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SammiJ

MEDITATION

for those of you that do
what are your little rituals that help you better relax and meditate?
what do you usually meditate about? or is it just to clear your mind?
i burn incense (nag champa or superhit) and rub oils on my pressure spots like my temples and wrists (nag champa oil is so yummy)
i have a cd of mantras chanted in hindu as well cloud9

im in a mood today, hopefully i can start doing my yoga more often again too


so what do you do when you meditate?
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Reply #1 posted 05/24/06 12:44pm

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Reply #3 posted 05/24/06 12:47pm

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I can't do it. sad
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Reply #4 posted 05/24/06 12:48pm

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I can't do it. sad

says who???
why not?
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Reply #5 posted 05/24/06 12:49pm

Anx

i think meditation is a wonderful thing, though i don't necessarily believe that "formal" meditation is necessary as long as you have something that puts you into that mindstate of serenity and inner focus.

for me, it's usually rote tasks that get me into a meditative state. when i have a big, boring, tedious job at work, i can usually make myself enjoy it simply by letting it become a meditative exercise. i do this at home a lot too, for example when i have to file new music into my CD binders...verrry meditative.

and sometimes, when i'm home alone and it's quiet, i can just lie down and meditate, though it's not something i really "prep" myself to do. it's just a process that i think comes naturally to everyone.

i am sure that trained meditation is worlds more healthy and effective... though my little household methods get me through the days.
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Reply #6 posted 05/24/06 12:51pm

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tch

all i need is a comfy pillow and a wall to stare at. and some peace and quiet, which is hard to come by in my neighborhood. lol

i don't sit nearly often enough, and it shows in my P&R posts... confused
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Reply #7 posted 05/24/06 12:51pm

Imago

Well, before this thread is locked due to lack of interest or non participation, I'd like to add a few things:



1) You should do simple breath count meditations until you can control your mind from wandering for at least 15 minutes--this is an imposibly long time if anyone has ever tried it. Paying attenting to your breathing is a good excercise becuase you focus on something that you must do--breath. So you're homing your senses around that one particular necessary excercise. It also teaches you to breat deeply from your diaphram--also important to mediation and posture.

2) One of my favorite things to meditate on is suffering or compassion. It helps me to become less angry with people throughout the day--not easy to do, but worth the effort

3) I aslo used to go to Kadampa Buddhist meditation classes here in Tampa under Kadam Lucy or Kadam Nick--both white folks skilled in the ways of meditation.

I like lighting candles when doing it, but this is only for the hippy effect and neither detracts nor adds to the actual act of meditating.
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Reply #8 posted 05/24/06 12:52pm

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Anx said:

i think meditation is a wonderful thing, though i don't necessarily believe that "formal" meditation is necessary as long as you have something that puts you into that mindstate of serenity and inner focus.

for me, it's usually rote tasks that get me into a meditative state. when i have a big, boring, tedious job at work, i can usually make myself enjoy it simply by letting it become a meditative exercise. i do this at home a lot too, for example when i have to file new music into my CD binders...verrry meditative.

and sometimes, when i'm home alone and it's quiet, i can just lie down and meditate, though it's not something i really "prep" myself to do. it's just a process that i think comes naturally to everyone.

i am sure that trained meditation is worlds more healthy and effective... though my little household methods get me through the days.

i should try that more often nod
im always the type of person that has to prepare myself for it rather than just let it happen @ will
although, the only other time i know it happens is when im creating, i get in this zone, and when im done im so relaxed biggrin

i had a 5 hour drawing class every thursday this past year, on that same day, i would have morning yoga classes...thursdays were my favourite days when i was in school
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Reply #9 posted 05/24/06 12:52pm

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IrresistibleB1tch said:

all i need is a comfy pillow and a wall to stare at. and some peace and quiet, which is hard to come by in my neighborhood. lol

i don't sit nearly often enough, and it shows in my P&R posts... confused

just stare in2 the wall?
hmmm do you find after a while you dont realize what you're staring at because you're so far gone in2 your thoughts?
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Reply #10 posted 05/24/06 12:54pm

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SammiJ said:

INSATIABLE said:

I can't do it. sad

says who???
why not?

