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Printable$107 million in 3 days...superman returns better come in damn close to that or bryan singer is gonnna have a lot of 'splaining to do 
if i was one of the actors in xmen, i'd sign up for the next 5 movies right now. with the exception of ian mckellen, none of the key players have been in a super successful movie in years...shit sign me up! you look better on your facebook page than you do in person  | |
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I went to see the movie last night with my niece and sister and we all really loved it. Although, we didn't stay until after the credits...BUMMER!  | |
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Lammastide said: Dayspring said: dunno why Arclight was a Morlock either, since in the comic she was a Marauder (who helped to slaughter the Morlocks in the Mutant Massacre). hell, i've been reading X-Men for decades, but I didn't know who she was supposed to be until the end when Magneto called her by name and told her what to do. I think originally Omahyrah Mota was written in as Stacy X, the pheromone-producing mutant prostitute -- that's partly why she looked like that. But through script revisions, her character became Arclight. And though she had no speaking part, she ROCKED her showcase scene! Omahyrah has one of the wierdest looks I've ever seen, but along with having a punk band, she's one of the most sought after international fashion models in the industry today. She was named among the 50 most beautiful people in the world by Paper magazine, and though she has a very androgynous look naturally, she can be gorgeously feminine... my boyfriend and i call her "Prick" because she looks like the offspring of Prince + Pink  | |
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Lammastide said: MIGUELGOMEZ said: So Psylocke was kind of like Kitty Pride/Sprite? M Psylocke's wasted presence was one of the biggest disappointments in X3.  And they improvised that walking-through-walls thing for the movie.
In the books, her powers are mostly psionic -- telepathy, precognition, telekinesis (powerful enough to actually manifest as a near-tangible energy -- she often creates a "psychic dagger or sword"). For a short time, though, she gained the power to teleport through shadows, and I think that's what the movie may loosely -- and poorly -- have been hinting at. Also, she was originally Caucasian, but temporarily switched consciousness with a Japanese female ninja character. They definitely didn't do her justice in the movie. [Edited 5/28/06 19:01pm] she's still asian in the books. and the disappearing act they used in the movie is also from the comics from several years ago. she had this thing called the Crimson Dawn (used to treat her because she was on death's door) ... one of the side effects was that she could teleport through shadows. | |
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Lammastide said: Fauxie said: I can understand that. So what's the verdict? Did they get enough right to appease the hardcore fan? I really, really liked it, overall. But there are hardercore fans who'd surely hate the film.... and me for enjoying it. 
[Edited 5/28/06 20:29pm] I'm a hardcore fan and I really liked it a lot. I don't understand these people that expected them to write in the Shi'ar showing up to put Jean on trial  | |
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Lammastide said: Fauxie said: So why don't the film makers stick more accurately to the comics? Would it compromise their film in any way whatsoever? Surely all of geekdom would be behind them, and for us ignorant folk there'd be no difference, just a good film. I dunno, Fauxie. I can only think that in some cases, it's a matter of money or story credibility (...though I know that must seem odd with regard to a superhero movie  ). Psylocke, for example, is a very well-liked character, but her part in the movie was so minor that it didn't justify the costs or the far-out backstory of glowing psychic swords, teleportation in and out of alternate shadow dimensions (although that would have been MAD cool), etc. And if Phoenix, for example, were true to the books, she'd have been flying through outer space engulfed within a fiery bird form, destroying solar systems, etc. That's just too much!
