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u2prnce said: Nikster said:  Hello, kitty.  | |
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u2prnce said: INSATIABLE said: There's a big bad world outside. It hurts like a sonofabitch but it's fabulous to feel.  Oh shit, my hat done fell off | |
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the magic of Star Wars back in 1977 was also the feeling of the crowded lines to get in, the packed movie house, the fact that it sounded and looked better than anything you got at home or in the next theatre showing Rocky or Annie Hall. The sound effects, the romantic orchestral music, the effects, the connections to real life hair styles/culture, working on your car in your garage, the fact that you don't see the bigwigs/big action in real life so you don't see them in this movie...
it all added up to an experience that caught on like a brush fire. I was crazy, it was better than real life! It was not a movie, it was a cultural event. As long as I am aware of that memory, it doesn't matter what happens now! The amount of people that saw that movie so surpasses the actual number that sees a blockbuster these days, that it should give you a clue as to how much more intense it was back then, more then something now. Gary Kurtz the producer of Star Wars who dropped out after Empire spilled a lot of shit in a recent interview about how Lucas stopped caring about it as art, and looked at it as a cash cow around Return of the Jedi. My art book: http://www.lulu.com/spotl...ecomicskid
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Am I going to buy them? Probably not. Is Lucas going to come after me and gun me down for it? I don't think so.  | |
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u2prnce said: JediMaster said: In many ways it would have been best if Lucas had stuck to his guns and not released the OT on DVD at all, simply holding out until the next format was established. It was pretty clear that the fans didn't want to wait that long. Still, no one is holding a gun to your head, forcing you to buy these. I love this excuse. As long as no one's holding a gun to my head, I guess nothing should ever bother me. Case is so not closed. How is it an excuse? You act as if you are being forced to buy these, and that is simply not the case. You aren't happy with this release? Fine. Don't buy it. MANY times in the past I have refused to buy a film because I wasn't happy with the presentation (I personally won't buy anthing in pan & scan, even if it is the only format available, regardless of how much I love the film). I said myself that I doubt I will buy this release. I personally don't think this is that great of a set, and see no need to plunk down the change for it. I have the same reservations about the presentation that you do, the difference being that it doesn't get me all riled up. You've obviously made up your mind that Lucas is the anti-christ, and you definitely aren't willing to hear any other side to it. You prefer to rant and rave about how Lucas only cares about defiling your childhood memories in the name of cash. Even if that is true, who cares? If you don't want him to take your hard-earned cash, then DON'T BUY THE SET. That is the only way for someone like Lucas to even remotely get the message. 
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TMPletz said: Am I going to buy them? Probably not. Is Lucas going to come after me and gun me down for it? I don't think so.
Exactly. I'm not going to be excommunicated from Star Wars fandom, or have my family tortured by being forced to hear the Ewok song for hours on end if I don't buy this set. Life will go on.
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JediMaster said: TMPletz said: Am I going to buy them? Probably not. Is Lucas going to come after me and gun me down for it? I don't think so.
Exactly. I'm not going to be excommunicated from Star Wars fandom, or have my family tortured by being forced to hear the Ewok song for hours on end if I don't buy this set. Life will go on. Some Star Wars fans have a lot in common with some Prince fans. | |
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well, i have a junky old lo-res TV and i want to see the original movies in vivid CRAP-O-RAMA, just like i remember them.  | |
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OdysseyMiles said: JediMaster said: Exactly. I'm not going to be excommunicated from Star Wars fandom, or have my family tortured by being forced to hear the Ewok song for hours on end if I don't buy this set. Life will go on. Some Star Wars fans have a lot in common with some Prince fans. I was thinking the same thing!
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Anx said: well, i have a junky old lo-res TV and i want to see the original movies in vivid CRAP-O-RAMA, just like i remember them.
It really is better in the SHITE-O-VISION than in the CRAP-O-RAMA.
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JediMaster said: Anx said: well, i have a junky old lo-res TV and i want to see the original movies in vivid CRAP-O-RAMA, just like i remember them.
It really is better in the SHITE-O-VISION than in the CRAP-O-RAMA. my DVD player doesn't like region 2 DVDs, so i can't watch it in SHITE-O-VISION...just plain old american SHIT-O-VISION. | |
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I love the title of this thread.  | |
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I like the title too, but methinks this guy's sense of humor is often misunderstood. Huzzah! | |
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ufoclub said: Gary Kurtz the producer of Star Wars who dropped out after Empire spilled a lot of shit in a recent interview about how Lucas stopped caring about it as art, and looked at it as a cash cow around Return of the Jedi. You can tell too...ewoks, anyone?  | |
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Nikster said: ufoclub said: Gary Kurtz the producer of Star Wars who dropped out after Empire spilled a lot of shit in a recent interview about how Lucas stopped caring about it as art, and looked at it as a cash cow around Return of the Jedi. You can tell too...ewoks, anyone? POOK SCARED OF EWOK! THEY TALL AND ALL BIG WITH BIG HEAD! P o o |/, P o o |\ | |
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I don't know about all that, but his movies suck. oh noes, prince is gonna soo me!!1! | |
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POOK said: Nikster said: You can tell too...ewoks, anyone? THEY TALL AND ALL BIG WITH BIG HEAD! sounds like my dream date..  Space for sale... | |
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The columnist sounds really ... upset.
