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Reply #90 posted 05/11/06 3:27pm

2the9s

Ulysses -- James Joyce

The Vivisector -- Patrick White

The Sacred Fount -- Henry James

He Knew He Was Right -- Anthony Trollope

Titus Groan -- Mervyn Peake

Vertigo -- WG Sebald

Eimi -- E.E. Cummings

His Master's Voice -- Stanislav Lem

Doctor Faustus -- Thomas Mann

The Chateau -- William Maxwell
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Reply #91 posted 05/11/06 3:28pm

Anx

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slicksight said:

4. A Midsummer Night's Dream -- by William Shakespeare
whose colour is red and whose cadence sorrow;
whose number is four, and four is the number of death.



Julius caesar
hamlet
macbeth
othello
taming of the shrew
as you like it-i've only seen the play



my favorite shakespeare is merry wives of windsor. i don't know why - i love the earth mother monster at the end, and i like how he predated three's company by hundreds of years. lol
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Reply #92 posted 05/11/06 3:29pm

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Anx said:

brownsugar said:



Julius caesar
hamlet
macbeth
othello
taming of the shrew
as you like it-i've only seen the play



my favorite shakespeare is merry wives of windsor. i don't know why - i love the earth mother monster at the end, and i like how he predated three's company by hundreds of years. lol


i never seen or read this one. its on my list. man i got so much shit i have to read lol
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Reply #93 posted 05/11/06 3:42pm

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i never seen or read this one. its on my list. man i got so much shit i have to read lol


rolleyes brick
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Reply #94 posted 05/11/06 3:45pm

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brownsugar said:


i never seen or read this one. its on my list. man i got so much shit i have to read lol


rolleyes brick


i know i know, i gotta get to it lol
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Reply #95 posted 05/11/06 3:46pm

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slicksight said:



rolleyes brick


i know i know, i gotta get to it lol


cry chair
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Reply #96 posted 05/11/06 4:39pm

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2the9s said:

Ulysses -- James Joyce

The Vivisector -- Patrick White

The Sacred Fount -- Henry James

He Knew He Was Right -- Anthony Trollope

Titus Groan -- Mervyn Peake

Vertigo -- WG Sebald

Eimi -- E.E. Cummings

His Master's Voice -- Stanislav Lem

Doctor Faustus -- Thomas Mann

The Chateau -- William Maxwell
rainbow

"...literal people are scary, man
literal people scare me
out there trying to rid the world of its poetry
while getting it wrong fundamentally
down at the church of "look, it says right here, see!" - ani difranco
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Reply #97 posted 05/11/06 4:41pm

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2the9s said:

Ulysses -- James Joyce

The Vivisector -- Patrick White

The Sacred Fount -- Henry James

He Knew He Was Right -- Anthony Trollope

Titus Groan -- Mervyn Peake

Vertigo -- WG Sebald

Eimi -- E.E. Cummings

His Master's Voice -- Stanislav Lem

Doctor Faustus -- Thomas Mann

The Chateau -- William Maxwell



9s, I for the life of me cannot get through Ulysses. What am I missing?

How do I approach this book that mocks me every time I go the bookshelf?

reading
rainbow

"...literal people are scary, man
literal people scare me
out there trying to rid the world of its poetry
while getting it wrong fundamentally
down at the church of "look, it says right here, see!" - ani difranco
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Reply #98 posted 05/11/06 4:55pm

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I've read what must be thousands of books in my life, but it's not always the "best" writing that sticks with me, therefore I'll make my list based upon books I still think about years after reading, characters that somehow became a part of me, some of this may seem trite, so forgive some of my silliness please.

10.The Chesapeake Bay Trilogy ~ Nora Roberts
9.Watchers~ Dean Koontz
8.Notes from Underground~ Fyodor Dostoevsky
7.The Red Tent ~Anita Diamant
6.The Stranger ~Albert Camus
5.Backroads ~ Tawni O'Dell/I Know This Much is True~ Wally Lamb
4.The Great Gatsby ~ F. Scott Fitzgerald
3.Waking The Moon ~ Elizabeth Hand
2.Push ~ Sapphire
1.Catcher in the Rye ~ JD Salinger
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Reply #99 posted 05/11/06 4:58pm

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How can no one list "A Catcher In The Rye"?



