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Reply #60 posted 05/12/06 11:05am

Romera

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when my wife experienced her first miscarriage...and having to comfort her
I am so sorry. hug
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Reply #61 posted 05/12/06 11:12am

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I think my time of evolution began when my brothers died.

And, everyday it a growth day.. It never ends.
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Reply #62 posted 05/12/06 12:03pm

Romera

sag10 said:

I think my time of evolution began when my brothers died.

And, everyday it a growth day.. It never ends.
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I love you, Yoli.
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Reply #63 posted 05/12/06 12:07pm

Anx

i grew up when i moved to chicago and lived alone for the first time in my life (well, the first time SUCCESSFULLY, but that's another story for another time).

chicago is not the playground that new york city was for me, and when i came here i knew i was coming here to slow down and find some kind of maturity and organization in my life...and it's slowly been coming to me.

also, my mother's declining health has been confronting my sense of adulthood in ways that scare me, because i don't think i'm ready to deal with caretaking for a parent, but i don't really have a lot of choice in the matter.
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Reply #64 posted 05/12/06 12:28pm

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Interesting how the loss of a parent seems to be the most common thread. My thoughts out to everyone who has lost a parent pray hug
2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740
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Reply #65 posted 05/12/06 12:35pm

Romera

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Interesting how the loss of a parent seems to be the most common thread. My thoughts out to everyone who has lost a parent pray hug
hug I lost both by the time I was 24.
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Reply #66 posted 05/12/06 12:37pm

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Answering this question is like answering at what point during the day is it night. Its just a series of life experiences. I cant put my finger on it, but its like one day you wake up and say to yourself, "hey, Im a grown man."

Growing up is being independent. Being able to sustain yourself, by yourself and having the maturity to come to terms with that. I think that we reach a threshold of maturity, but the life lessons that we continue to learn compell us to go forward, reaching a steady state throughout our lives... that is if we're lucky (preparation meeting oppurtunity).
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Reply #67 posted 05/12/06 12:52pm

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Romera said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Interesting how the loss of a parent seems to be the most common thread. My thoughts out to everyone who has lost a parent pray hug
hug I lost both by the time I was 24.

sad I still have both parents and am thankful that I had the opportunity to at least tell my dad I didn't harbor resentment about the past. I did that the day of my cousin's funeral. I still need to sit down and have a heart to heart with him but I'm thankful I had the opportunity to say the little that I did.

I love you baby hug
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Reply #68 posted 05/12/06 12:55pm

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Romera said:

sag10 said:

I think my time of evolution began when my brothers died.

And, everyday it a growth day.. It never ends.
hug

I love you, Yoli.



I love you, too! rose
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Reply #69 posted 05/12/06 2:46pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Interesting how the loss of a parent seems to be the most common thread. My thoughts out to everyone who has lost a parent pray hug

hug
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Reply #70 posted 05/14/06 8:40am

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Just a quick post to say Thank You to everyone who posted on this thread; some very honest and personal comments. I appreciate it.

I would respond properly but I'm using a French laptop - very difficult to write! - but I will reply when I get chance.

But thank you - it's given me things to think about. nod
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Reply #71 posted 05/14/06 11:47am

MIGUELGOMEZ

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Just a quick post to say Thank You to everyone who posted on this thread; some very honest and personal comments. I appreciate it.

I would respond properly but I'm using a French laptop - very difficult to write! - but I will reply when I get chance.

But thank you - it's given me things to think about. nod




French laptop? Is it difficult to write with it 'cause it licks you every time you press the spacebar?


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Reply #72 posted 05/14/06 11:53am

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i'd have to say it was the day i finally forgave my father for committing suicide. forgiveness is a wonderful thing, since makes a huge difference for all parties involved.
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Reply #73 posted 05/14/06 12:04pm

Justin1972UK

You become an adult when the realisation that your parents are flawed, hits you like a truck.
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Reply #74 posted 05/14/06 12:37pm

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Justin1972UK said:

You become an adult when the realisation that your parents are flawed, hits you like a truck.


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Reply #75 posted 05/14/06 7:25pm

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Justin1972UK said:

You become an adult when the realisation that your parents are flawed, hits you like a truck.


Then for me, it was at about age 12.
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Reply #76 posted 05/14/06 7:48pm

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You guys, some of you have had to deal with some really rough stuff. cry


Hm. For me, I think it has been a series of steps. I can remember the first time I really realized that I had the power to hurt my mom's feelings, when I was in kindergarten. I remember when I realized, probably around 15, that grownups couldn't really MAKE me do anything anymore (including finishing high school, which I didn't -- skipped most of it and went to college). More recently, being totally financially independent (which is currently kicking my ass) was relevant. And even more recently, helping my mom recover from surgery. . . it feels like a little glimpse into the caretaking that my parents will need as they age.
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Reply #77 posted 05/14/06 7:53pm

charlottegelin

onenitealone said:

At what point did you 'grow up'?

At what point did you become a man or a woman?

Have you grown up yet?

Was there a specific event?


These'll probably seem like weird questions lol but something I posted yesterday reminded of a few things.


A few weeks back, I went to see the George Michael documentary, 'A Different Story', and - at one point - he discusses the exact moment that he 'grew up'. I can't remember the precise details but I'm pretty sure it was in the week his mother died. sad He described how, overnight, his whole outlook changed and he became a man, so to speak.