They're just, um, movies. | |
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ThreadBare said: The columnist sounds really ... upset.
They're just, um, movies. That's what you fail to understand, the 1977 release was NOT just a movie. It's kind of like how "christmas" is NOT simply the religiously accepted date when christ was born... no... Star Wars was an event that changed and shaped modern pop culture. Actually it's fallout has even influenced scientific/technological culture at this point in time. It's watered down vibe has influenced so much design that you use in your everyday life. My art book: http://www.lulu.com/spotl...ecomicskid
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ufoclub said: ThreadBare said: The columnist sounds really ... upset.
They're just, um, movies. That's what you fail to understand, the 1977 release was NOT just a movie. It's kind of like how "christmas" is NOT simply the religiously accepted date when christ was born... no... Star Wars was an event that changed and shaped modern pop culture. Actually it's fallout has even influenced scientific/technological culture at this point in time. It's watered down vibe has influenced so much design that you use in your everyday life. I'm failing to understand what the franchise, yes, has to do with Christmas. 
I'm a "Star Wars" kid. Mind you, I grew up with the movies and knowledge of the 3 then-unfilmed prequels (still remember the moment -- a quarter century ago, at least -- my older cousin told me they were written), played with the Hasbro action figures and the Empire-related Atari 2600 game, I actually own a lightsaber I bought as a gag when the first of the prequels was released, I remember the words "Luke, I am your father" sending chills down my spine when I first heard them, I had the corresponding picture books, etc. But, they're still just movies, perhaps most enjoyed by kids or folks who were kids when "Star Wars" was released. But, they're still just movies. | |
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I haven't liked Star Wars since I was eight, so a big "meh" from me. | |
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ThreadBare said: ufoclub said: That's what you fail to understand, the 1977 release was NOT just a movie. It's kind of like how "christmas" is NOT simply the religiously accepted date when christ was born... no... Star Wars was an event that changed and shaped modern pop culture. Actually it's fallout has even influenced scientific/technological culture at this point in time. It's watered down vibe has influenced so much design that you use in your everyday life. I'm failing to understand what the franchise, yes, has to do with Christmas.
I'm a "Star Wars" kid. Mind you, I grew up with the movies and knowledge of the 3 then-unfilmed prequels (still remember the moment -- a quarter century ago, at least -- my older cousin told me they were written), played with the Hasbro action figures and the Empire-related Atari 2600 game, I actually own a lightsaber I bought as a gag when the first of the prequels was released, I remember the words "Luke, I am your father" sending chills down my spine when I first heard them, I had the corresponding picture books, etc. But, they're still just movies, perhaps most enjoyed by kids or folks who were kids when "Star Wars" was released. But, they're still just movies. "Christmas" is a franchise now. It shapes retail business and cultural behavior/art in ways that have nothing to do idealogically with the story of Christ's birth. Santa was Coca Cola propoganda originally (a norman rockwell painting, if i remember correctly, invented Santa as we know it today). It just caught on as modern mythology. When I saw Star Wars in 1977, the theatre was packed with people of all ages, and most were not children. This movie's word of mouth even made my parents, (Indian immigrants who ran a tightly budgeted household with no extra trimmings) get out of the house to go see it! The movie ran for over a year on it's intitial run alone. There were news anchormen/church leaders quoting it (just to guage the cultural impact, there was even a Christian book published that tried to market their ideology by relating it to this all persuasive Star Wars). It was nominated for 8 Academy awards. It revolutionized the idea of sound design and effects. It had a tie in with a top 40 music hit inspired/linked to it, people (adults) were seeing it over 50 times in the theatre. It also heralded a new era of tie in products. It raised the standards and spawned copycat music, movies, tv shows. It began a cult following, it was even on food! It became a shaping cultural force in everyday life, and spread to all countries that showed western films. It inspired countless filmmakers, and also marked the beginning of a new entertainment/business industry model that is influenced many, seemingly unrelated business to this day. Many of the designers of your phones, cars, kitchen appliances, were influenced by the design aesthetics/philosophy of this film (which employed many young artists from technology and science backgrounds as opposed to old school Hollywood technicians/artists). It connected nerdy technology/scifi elements with "cool" teenage/strong female/sleazyrocknrollplayboy archtypes. Look at marketing for electronic games (which in themselves hit a paradigm shift after this movie), phones, ipods, etc... Star Wars was an optimistic slap in the face of the overriding pessimistic tone of most 70's films which were going through a gritty, realistic, paranoid phase. This was a time of lines around the gas stations, the aftermath of public opinion on Vietnam, the Nixon scandal, etc. Grown people liked the experience of going to the theatre and watching Star Wars more than real life. Personally, I was more affected by the film Close Encounters, but there is no denying the effects of Star Wars beyond the normal scope of a hollywood movie. [Edited 5/20/06 10:52am] My art book: http://www.lulu.com/spotl...ecomicskid
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ufoclub said: ThreadBare said: I'm failing to understand what the franchise, yes, has to do with Christmas.