I luv ya! You scare me sometimes though! giggle
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Reply #100 posted 05/11/06 5:01pm

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8. Notes from the Underground -- by Fyodor Dostoevsky
whose colour is brown and whose burden anguish;
whose number is eight, and eight is the number of pain.




My liver hurts.
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Reply #101 posted 05/11/06 5:04pm

Anx

'the stranger' is awesome...i love everything i've read by camus. i also love his story 'the plague'...one scene always sticks with me - the man who stands in long lines at a theater, and when he gets to the front, he walks right back to the end of the line and waits all over again. i love that.
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Reply #102 posted 05/11/06 5:04pm

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IstenSzek said:



very true. the only reason i tried hemingway just once more with reading
The Old Man and the Sea was because i had got it together with another 1
of his novels and was bored on a hot summer night and went outside in the
garden to read a bit. for some reason i picked this little book and when
i started reading it (very attentively) it started gnawing on me that it
was such an incredible little book while i had expected it to be just an
other hemingway snoozefest, lol.

that made me reconsider my views on his other books and so i decided to
read them again, one by one, *slowly* and indeed, starting with The Sun
Also Rises, Hemingway started to reveal his true brilliance to me.

i'm so glad i kept on trying.

i think i will have the same experience with Faulkner soon. i just know
that his books are brilliant but i haven't read any one of his books in
the right mindset. i'm usually too hurried when i pick one of his books
up. i should try again this summer when it's too hot to sleep and start
one of his books in late afternoon and just read quietly all through the
night. i love doing that.


If you have any luck with Faulkner, let me know. I've tried a few times in the past and I can't seem to get past the first 50 pages. I started reading The sound and the fury a few years back and it made no sense to me and I gave up. I hate when I start a book and don't finish it. I've only done that a few times, but it pisses me off. I like to finish each book I choose to read, but Faulkner stumped me. smile
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I get Faulkner, but he's just too much work! When I read I want to be taken to another place not feel like I'm studing for a final exam!
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Reply #103 posted 05/11/06 5:06pm

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Anx said:

'the stranger' is awesome...i love everything i've read by camus. i also love his story 'the plague'...one scene always sticks with me - the man who stands in long lines at a theater, and when he gets to the front, he walks right back to the end of the line and waits all over again. i love that.



The first time I read The Stranger as a highschool student I was blown away...everytime I read it I find something new that stands out...he has such an odd view of life that somehow makes sense in the end... I've never read the plague... I think I will now. smile
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Reply #104 posted 05/11/06 5:07pm

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Sure thing. Randomly listed:


1) Black Betty by Walter Mosley
2) The Count of Monte Cristo by Alexandre Dumas
3) A Prayer for Owen Meany by John Irving
4) The Bluest Eye by Toni Morrison
5) Faust by Goethe
6) Go Tell It on the Mountain by Baldwin
7) The Pursuit of Alice Thrift by Elinor Lipman
8) Day of Confession by Allan Folsom
9) Widow for One Year by John Irving
10) A Man in Full by Tom Wolfe
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Reply #105 posted 05/11/06 5:10pm

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Oh and I would have added Hamlet, Death of a Salesman, Raisin in the Sun,
Waiting for Godot, The Glass Menagerie, No Exit,Who's Afraid of Virgina Woolf?, and A Street Car Named Desire...but they are plays not novels. wink
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Reply #106 posted 05/11/06 5:11pm

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ThreadBare said:

Sure thing. Randomly listed:


1) Black Betty by Walter Mosley
2) The Count of Monte Cristo by Alexandre Dumas
3) A Prayer for Owen Meany by John Irving
4) The Bluest Eye by Toni Morrison
5) Faust by Goethe
6) Go Tell It on the Mountain by Baldwin
7) The Pursuit of Alice Thrift by Elinor Lipman
8) Day of Confession by Allan Folsom
9) Widow for One Year by John Irving
10) A Man in Full by Tom Wolfe



I almost put that on my list, A Prayer for Owen Meany is really good too.
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Reply #107 posted 05/11/06 5:12pm

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Arthur Rex by Thomas Berger
The Once and Future King
Star Wars by Alan Dean Foster, but credited to George Lucas (okay he came up with the plotline, so it's co-authored).
Hotel New Hampshire
Ciderhouse Rules
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Reply #108 posted 05/11/06 5:18pm

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Stax said:

IstenSzek said:



it's good isn't it?! although i never quite understood
who or what that 'angel' was that came to the vilage and was
killed or died and was then burried. it was just a few lines
in the entire story but it is one of the most bizarre pasages
and it bothers me still.