my only real gripe is that there was absolutely NO Phoenix effect. they hinted at it in X2, and i thought that even though it might be far-fetched (since she's not a cosmic entity in the movies) it would have been really satisfying and cool to see the firebird effect. on the other hand, even without it, i think they did a really good job of bringing home the beauty and the terror of Phoenix. the veins and eyes and glowing hair. | |
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Dayspring said: Lammastide said: I think originally Omahyrah Mota was written in as Stacy X, the pheromone-producing mutant prostitute -- that's partly why she looked like that. But through script revisions, her character became Arclight. And though she had no speaking part, she ROCKED her showcase scene! Omahyrah has one of the wierdest looks I've ever seen, but along with having a punk band, she's one of the most sought after international fashion models in the industry today. She was named among the 50 most beautiful people in the world by Paper magazine, and though she has a very androgynous look naturally, she can be gorgeously feminine... my boyfriend and i call her "Prick" because she looks like the offspring of Prince + Pink LOVED her! oh my stars and garters! |
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CarrieMpls said: Dayspring said: my boyfriend and i call her "Prick" because she looks like the offspring of Prince + Pink LOVED her! oh my stars and garters! did you like the movie? | |
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Dayspring said: CarrieMpls said: LOVED her! oh my stars and garters! did you like the movie? Yup! It was fun fun fun! I've never followed the comics much, but I've picked up bits and pieces here and there and I just found the whole thing wholy entertaining. |
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Dayspring said: Lammastide said: I think originally Omahyrah Mota was written in as Stacy X, the pheromone-producing mutant prostitute -- that's partly why she looked like that. But through script revisions, her character became Arclight. And though she had no speaking part, she ROCKED her showcase scene! Omahyrah has one of the wierdest looks I've ever seen, but along with having a punk band, she's one of the most sought after international fashion models in the industry today. She was named among the 50 most beautiful people in the world by Paper magazine, and though she has a very androgynous look naturally, she can be gorgeously feminine... my boyfriend and i call her "Prick" because she looks like the offspring of Prince + Pink
She's still asian in the books. and the disappearing act they used in the movie is also from the comics from several years ago. she had this thing called the Crimson Dawn (used to treat her because she was on death's door) ... one of the side effects was that she could teleport through shadows. Again... it was wack. There are a thousand ways they could've made that teleportation effect more genuine... like maybe not having it happen in a hallway completely devoid of shadow! I confess I'm a little sensitive about this particular effect, because I've been wanting to see a Darkforce mutant onscreen for YEARS! I'd LOVE, for example, to see Darkstar or Cloak! 
Lammastide said: Fauxie said: So why don't the film makers stick more accurately to the comics? Would it compromise their film in any way whatsoever? Surely all of geekdom would be behind them, and for us ignorant folk there'd be no difference, just a good film. I dunno, Fauxie. I can only think that in some cases, it's a matter of money or story credibility (...though I know that must seem odd with regard to a superhero movie ). Psylocke, for example, is a very well-liked character, but her part in the movie was so minor that it didn't justify the costs or the far-out backstory of glowing psychic swords, teleportation in and out of alternate shadow dimensions (although that would have been MAD cool), etc. And if Phoenix, for example, were true to the books, she'd have been flying through outer space engulfed within a fiery bird form, destroying solar systems, etc. That's just too much! my only real gripe is that there was absolutely NO Phoenix effect. they hinted at it in X2, and i thought that even though it might be far-fetched (since she's not a cosmic entity in the movies) it would have been really satisfying and cool to see the firebird effect. on the other hand, even without it, i think they did a really good job of bringing home the beauty and the terror of Phoenix. the veins and eyes and glowing hair. I was bummed about this too -- and they could have done it in SUCH a cool way! Even without a fullblown firebird or trails of fire through the sky, they could have done an ephemeral, ghostly phoenix effect around Jean not unlike the pyrokinetic girl in the movie Hellboy. That would have looked awesome. [Edited 5/29/06 20:29pm] Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
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Dayspring said: jerseykrs said: Regular continuity or Ultimate? I know she was in Ultimate. I think Thanos is dead, same thing with Warlock. Is Thunderbolt still dead? How about Franklin Storm?? some clone of Gwen Stacy showed up last year, i think. No, Gwen is still dead in regular Marvel continuity. She recently died in the Ultimate books as well. She did have a pair of twins that showed up last year, the result of an apparent tryst with Norman Osbourne. The daughter looked just like Gwen, but still wasn't a clone. During the House of M fiasco, Peter's reality was briefly altered so that he had married Gwen and had a child with her. At the end of HoM, the regular Marvel reality was restored. So, in a nutshell, Gwen's still deader than a doornail. 
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jerseykrs said: Dayspring said: nope. Bucky's alive. he's the Winter Soldier now.  Stupid Marvel.  Actually, that story is remarkably good! It sounded stupid to me too, but it is actually one of the best stories Marvel has done in the past few years.
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I've figured out my view on the movies. It's hard to fit in YEARS AND YEARS of storylines into film. That's why the fanboys have such fits with the films. The producers have a difficult task of making an accessible story to everyone. So, I for one, don't go in expecting to leave with the feeling I have after reading an entire 50 issue run of Uncanny. That's what the comics are for in my mind. I would rather just see the great characters on screen. Seeing Beast get busy was fucking great. | |
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Dayspring said: Lammastide said: I really, really liked it, overall. But there are hardercore fans who'd surely hate the film.... and me for enjoying it.
