! Guys and girls can really load on the sweet talk and bull shit and treat u like a queen 4 years. Then you can marry them and they start beating the FUCK out of you.....Does ANYONE deserve that?????

Did they earn it by saying they like watching the game on Monday nite when they don't?????

I don't think so!

Well, maybe signs do get over looked or maybe some girlz are just wired to pick men who are A-holes. Whatever the case it happens. And I don't think ANYONE.....Hawt or Not chooses to make babies w/a guy who ruins her life!

And like Erin sasid, some people just don't show their TRUE COLORZ till they have the person IN!

That's fine. Have kidz with an abuser, then we'll talk!

This thread is getting to serious for my taste. I come to the org for fun!

Later!

Women have been picking assholes over nice guys for generations. Moms pass it down to duaghters. It's in their nature.

ALL women want a nice guy. The problem is a lot of women (again NOT all) have grown up in a not so constructive for women household and are used to being around men that are toxic. The familiar always wins over the unfamiliar. Sad but true.

I certainly hope you're right about all women wanting a nice guy.. because I really don't want to act out of character (i.e. act like an asshole) in hope of some girl falling for it.... I do realise that I could act more confident, slighty more cocky and with more attitude, but I don't equate that with treating women like shit.... I'm not sure if I'll go lookin' for "hot babes" this weekend, but I guess I'll try something soon.... And regarding your earlier question: No, I'm not rich.... at least not when it comes to money....
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Acting confident has nothing to do with treating a woman like shit.

Confidence is one of the sexiest qualities a person can have.

And if it's a "hot babe" you really want, than don't settle for anything less.

I like them NICE!! No assholes for me. It all comes down to what you want and need- everyone is different. I want someone to treat me like I treat them. Pretty simple..

Some woman like that- to each her own..

ALL women want a nice guy. The problem is a lot of women (again NOT all) have grown up in a not so constructive for women household and are used to being around men that are toxic. The familiar always wins over the unfamiliar. Sad but true.

My dad was an asshole- very toxic, I vowed to myself that I would not follow in my moms foot steps. I promised myself that I would not have a child with someone like my father and put a child through the misery I went through. I deserve to be with a good man- I guess nice is not the proper term.
I decided long ago to break the mold with my family situation- it is important to me to make the world a better place- not to perpetuate the unhappiness of my childhood.
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Yeah, I'm sensing a lil' negativity to "hot babes" on here. If that's what ya want, GO FOR IT! Everyone deserves at least one hottie in their life!

ALL women want a nice guy. The problem is a lot of women (again NOT all) have grown up in a not so constructive for women household and are used to being around men that are toxic. The familiar always wins over the unfamiliar. Sad but true.

I certainly hope you're right about all women wanting a nice guy.. because I really don't want to act out of character (i.e. act like an asshole) in hope of some girl falling for it.... I do realise that I could act more confident, slighty more cocky and with more attitude, but I don't equate that with treating women like shit.... I'm not sure if I'll go lookin' for "hot babes" this weekend, but I guess I'll try something soon.... And regarding your earlier question: No, I'm not rich.... at least not when it comes to money....
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This is true. But the people who fly by on looks sometimes can't help it.....do u think "good lookin'" chics LIKE to get called BARBIE and be reduced to JUST a pretty face!?!?!

HELL NO!

But if that's how the world treats u for so long, that's how you begin to see yourself.....

And on second thought, What is wrong with flying through relying on looks? I'm a little unsure what ur trying to say.....R U saying people w/good looks r only looking 4 other people w/good looks?

And on second thought, What is wrong with flying through relying on looks? I'm a little unsure what ur trying to say.....R U saying people w/good looks r only looking 4 other people w/good looks?