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Thread started 05/20/06 11:56am

RebornVirgin

Life's choices. I can't make them.

I'm a sound engineer. In the past few years I've been working in a music recording studio, before that worked on sound for TV and film, and in the past year I've also work as a tech guy for a news agency, editing interviews and doing some graphics for their website.

Now music is what I like, and there's not much of it where I live. It's also one of the toughest places to exist. Either because of constant war, or because the avegare pay doesn't fit the average expenses.

The problem is, I have no legal way to get to the states to work there, even though I have a friend with a studio there, so I could fit right in. Then I have family in Toronto, but to get there, I need to save up a lot of money just to send the visa request. And now a friend of mine contacted me to ask me to come work with him in Europe selling paintings to galleries and shops, though I'm not a people's person, so I can't really see myself as a salesman, even though it's very good money (according to him it's about 5,000 Euros a month).

If I stay where I am, It'll take years until I could accomplish anything, like my own business, or my own clients that would be enough for me to live off.

Somebody please make the decision for me, or else I'll be contemplating this for 5 more years. smile
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Reply #1 posted 05/20/06 12:04pm

ThreadBare

Org note for ya, amigo.
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Reply #2 posted 05/20/06 12:20pm

RebornVirgin

Something important I forgot to mention is that I have no diplomas. Non at all. not even high school. So it'll be very hard getting into high places, even if my skills would fit.
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Reply #3 posted 05/20/06 12:22pm

ThreadBare

My prayer for you and me, on this day, concerning our situations and aspirations:

"A man's gift makes room for him, and brings him before great men."

Proverbs 18:16
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Reply #4 posted 05/20/06 1:13pm

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A step at a time.
Get your high school diploma.
It'll make whatever direction you decide to go easier.
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Reply #5 posted 05/20/06 1:47pm

RebornVirgin

At my age starting school again is not an option. It'll take years till I can get a diploma. Not only I can't pay for it, I don't want to waste so much time without a change in my life.
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Reply #6 posted 05/20/06 2:40pm

notoriousj

You could get married that will get you to the states...they have mail order brides so I am sure they have male order husbands.
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Reply #7 posted 05/20/06 2:42pm

RebornVirgin

notoriousj said:

You could get married that will get you to the states...they have mail order brides so I am sure they have male order husbands.

Yes, though that costs $5k. Not to mention they check up on you, and if they found that it was for green card purposes, they kick you out of the US.
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Reply #8 posted 05/20/06 3:10pm

notoriousj

Ok well that is all I can think of....



How come all of the ideas I come up with are illegal ones confused
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Reply #9 posted 05/20/06 3:13pm

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Have your family sponsor you as a nanny nod


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Reply #10 posted 05/20/06 3:17pm

notoriousj

Since Pres Bush (known to the US as AKA Pres Dumbass) likes Isreal so much, maybe he will let you in for free...call him up wink


Ok seriously let me see what info I can find for you.....hang on...don't go anywhere smile
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Reply #11 posted 05/20/06 3:29pm

RebornVirgin

notoriousj said:

Since Pres Bush (known to the US as AKA Pres Dumbass) likes Isreal so much, maybe he will let you in for free...call him up wink


Ok seriously let me see what info I can find for you.....hang on...don't go anywhere smile

Well, the funny thing is, the US likes Israel so much, but we're one of very few who need a visa just as tourists. Israelis have a very hard time, more than most other countries to get into the US. That's how much the US loves us. sad
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Reply #12 posted 05/20/06 3:29pm

notoriousj

US Government website:

http://www.us.gov/index.shtml


US Embassy In Tel Aviv: Don't know if there is a US Embassy in Jerusalem:

http://telaviv.usembassy....iness.aspx


Hope this helps. smile I know becoming a citizen is a bitch here in the US but its worth it when you get it.... smile
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Reply #13 posted 05/20/06 3:34pm

RebornVirgin

notoriousj said:

US Government website:

http://www.us.gov/index.shtml


US Embassy In Tel Aviv: Don't know if there is a US Embassy in Jerusalem:

http://telaviv.usembassy....iness.aspx


Hope this helps. smile I know becoming a citizen is a bitch here in the US but its worth it when you get it.... smile
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There's none in Jerusalem.
I don't have the credentials to even ask for a visa to the states. not to mention the money.
Only way for me to marry without the trouble is marrying a US citizen somewhere outside of the US, and get in the US already married.
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Reply #14 posted 05/20/06 3:55pm

notoriousj

Don't give up...I am sure there is a way...you just have to try...you could always come on a tourist visa and you would be here and then you can see what you have to do to stay. You could also come let the visa run out and just not leave. Or I could come there we could go to Jamaica get married and live happily ever after...now I know that is NOT what you want razz
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Reply #15 posted 05/20/06 4:03pm

RebornVirgin

notoriousj said:

. Or I could come there we could go to Jamaica get married and live happily ever after...