I'm a hardcore fan and I really liked it a lot. I don't understand these people that expected them to write in the Shi'ar showing up to put Jean on trial Me too!
I was INCREDIBLY sceptical going in, as I'd read the early script reviews, and I wasn't certain if Brett Ratner could pull it off. In my opinion, he friggin' SAVED this movie, as he changed some of the bigger bonehead moves they made with the script. I wasn't sure how the deaths/de-powerings in this film were going to work, but they sooooo did! In fact, I argue that they are incredibly true to the source material. Cyclops is never shown dying (and in a comic, if you don't have a body, then they didn't die. Scott has been missing & presumed dead many, many times over the years). Professor X transferred his conciousness to another body, and we all know Jean is never truly dead. Magneto's powers starting to resurface goes to show that the "cure" was temporary at best (and how cool would it be if all the mutants who took the cure wound up getting their powers back in a way that amplified them, or led to secondary mutation? We could finally see Rogue getting her Ms. Marvel powers this way). My only complaints were that we never saw Jean manifest the Phoenix flamebird, and that you could tell in spots that the film was rushed. Several shots I could see the seams on Beast's makeup, and I didn't really buy some of the effects. Oh, and did anyone else see the big-ass spider crawling across Wolvie's arm at one point? Still, these are nit-picks, and overall I think Ratner did the best he could with such a tight schedule. It wasn't a perfect film, but it was a good one. It has the most flaws of any film in this series, but it also has some of the coolest moments. Hell, Shadowcat vs. Juggernaut was worth the price of admission alone!
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jerseykrs said: I've figured out my view on the movies. It's hard to fit in YEARS AND YEARS of storylines into film. That's why the fanboys have such fits with the films. The producers have a difficult task of making an accessible story to everyone. So, I for one, don't go in expecting to leave with the feeling I have after reading an entire 50 issue run of Uncanny. That's what the comics are for in my mind. I would rather just see the great characters on screen. Seeing Beast get busy was fucking great.
Totally agree. It is way more important to get the feel of the books and stay true to the heart of the story and characters. So far, all of the X-Men films have done this quite well. Sure, it deviates from the books here and there, but thematically it is dead on. Oh, and Beast friggin' ruled! Kelsey Grammer was soooo perfectly cast in that role! It made up for my favorite X-Man, Nightcrawler, being absent from this film.
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JediMaster said: jerseykrs said: I've figured out my view on the movies. It's hard to fit in YEARS AND YEARS of storylines into film. That's why the fanboys have such fits with the films. The producers have a difficult task of making an accessible story to everyone. So, I for one, don't go in expecting to leave with the feeling I have after reading an entire 50 issue run of Uncanny. That's what the comics are for in my mind. I would rather just see the great characters on screen. Seeing Beast get busy was fucking great.
Totally agree. It is way more important to get the feel of the books and stay true to the heart of the story and characters. So far, all of the X-Men films have done this quite well. Sure, it deviates from the books here and there, but thematically it is dead on. Oh, and Beast friggin' ruled! Kelsey Grammer was soooo perfectly cast in that role! It made up for my favorite X-Man, Nightcrawler, being absent from this film. Yeah, they could have done ALOT worse in my opinion. Don't butcher the characters, stay relatively close to the books and have fun with it. All in all, I have liked all three movies. I was worried about Frasier pulling of Dr. McCoy, but he landed it. | |
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I just wanted to say that I really enjoyed the film. And yes, the scene in the house was just fantastic.
I did feel a few of the characters were underutilized in the film. Angel, for example, while a gorgeous character he didn't seem to have much point to the film. I may just be wishing we'd have had more scenes of Ben Foster flying shirtless, but I thought he was under-used. Regardless, soo much was jammed into that film that I totally want to see it again in the theater. | |
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endorphin74 said: I just wanted to say that I really enjoyed the film. And yes, the scene in the house was just fantastic.