Because I fall asleep.

Maybe I could try doing it with a kitten in my shirt or while doing jumping jacks. When do you know you're done? How do you know when to stop? What if there's no way to escape noise? Some people say meditation is concentration, and others say it's clearing your mind of every thought and worry possible. Well, that can't be entirely conceivable. Again, I'd fall asleep.
Oh shit, my hat done fell off
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Reply #11 posted 05/24/06 12:54pm

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SammiJ said:

IrresistibleB1tch said:

all i need is a comfy pillow and a wall to stare at. and some peace and quiet, which is hard to come by in my neighborhood. lol

i don't sit nearly often enough, and it shows in my P&R posts... confused

just stare in2 the wall?
hmmm do you find after a while you dont realize what you're staring at because you're so far gone in2 your thoughts?


yeah, it's kinda like one of those hidden picture things.... except that there's never a picture lol

thoughts definitely come up, no doubt. or music... drives me nuts. but you just bring yourself back around and try again.
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Reply #12 posted 05/24/06 12:55pm

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SammiJ said:

for those of you that do
what are your little rituals that help you better relax and meditate?
what do you usually meditate about? or is it just to clear your mind?
i burn incense (nag champa or superhit) and rub oils on my pressure spots like my temples and wrists (nag champa oil is so yummy)
i have a cd of mantras chanted in hindu as well cloud9

im in a mood today, hopefully i can start doing my yoga more often again too


so what do you do when you meditate?

I have practiced yoga for 18 years....long before it became the 'trendy' thing to do...in the studio with a group, I practice Ivengar yoga in a Bikram atmosphere - now popularly called "Hot Yoga". Never, ever practice in a cool room or outside in a chill...you need the heat to loosen your muscles.

For meditating, I prefer a quiet, darkened room....otherwise I do not have any ritual per se....sometimes I am in the mood for incense, sometimes candles; sometimes my eyes closed, sometimes not; sometimes background sound, sometimes not.

I have been meditating for so long that I can do it almost anywhere - even without anyone knowing it.... a city bus, a busy airport, my office at work. Like anyting else, it takes practice.

hug
Have a good meditation!
"Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive."
Dalai Lama
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Reply #13 posted 05/24/06 12:55pm

Imago

Anx said:

i think meditation is a wonderful thing, though i don't necessarily believe that "formal" meditation is necessary as long as you have something that puts you into that mindstate of serenity and inner focus.

for me, it's usually rote tasks that get me into a meditative state. when i have a big, boring, tedious job at work, i can usually make myself enjoy it simply by letting it become a meditative exercise. i do this at home a lot too, for example when i have to file new music into my CD binders...verrry meditative.

and sometimes, when i'm home alone and it's quiet, i can just lie down and meditate, though it's not something i really "prep" myself to do. it's just a process that i think comes naturally to everyone.

i am sure that trained meditation is worlds more healthy and effective... though my little household methods get me through the days.




Actually, you're very correct in this.
One of the outcomes of meditiation is teaching us to be mindful--to find solace in the turmoil that surrounds us. You can meditate walking to and from the bathroom at your workcenter simply by concentrating on your steps.
You can meditate doing the things Anx described, or doing menial chores. It's called "Stilling the monkey mind"--this helps one accomplish all manner of things they otherwise would place an opinion on--like, lawd, I don't want to do the dishes again. Well, turn that into a meditative excercise, and you'll not only relieve yourself of the stress of having junk lying around, you'll be training your mind at the same time.
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Reply #14 posted 05/24/06 12:56pm

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Imago said:

Well, before this thread is locked due to lack of interest or non participation, I'd like to add a few things:



1) You should do simple breath count meditations until you can control your mind from wandering for at least 15 minutes--this is an imposibly long time if anyone has ever tried it. Paying attenting to your breathing is a good excercise becuase you focus on something that you must do--breath. So you're homing your senses around that one particular necessary excercise. It also teaches you to breat deeply from your diaphram--also important to mediation and posture.