Let me check the flight schedules, I think I can make it there by Monday.
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Reply #16 posted 05/20/06 4:22pm

notoriousj

RebornVirgin said:

notoriousj said:

. Or I could come there we could go to Jamaica get married and live happily ever after...

Let me check the flight schedules, I think I can make it there by Monday.

lol
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Reply #17 posted 05/20/06 4:38pm

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littlemissG said:

A step at a time.
Get your high school diploma.
It'll make whatever direction you decide to go easier.


If you are that experienced in the business, a diploma means jack shit.. smile
if sexy was a colour it would be red batting eyes
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Reply #18 posted 05/20/06 4:40pm

notoriousj

REDBABY said:

littlemissG said:

A step at a time.
Get your high school diploma.
It'll make whatever direction you decide to go easier.


If you are that experienced in the business, a diploma means jack shit.. smile

Not if you want to live and work in the US...sad but true.
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Reply #19 posted 05/20/06 4:44pm

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notoriousj said:

REDBABY said:



If you are that experienced in the business, a diploma means jack shit.. smile

Not if you want to live and work in the US...sad but true.



Depends really in the contacts you have and the people you know..

nobody is interested in diplomas, degrees etc states or not.. if you have the knowledge/experience/ambition/intuition..

as I say, diploma means jack shiot, in the states or anywhere if you are in a specialised profession.. smile
if sexy was a colour it would be red batting eyes
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Reply #20 posted 05/20/06 4:51pm

notoriousj

REDBABY said:

notoriousj said:


Not if you want to live and work in the US...sad but true.



Depends really in the contacts you have and the people you know..

nobody is interested in diplomas, degrees etc states or not.. if you have the knowledge/experience/ambition/intuition..

as I say, diploma means jack shiot, in the states or anywhere if you are in a specialised profession.. smile




So you are telling me that say someone wants to work at a professional lawyer or doctor in the US but they have no license from wherever they lived, yet if the right contacts were available they would be able to be a lawyer or a doctor...sorry try again.

Having no diploma or degree means you work for minimum wage mind you in the US is 5.15 per hour....which is not a livable wage in the US. Game over thanks for playin I win.
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Reply #21 posted 05/20/06 4:52pm

RebornVirgin

Here in Israel diplomas don't mean much. All the jobs I had to this day didn't ask for anything. I had an interview, and got in. Never once got turned down. But I see all the qualifications they ask for the US and Canada, and it's scary.

Money now is my main issue. since I don't have any, I can't even apply to anything, or move anywhere. Even if I show them all the CDs and all the TV programs I did, I still have to pay money for the visas, and have something to start up with. And right now I don't have that, and can't save, since there's not enough work to save up from.
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Reply #22 posted 05/20/06 4:53pm

notoriousj

Like I said above if you want it bad enough you will find a way to get it...don't give up.
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Reply #23 posted 05/20/06 4:59pm

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notoriousj said:

REDBABY said:




Depends really in the contacts you have and the people you know..

nobody is interested in diplomas, degrees etc states or not.. if you have the knowledge/experience/ambition/intuition..

as I say, diploma means jack shiot, in the states or anywhere if you are in a specialised profession.. smile




So you are telling me that say someone wants to work at a professional lawyer or doctor in the US but they have no license from wherever they lived, yet if the right contacts were available they would be able to be a lawyer or a doctor...sorry try again.

Having no diploma or degree means you work for minimum wage mind you in the US is 5.15 per hour....which is not a livable wage in the US. Game over thanks for playin I win.