I did feel a few of the characters were underutilized in the film. Angel, for example, while a gorgeous character he didn't seem to have much point to the film. I may just be wishing we'd have had more scenes of Ben Foster flying shirtless, but I thought he was under-used. Regardless, soo much was jammed into that film that I totally want to see it again in the theater. Yeah, I had no use for Angel. He is actually a cool character, with great backstory, but no way they could fit it in the movie, but they did anyway and just hurried it in. | |
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jerseykrs said: JediMaster said: Totally agree. It is way more important to get the feel of the books and stay true to the heart of the story and characters. So far, all of the X-Men films have done this quite well. Sure, it deviates from the books here and there, but thematically it is dead on. Oh, and Beast friggin' ruled! Kelsey Grammer was soooo perfectly cast in that role! It made up for my favorite X-Man, Nightcrawler, being absent from this film. Yeah, they could have done ALOT worse in my opinion. Don't butcher the characters, stay relatively close to the books and have fun with it. All in all, I have liked all three movies. I was worried about Frasier pulling of Dr. McCoy, but he landed it. Totally. In fact, the original script DID butcher the characters, and Ratner went to great lengths to remove those elements (to give you an idea, the orignal script also had Magneto buying the farm, a silly love story between Storm and Wolverine, and Gambit as a villian!).
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From IMDB.com...
29 May 2006 'X-Men' X-Traordinary at Box Office X-Men: The Last Stand excelled at the box office over the weekend, earning an estimated $107 million over the first three days of the Memorial Day weekend. While most reports indicated that the figure represented the fourth biggest three-day weekend take in history, Daily Variety pointed out that it was actually the second-best Friday-Sunday opening ever, beaten only by the May 2004 debut of Spider-Man II, which took in $115 million. The trade publication noted that Shrek 2, which opened on a Wednesday, and Star Wars: Episode III -- Revenge of the Sith, which opened on a Thursday took in $108 million during their first weekends. (The X-Men sequel could very well exceed the take of those two films if Sunday's actual gross turns out to be higher than $25 million.) The big take surprised box-office analysts, who had expected the film to do less business than the previous X-Men movies, primarily since it had to go head-to-head against The Da Vinci Code -- which opened well above expectations last weekend and had continued to show much strength during the week -- and also against the animated Over the Hedge. Because of the holiday, Sony did not provide a weekend estimate for Code, but Paramount figured that Hedge's fund amounted to $27.3 million.  I wonder if this justifies more installments, or if they'll just capitalize on X-fever with the rumored Wolverine spinnoff and Magneto prequel.
Moreover, I'm not certain I want endless X-men movies. If we get into that, eventually someone's gonna majorly screw up perhaps the most consistent comic book film franchise we've ever seen. (Although, I'd be the first to admit the chance to see derivative team members would be AMAZING!) [Edited 5/30/06 7:42am] Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
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Lammastide said: From IMDB.com...
29 May 2006 'X-Men' X-Traordinary at Box Office X-Men: The Last Stand excelled at the box office over the weekend, earning an estimated $107 million over the first three days of the Memorial Day weekend. While most reports indicated that the figure represented the fourth biggest three-day weekend take in history, Daily Variety pointed out that it was actually the second-best Friday-Sunday opening ever, beaten only by the May 2004 debut of Spider-Man II, which took in $115 million. The trade publication noted that Shrek 2, which opened on a Wednesday, and Star Wars: Episode III -- Revenge of the Sith, which opened on a Thursday took in $108 million during their first weekends. (The X-Men sequel could very well exceed the take of those two films if Sunday's actual gross turns out to be higher than $25 million.) The big take surprised box-office analysts, who had expected the film to do less business than the previous X-Men movies, primarily since it had to go head-to-head against The Da Vinci Code -- which opened well above expectations last weekend and had continued to show much strength during the week -- and also against the animated Over the Hedge. Because of the holiday, Sony did not provide a weekend estimate for Code, but Paramount figured that Hedge's fund amounted to $27.3 million. I wonder if this justifies more installments, or if they'll just capitalize on X-fever with the rumored Wolverine spinnoff and Magneto prequel.So far, Avi Arad is saying that they are going ahead with the Wolverine and Magneto movies, although that could change with Fox realizing that they actually have a popular franchise on their hands (yes, the execs over there are THAT stupid. They honestly didn't know the popularity of these characters, and planned on mothballing the franchise with this film). Personally, I DO want to see a Wolvie spin-off, but I still want an X4. Way too many stories left to tell.
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jerseykrs said: endorphin74 said: I just wanted to say that I really enjoyed the film. And yes, the scene in the house was just fantastic.