2) One of my favorite things to meditate on is suffering or compassion. It helps me to become less angry with people throughout the day--not easy to do, but worth the effort

3) I aslo used to go to Kadampa Buddhist meditation classes here in Tampa under Kadam Lucy or Kadam Nick--both white folks skilled in the ways of meditation.

I like lighting candles when doing it, but this is only for the hippy effect and neither detracts nor adds to the actual act of meditating.

confused in regards 2 ur first comment. hmph!

as to what u mentioned about the candle, i have some information on candle gazing as a form of meditation
has anyone tried it? i think i might tonight


and yeah, breathing excercises are fun too, my yoga teacher had taught me to breathe in from the belly, then continue upward through the chest and throat, and exhale going down from the throat to the chest to the belly...great way 2 focus nod


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Reply #15 posted 05/24/06 12:57pm

Imago

Another form of meditation, and one I am just now learning to try out is excercise. I'm trying to concentrate on the task at hand and not on my discomfort or pain in trying to achieve desired results.

I'm not very good at it, but I'm trying.
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Reply #16 posted 05/24/06 12:58pm

SammiJ

INSATIABLE said:

SammiJ said:


says who???
why not?

Because I fall asleep.

Maybe I could try doing it with a kitten in my shirt or while doing jumping jacks. When do you know you're done? How do you know when to stop? What if there's no way to escape noise? Some people say meditation is concentration, and others say it's clearing your mind of every thought and worry possible. Well, that can't be entirely conceivable. Again, I'd fall asleep.

having my chanting cd on helps
and suttle smells like nag champa incense nod
if you focus on your breathing, u shouldnt fall asleep too easily nod
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Reply #17 posted 05/24/06 12:58pm

jerseykrs2

It's called Ambien, Xanax and Valium.
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Reply #18 posted 05/24/06 12:59pm

Imago

SammiJ said:

Imago said:

Well, before this thread is locked due to lack of interest or non participation, I'd like to add a few things:



1) You should do simple breath count meditations until you can control your mind from wandering for at least 15 minutes--this is an imposibly long time if anyone has ever tried it. Paying attenting to your breathing is a good excercise becuase you focus on something that you must do--breath. So you're homing your senses around that one particular necessary excercise. It also teaches you to breat deeply from your diaphram--also important to mediation and posture.

2) One of my favorite things to meditate on is suffering or compassion. It helps me to become less angry with people throughout the day--not easy to do, but worth the effort

3) I aslo used to go to Kadampa Buddhist meditation classes here in Tampa under Kadam Lucy or Kadam Nick--both white folks skilled in the ways of meditation.

I like lighting candles when doing it, but this is only for the hippy effect and neither detracts nor adds to the actual act of meditating.

confused in regards 2 ur first comment. hmph!

as to what u mentioned about the candle, i have some information on candle gazing as a form of meditation
has anyone tried it? i think i might tonight


and yeah, breathing excercises are fun too, my yoga teacher had taught me to breathe in from the belly, then continue upward through the chest and throat, and exhale going down from the throat to the chest to the belly...great way 2 focus nod






yoga is very healthy for you.
My only problem with it is that it's influenced by a religion that believs that if you peal away at the layers of yourself, you get to a true self.

This is not possible in my view, becuase once you peal all the layers away, you arrive at nothing--no seperate self. So I look at Yoga as a Mind/Body health program and not so much spiritually.
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Reply #19 posted 05/24/06 1:01pm

SammiJ

Imago said:

Another form of meditation, and one I am just now learning to try out is excercise. I'm trying to concentrate on the task at hand and not on my discomfort or pain in trying to achieve desired results.