No, what I am saying is, I know for a fact that I could come to the states and work for a company, who would sort out my work visa, acommodation etc etc, all paper work, if I am EXPERIENCED in a certain field, that said employer feels comfortable with employing ME more so than average american, diploma or no diploma, he will oversee paperwork etc etc.. If I can provide a better service than said average joe american, he will overlook diplomas etc etc and employ me..

and sorry but I am talking professional careers, not minimum wage jobs.. People who can provide a service to the american industries that maybe americans cant serve themselves
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Reply #24 posted 05/20/06 5:05pm

katt

Sponsorship would be a route to get in hug
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Reply #25 posted 05/20/06 5:07pm

Imago

RebornVirgin said:

Here in Israel diplomas don't mean much. All the jobs I had to this day didn't ask for anything. I had an interview, and got in. Never once got turned down. But I see all the qualifications they ask for the US and Canada, and it's scary.

Money now is my main issue. since I don't have any, I can't even apply to anything, or move anywhere. Even if I show them all the CDs and all the TV programs I did, I still have to pay money for the visas, and have something to start up with. And right now I don't have that, and can't save, since there's not enough work to save up from.


http://www.monster.com

free online applicatiosn. Is read by thousands of American businesses.
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Reply #26 posted 05/20/06 5:07pm

katt

REDBABY said:

notoriousj said:





So you are telling me that say someone wants to work at a professional lawyer or doctor in the US but they have no license from wherever they lived, yet if the right contacts were available they would be able to be a lawyer or a doctor...sorry try again.

Having no diploma or degree means you work for minimum wage mind you in the US is 5.15 per hour....which is not a livable wage in the US. Game over thanks for playin I win.


No, what I am saying is, I know for a fact that I could come to the states and work for a company, who would sort out my work visa, acommodation etc etc, all paper work, if I am EXPERIENCED in a certain field, that said employer feels comfortable with employing ME more so than average american, diploma or no diploma, he will oversee paperwork etc etc.. If I can provide a better service than said average joe american, he will overlook diplomas etc etc and employ me..

and sorry but I am talking professional careers, not minimum wage jobs.. People who can provide a service to the american industries that maybe americans cant serve themselves

nod red i know many who have got in that way.

P.S Dang that blond bird on BB had a huge hissy fit tonight giggle
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Reply #27 posted 05/20/06 5:08pm

notoriousj

REDBABY said:

notoriousj said:





So you are telling me that say someone wants to work at a professional lawyer or doctor in the US but they have no license from wherever they lived, yet if the right contacts were available they would be able to be a lawyer or a doctor...sorry try again.

Having no diploma or degree means you work for minimum wage mind you in the US is 5.15 per hour....which is not a livable wage in the US. Game over thanks for playin I win.


No, what I am saying is, I know for a fact that I could come to the states and work for a company, who would sort out my work visa, acommodation etc etc, all paper work, if I am EXPERIENCED in a certain field, that said employer feels comfortable with employing ME more so than average american, diploma or no diploma, he will oversee paperwork etc etc.. If I can provide a better service than said average joe american, he will overlook diplomas etc etc and employ me..

and sorry but I am talking professional careers, not minimum wage jobs.. People who can provide a service to the american industries that maybe americans cant serve themselves




That is what I was talking about to...my point was that without a diploma of some kind you are more then likely to be working the minimum wage jobs because they are going to hire someone how has the diploma along with the skills. You need to go back and read what I said. rolleyes
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Reply #28 posted 05/20/06 5:08pm

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katt said:

REDBABY said:



No, what I am saying is, I know for a fact that I could come to the states and work for a company, who would sort out my work visa, acommodation etc etc, all paper work, if I am EXPERIENCED in a certain field, that said employer feels comfortable with employing ME more so than average american, diploma or no diploma, he will oversee paperwork etc etc.. If I can provide a better service than said average joe american, he will overlook diplomas etc etc and employ me..

and sorry but I am talking professional careers, not minimum wage jobs.. People who can provide a service to the american industries that maybe americans cant serve themselves

nod red i know many who have got in that way.

P.S Dang that blond bird on BB had a huge hissy fit tonight giggle



lol
if sexy was a colour it would be red batting eyes
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Reply #29 posted 05/20/06 5:11pm

RebornVirgin

The first time in my life anyone has asked me for credentials, or references is when I went to work for an American company here in Israel.
I said: "Why do you want references. I mean, you contacted me though a mutual friend who recommended me. there's your reference" so they said they need something in writing. that's the procedure. I had to get my boss who moved to NY to send them a fax.
My whole life I've had jobs that I got through people who know me. It's going to be difficult doing that in a place where no one knows me. I'd have to prove myself before I get the jobs.
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