I did feel a few of the characters were underutilized in the film. Angel, for example, while a gorgeous character he didn't seem to have much point to the film. I may just be wishing we'd have had more scenes of Ben Foster flying shirtless, but I thought he was under-used. Regardless, soo much was jammed into that film that I totally want to see it again in the theater. Yeah, I had no use for Angel. He is actually a cool character, with great backstory, but no way they could fit it in the movie, but they did anyway and just hurried it in. are we talking about the same Angel? he's always seemed like a waste of space to me (in the comics). WHAT great back-story? | |
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JediMaster said: Lammastide said: From IMDB.com...
29 May 2006 'X-Men' X-Traordinary at Box Office X-Men: The Last Stand excelled at the box office over the weekend, earning an estimated $107 million over the first three days of the Memorial Day weekend. While most reports indicated that the figure represented the fourth biggest three-day weekend take in history, Daily Variety pointed out that it was actually the second-best Friday-Sunday opening ever, beaten only by the May 2004 debut of Spider-Man II, which took in $115 million. The trade publication noted that Shrek 2, which opened on a Wednesday, and Star Wars: Episode III -- Revenge of the Sith, which opened on a Thursday took in $108 million during their first weekends. (The X-Men sequel could very well exceed the take of those two films if Sunday's actual gross turns out to be higher than $25 million.) The big take surprised box-office analysts, who had expected the film to do less business than the previous X-Men movies, primarily since it had to go head-to-head against The Da Vinci Code -- which opened well above expectations last weekend and had continued to show much strength during the week -- and also against the animated Over the Hedge. Because of the holiday, Sony did not provide a weekend estimate for Code, but Paramount figured that Hedge's fund amounted to $27.3 million. I wonder if this justifies more installments, or if they'll just capitalize on X-fever with the rumored Wolverine spinnoff and Magneto prequel.So far, Avi Arad is saying that they are going ahead with the Wolverine and Magneto movies, although that could change with Fox realizing that they actually have a popular franchise on their hands (yes, the execs over there are THAT stupid. They honestly didn't know the popularity of these characters, and planned on mothballing the franchise with this film). Personally, I DO want to see a Wolvie spin-off, but I still want an X4. Way too many stories left to tell. ideas for X4! Days of Future Past. use Cable or Rachel, and have them come back to the wrong past to keep some new villain (Apocalypse, maybe? give Magneto a break, or his own movie) from creating the future they come from.... | |
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Dayspring said: JediMaster said: So far, Avi Arad is saying that they are going ahead with the Wolverine and Magneto movies, although that could change with Fox realizing that they actually have a popular franchise on their hands (yes, the execs over there are THAT stupid. They honestly didn't know the popularity of these characters, and planned on mothballing the franchise with this film). Personally, I DO want to see a Wolvie spin-off, but I still want an X4. Way too many stories left to tell. ideas for X4! Days of Future Past. use Cable or Rachel, and have them come back to the wrong past to keep some new villain (Apocalypse, maybe? give Magneto a break, or his own movie) from creating the future they come from.... Cable, Rachel or Bishop in a "time travel to stop Apocalypse" story would be great! BTW, I really dig your avvie!
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ok...I haven't gotten around to seeing this yet....but judging from the reviews I'd say I defintitely wouldn't be wasting my money. A lot of good reviews about Omahyra too....so that's a plus.  looking for you in the woods tonight Switch FC SW-2874-2863-4789 (Rum&Coke) | |
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I saw it Monday night and was so underwhelmed its not even funny. The worst of the three IMHO. I actually found myself laughing at the melodrama. Unbelivable cheese, what a waste. | |
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AnckSuNamun said: ... A lot of good reviews about Omahyra too....so that's a plus.
Mind you, she has no speaking part, and is only showcased about 45 seconds total in the entire movie, but she really owns her moment. Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
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AnckSuNamun said: ok...I haven't gotten around to seeing this yet....but judging from the reviews I'd say I defintitely wouldn't be wasting my money.
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that show down was goooood, but damn, y did u kill charles ? or did u ?
and in my thoughts there will be another x-men, but inform of these titles : X-FACTOR---NEW MUNANTS--GENERATION X--NEXT GERERATION.....  SOME PEOPLE--THOSE WHO THINK IT'S EVER THEIR PLACE TO CHANGE SOMEONE--WILL FIND NEW "FAULTS" WHEN OLD ONES GET "FIXED".
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Dayspring said: AnckSuNamun said: ok...I haven't gotten around to seeing this yet....but judging from the reviews I'd say I defintitely wouldn't be wasting my money.
like which ones? it's gotten mostly favorable reviews. Re-read the post. That's what Anck is saying. Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
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