I'm not very good at it, but I'm trying.

that would be hard 2 do
some of our yoga positions are so tricky, its hard to remain focused and not fall out of position nod

let us know how it goes thumbs up!
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Reply #20 posted 05/24/06 1:01pm

SammiJ

Imago said:

SammiJ said:


confused in regards 2 ur first comment. hmph!

as to what u mentioned about the candle, i have some information on candle gazing as a form of meditation
has anyone tried it? i think i might tonight


and yeah, breathing excercises are fun too, my yoga teacher had taught me to breathe in from the belly, then continue upward through the chest and throat, and exhale going down from the throat to the chest to the belly...great way 2 focus nod






yoga is very healthy for you.
My only problem with it is that it's influenced by a religion that believs that if you peal away at the layers of yourself, you get to a true self.

This is not possible in my view, becuase once you peal all the layers away, you arrive at nothing--no seperate self. So I look at Yoga as a Mind/Body health program and not so much spiritually.



im not sure what i see it as
but i enjoy it and i always feel beautiful and great after i'm done nod
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Reply #21 posted 05/24/06 1:03pm

SammiJ

cubic61052 said:

SammiJ said:

for those of you that do
what are your little rituals that help you better relax and meditate?
what do you usually meditate about? or is it just to clear your mind?
i burn incense (nag champa or superhit) and rub oils on my pressure spots like my temples and wrists (nag champa oil is so yummy)
i have a cd of mantras chanted in hindu as well cloud9

im in a mood today, hopefully i can start doing my yoga more often again too


so what do you do when you meditate?

I have practiced yoga for 18 years....long before it became the 'trendy' thing to do...in the studio with a group, I practice Ivengar yoga in a Bikram atmosphere - now popularly called "Hot Yoga". Never, ever practice in a cool room or outside in a chill...you need the heat to loosen your muscles.

For meditating, I prefer a quiet, darkened room....otherwise I do not have any ritual per se....sometimes I am in the mood for incense, sometimes candles; sometimes my eyes closed, sometimes not; sometimes background sound, sometimes not.

I have been meditating for so long that I can do it almost anywhere - even without anyone knowing it.... a city bus, a busy airport, my office at work. Like anyting else, it takes practice.

hug
Have a good meditation!

18 years! omg
wow worship that is truly amazing, i hope to keep it up for that long as well nod
i just dont want to pay to do it, i have a mat and i do it at home, but it always is more fun to do it in a studio - again, you need to pay... so im working on keeping it up @ home
once i get back 2 school i'll be able to use the gym there anytime i'd like
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Reply #22 posted 05/24/06 1:04pm

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Because I fall asleep.

Maybe I could try doing it with a kitten in my shirt or while doing jumping jacks. When do you know you're done? How do you know when to stop? What if there's no way to escape noise? Some people say meditation is concentration, and others say it's clearing your mind of every thought and worry possible. Well, that can't be entirely conceivable. Again, I'd fall asleep.

having my chanting cd on helps
and suttle smells like nag champa incense nod
if you focus on your breathing, u shouldnt fall asleep too easily nod

I LOVE the smell of Nag Champa. Can't burn it anymore as I've been working my ass off trying to get my lungs back into shape from allergies.

I'm quite wound up with an oversized amount of negativity from anger, hurt, stress and the like. Exercise keeps it at bay but I bet it'd be good for my body to learn how to relax n' thangs. I'll keep up on this thread and learn apply what I've learned. Can't hurt. Thanks. smile
Oh shit, my hat done fell off
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Reply #23 posted 05/24/06 1:05pm

SammiJ

INSATIABLE said:

SammiJ said:


having my chanting cd on helps
and suttle smells like nag champa incense nod
if you focus on your breathing, u shouldnt fall asleep too easily nod

I LOVE the smell of Nag Champa. Can't burn it anymore as I've been working my ass off trying to get my lungs back into shape from allergies.