I'm a "Star Wars" kid. Mind you, I grew up with the movies and knowledge of the 3 then-unfilmed prequels (still remember the moment -- a quarter century ago, at least -- my older cousin told me they were written), played with the Hasbro action figures and the Empire-related Atari 2600 game, I actually own a lightsaber I bought as a gag when the first of the prequels was released, I remember the words "Luke, I am your father" sending chills down my spine when I first heard them, I had the corresponding picture books, etc. But, they're still just movies, perhaps most enjoyed by kids or folks who were kids when "Star Wars" was released. But, they're still just movies. "Christmas" is a franchise now. It shapes retail business and cultural behavior/art in ways that have nothing to do idealogically with the story of Christ's birth. Santa was Coca Cola propoganda originally (a norman rockwell painting, if i remember correctly, invented Santa as we know it today). It just caught on as modern mythology. When I saw Star Wars in 1977, the theatre was packed with people of all ages, and most were not children. This movie's word of mouth even made my parents, (Indian immigrants who ran a tightly budgeted household with no extra trimmings) get out of the house to go see it! The movie ran for over a year on it's intitial run alone. There were news anchormen/church leaders quoting it (just to guage the cultural impact, there was even a Christian book published that tried to market their ideology by relating it to this all persuasive Star Wars). It was nominated for 8 Academy awards. It revolutionized the idea of sound design and effects. It had a tie in with a top 40 music hit inspired/linked to it, people (adults) were seeing it over 50 times in the theatre. It also heralded a new era of tie in products. It raised the standards and spawned copycat music, movies, tv shows. It began a cult following, it was even on food! It became a shaping cultural force in everyday life, and spread to all countries that showed western films. It inspired countless filmmakers, and also marked the beginning of a new entertainment/business industry model that is influenced many, seemingly unrelated business to this day. Many of the designers of your phones, cars, kitchen appliances, were influenced by the design aesthetics/philosophy of this film (which employed many young artists from technology and science backgrounds as opposed to old school Hollywood technicians/artists). It connected nerdy technology/scifi elements with "cool" teenage/strong female/sleazyrocknrollplayboy archtypes. Look at marketing for electronic games (which in themselves hit a paradigm shift after this movie), phones, ipods, etc... Star Wars was an optimistic slap in the face of the overriding pessimistic tone of most 70's films which were going through a gritty, realistic, paranoid phase. This was a time of lines around the gas stations, the aftermath of public opinion on Vietnam, the Nixon scandal, etc. Grown people liked the experience of going to the theatre and watching Star Wars more than real life. Personally, I was more affected by the film Close Encounters, but there is no denying the effects of Star Wars beyond the normal scope of a hollywood movie. [Edited 5/20/06 10:52am] I appreciate your story and the impact the movie and its series have had on your life. Thanks for that. | |
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Uncle George hates 2 admit he's wrong about anything, while always remaining 2 - 3
steps ahead of everyone else... coming up... original trilogy (as is) on DVD. Prequels trilogy BOX-SET (I'm sure that's not too far off) Something to ca$h in on the 30th anniversary of STAR WARS and eventually all 6 films in a MEGA BOX-SET (what format? only GOD and George know)... [Edited 5/23/06 2:54am] | |
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3D format...
Lucas is foaming at the mouth to transfer the films to 3D. Space for sale... | |
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RONNYRON said: Prequels trilogy BOX-SET (I'm sure that's not too far off) Actually, pretty unlikely at this point. It COULD happen, but I wouldn't hold my breath. Something to ca$h in on the 30th anniversary of STAR WARS
Loads of stuff in the works and eventually all 6 films in a MEGA BOX-SET (what format? only GOD and George know)...
At this point, the reason this hasn't seen the light of day is George holding out for the HD format winner. You can bet there WILL be a mega-set of the whole saga once this issue is decided. It's being worked on as we speak.
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sosgemini said: 3D format...
Lucas is foaming at the mouth to transfer the films to 3D. 
Plans keep changing on this one, but yeah. I'd bet on seeing a 3-D release of at least one of the films in the next year or so. Hopefully, this will be an IMAX presentation as well.
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