Yesterday, I posted something about one of my mates and described her a 'girl'. This 'girl' is 32 in October lol but - even though it's just a phrase - at what point does this become redundant?

I always remember, years ago - when I used to work in this shop - I'd be on the cash desk and some Mum or Dad would come in with their kids and say "Give the money to the man". I'd be, like, '"Where?? Where's this man??!" lurking almost and, of course, they meant me. lol Maybe that says a whole lot more about me, perhaps. smile


So at what point did you grow up?

probably when I squeezed out my first kid. I took him home and it was like wtf have we just done - RESPONSIBILITY! I was 29.
My kids insist I am a girl and my younger sister is a lady falloff I like that razz
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Reply #78 posted 05/14/06 8:39pm

Illustrator

I grew up the day when one of those analogies that grown-ups were always throwing at me finally made sense.

I had never understood what birds & bees had to do with sex.

Then,
I had an experience with a beautiful young honey in which afterwards, required a trip to the campus doctor because my "pecker" was "stinging".

neutral Then I understood.
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Reply #79 posted 05/14/06 9:12pm

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grouphug To everybody who posted about losing a family member/friend. sad
RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you.
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Reply #80 posted 05/14/06 9:13pm

notoriousj

I have not grown up nor will I ever simple as that...I shall remian child like for the rest of my life...hate it or love it. biggrin
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Reply #81 posted 05/14/06 9:14pm

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If you ask my mother, she'll say that I've been an adult since about age 5, since I have a strong independent streak. smile

Seriously... although I can identify various milestones along the way, I see "growing up" as an ongoing process. I think that process continues today, and I don't know when or whether it will end. I'm not even sure that it should end.

With that said, if I have to choose a specific event, it happened on June 5, 1999. That was the day I permanently moved away from my family and became financially self-supporting. I guess it's that independent streak.

Also, I was preparing to start law school at the end of that summer, and unlike my undergraduate education (which my parents paid for), I paid the entire cost of getting my law degree. Or more accurately, I financed it myself... I continue to pay for my J.D. today as I make monthly payments to the company that services my students loans.
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Reply #82 posted 05/14/06 9:18pm

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Judging by the sheer amount of bills i get i must be a grown man. confused
When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading.
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Reply #83 posted 05/14/06 9:20pm

notoriousj

bkw said:

Judging by the sheer amount of bills i get i must be a grown man. confused

that and you can't hold your liquor as well.. wink
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Reply #84 posted 05/15/06 1:50am

Novabreaker

A good, old, trustworhy saying goes "you've finally grown up when you realize you will never get that record deal".
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Reply #85 posted 05/15/06 2:13am

Ocean

Its all the big moments.....signing mortage documents, getting married, having children .....they all make u grow up real quick lol
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Reply #86 posted 05/15/06 2:16am

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MIGUELGOMEZ said:

onenitealone said:

Just a quick post to say Thank You to everyone who posted on this thread; some very honest and personal comments. I appreciate it.

I would respond properly but I'm using a French laptop - very difficult to write! - but I will reply when I get chance.

But thank you - it's given me things to think about. nod




French laptop? Is it difficult to write with it 'cause it licks you every time you press the spacebar?


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Ooh la la - I should request that modification. lol

Nah, my housemate is French so - when I do get access to his laptop - it's really confusing. nuts The keyboard is all over the place! By the time you've written out a response, then try to send it, it's timed out. So I keep them short & sweet. smile
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Reply #87 posted 05/15/06 2:25am

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Justin1972UK said:

You become an adult when the realisation that your parents are flawed, hits you like a truck.



Again, I will come back to the comments already posted in this thread but I think there is some truth in this. nod

I was reading something a while back - I'm not sure if it was here or elsewhere - that, to be honest, seems so simple it's obvious but it sort of hit the nail on the head.

Basically it was talking about forgiveness or understanding your own parents' behaviour and it gave a gentle reminder about how these are individual people, following their own individual paths in life, with their own failed/fulfilled ambitions, getting by in life just the same way everybody does. Okay, they may be married, have kids, whatever, but they're still individual people waking up every day, dealing and figuring out life in the same way everyone does. But, because they are our parents, we almost expect too much of them. We forget they are travelling on the same path that we are. Once you accept that, it's easier to accept their 'faults'. Or understand their behaviour.
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Reply #88 posted 05/15/06 2:27am

onenitealone

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Novabreaker said:

A good, old, trustworhy saying goes "you've finally grown up when you realize you will never get that record deal".



I think there is so much truth in that. lol

Or at least for those harbouring such dreams. nod
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Reply #89 posted 05/15/06 2:33am

HamsterHuey

Beautiful thread. Lots of beautiful remarks.

To me, at 35, I find out I grow up in spurts, it seems. Everytime I think; "I'm an adult now', something happens that put a new perspective on my view on life.

I had a bit of a weird childhood, that made me way more serious as a child as a child should be, so I managed to keep in touch with my inner child. Mind you, not in the same way Michael Jackson has, mmmm'kay?

But my 'growth spurts';

At ten; my father's death.
At thirteen; during bible classes with my old-uncle.
At sixteen; coming out.
At thentythree; saying goodbye to being addicted to stuff.
At twentysix; my bf's death.
At thirtythree; my mother's death.

Death, it seems, is a theme in my growing up.
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