I'm quite wound up with an oversized amount of negativity from anger, hurt, stress and the like. Exercise keeps it at bay but I bet it'd be good for my body to learn how to relax n' thangs. I'll keep up on this thread and learn apply what I've learned. Can't hurt. Thanks. smile

i would take imago's advice too
turn your excersing into a meditation practise as well

nod
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Reply #24 posted 05/24/06 1:08pm

SammiJ

something that i've been doing lately too is laying down or sitting up (which ever i feel is comfy @ the time)
and blow bubbles.... shrug
i have a lil jar of bubble mix, and i'll blow bubbles for hours
and i watch ever bubble possible and as they pop, i picture them as problems or thoughts that are plaguing me, when they pop, my thoughts cease...

its actually quite relaxing, dunno if i would totally consider it meditation tho
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Reply #25 posted 05/24/06 1:08pm

Anx

Imago said:

Another form of meditation, and one I am just now learning to try out is excercise. I'm trying to concentrate on the task at hand and not on my discomfort or pain in trying to achieve desired results.

I'm not very good at it, but I'm trying.


Very Taoist of you. I can do this to get rid of a headache or body ache if I'm alone in a very restful situation. I have "thought off" pain simply by isolating it and meditating on it without placing negative value on it. It's hard to explain, but it works. I haven't learned to do this "on the fly", like at the gym or at work.
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Reply #26 posted 05/24/06 1:09pm

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SammiJ said:


i would take imago's advice too
turn your excersing into a meditation practise as well

nod

thumbs up!
Oh shit, my hat done fell off
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Reply #27 posted 05/24/06 1:10pm

SammiJ

Anx said:

Imago said:

Another form of meditation, and one I am just now learning to try out is excercise. I'm trying to concentrate on the task at hand and not on my discomfort or pain in trying to achieve desired results.

I'm not very good at it, but I'm trying.


Very Taoist of you. I can do this to get rid of a headache or body ache if I'm alone in a very restful situation. I have "thought off" pain simply by isolating it and meditating on it without placing negative value on it. It's hard to explain, but it works. I haven't learned to do this "on the fly", like at the gym or at work.

i get what you're saying
kind of acknowledging that it's there and allowing your body to experience it in order for it to correct itself
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Reply #28 posted 05/24/06 1:12pm

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SammiJ said:

cubic61052 said:


I have practiced yoga for 18 years....long before it became the 'trendy' thing to do...in the studio with a group, I practice Ivengar yoga in a Bikram atmosphere - now popularly called "Hot Yoga". Never, ever practice in a cool room or outside in a chill...you need the heat to loosen your muscles.

For meditating, I prefer a quiet, darkened room....otherwise I do not have any ritual per se....sometimes I am in the mood for incense, sometimes candles; sometimes my eyes closed, sometimes not; sometimes background sound, sometimes not.

I have been meditating for so long that I can do it almost anywhere - even without anyone knowing it.... a city bus, a busy airport, my office at work. Like anyting else, it takes practice.

hug
Have a good meditation!

18 years! omg
wow worship that is truly amazing, i hope to keep it up for that long as well nod
i just dont want to pay to do it, i have a mat and i do it at home, but it always is more fun to do it in a studio - again, you need to pay... so im working on keeping it up @ home
once i get back 2 school i'll be able to use the gym there anytime i'd like

The great thing about yoga is once you know it, you can practice alone and with no props/equipment, if necessary. Obviously, a mat helps, but you don't even have to have one.
I do well with the energy surrounding a room full of people practicing yoga, so I do a class and practice at home.
If you are new to it, make sure you are watching your form as well as your back alignment nod
....you can hurt yourself if you are not careful.
"Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive."
Dalai Lama
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Reply #29 posted 05/24/06 1:12pm

Anx

SammiJ said:

Anx said:



Very Taoist of you. I can do this to get rid of a headache or body ache if I'm alone in a very restful situation. I have "thought off" pain simply by isolating it and meditating on it without placing negative value on it. It's hard to explain, but it works. I haven't learned to do this "on the fly", like at the gym or at work.

i get what you're saying
kind of acknowledging that it's there and allowing your body to experience it in order for it to correct itself


yeah. i had a really horrible cramp in my leg once, and after losing a couple of hours of sleep over it, i just chilled out, laid on my back, tried to relax my mind, and thought "okay, what are five words i can use to describe this pain? what color would it be? if it were a person, what would it look like?"

before i knew it, the cramp was gone.
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