I like how nobody in the village is all that surprised to see a dead angel.



I think I'm the only person on Earth that didn't like this book. neutral

Not a big Hemingway fan either. yawn
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Reply #109 posted 05/11/06 6:08pm

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If you have any luck with Faulkner, let me know. I've tried a few times in the past and I can't seem to get past the first 50 pages. I started reading The sound and the fury a few years back and it made no sense to me and I gave up. I hate when I start a book and don't finish it. I've only done that a few times, but it pisses me off. I like to finish each book I choose to read, but Faulkner stumped me. smile
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That's funny. The same thing has happened to me with Faulkner. Same book. I must admit though that I'll stop a book if I'm not feeling it. If I get into it though-- watch out. Oh, and like you Hemingway is probably my favorite author. He and James Baldwin. So here's my list and I see a lot of folks share some of my picks-- great taste. In no particular order:

1. The Sun Also Rises (I also love A Farewell To Arms, For Whom the Bell Tolls, and Old Man and the Sea)-- Hemingway
2. Another Country (or Go Tell it on the mountain)-- James Baldwin
3. The Alchemist-- Paulo Coelho
4. Sophie's World-- Jostein Gaardner
5. War and Peace-- Leo Tolstoy
6. Crime and Punishment-- Dostoyevsky
7. One Hundred Years of Solitude-- Gabriel Garcia Marquez
8. Les Miserables-- Victor Hugo
9. The Wind-up Bird Chronicle-- Haruki Murakami
10. The Great Gatsby-- F. Scott Fitzgerald

Damn. It's hard to leave off 1984, A Clockwork Orange, The Stand, The Talisman, Zorba the Greek, East of Eden, The Count of Monte Cristo, Huckleberry Finn, Catcher in the Rye, Catch 22, Don Quixote, Satanic Verses, The Name of the Rose, Steppenwolf... wink
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Reply #110 posted 05/11/06 6:23pm

2the9s

TheResistor said:

2the9s said:

Ulysses -- James Joyce

The Vivisector -- Patrick White

The Sacred Fount -- Henry James

He Knew He Was Right -- Anthony Trollope

Titus Groan -- Mervyn Peake

Vertigo -- WG Sebald

Eimi -- E.E. Cummings

His Master's Voice -- Stanislav Lem

Doctor Faustus -- Thomas Mann

The Chateau -- William Maxwell



9s, I for the life of me cannot get through Ulysses. What am I missing?

How do I approach this book that mocks me every time I go the bookshelf?

reading


There are a lot of good guides and annotations etc. out there that can help you through the book, though I would recommend staying clear of the annotations and sticking to the guides, especially Harry Blamires' Bloomsday Book, which is basically a plot summary.

Blamires can help you get through the actual reading of the book, though for a book that shows how carefully written and downright fun Ulysses can be read anything Hugh Kenner has written about it, especially Joyce's Voices or his Ulysses (Kenner did a very bold thing giving his own critical study of Joyce's book the same title as the thing he studies.) Kenner is brilliant.

Remember, Ulysses is a book about a guy walking around Dublin while his wife is having an affair with another man. He is aware of this. And his wife is aware that he is aware of this. And then there's Stephen...

I can't believe I left House of Leaves off my top ten, or The Count of Monte Cristo, or Valis!
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Reply #111 posted 05/11/06 6:27pm

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2the9s said:

TheResistor said:




9s, I for the life of me cannot get through Ulysses. What am I missing?

How do I approach this book that mocks me every time I go the bookshelf?

reading


There are a lot of good guides and annotations etc. out there that can help you through the book, though I would recommend staying clear of the annotations and sticking to the guides, especially Harry Blamires' Bloomsday Book, which is basically a plot summary.

Blamires can help you get through the actual reading of the book, though for a book that shows how carefully written and downright fun Ulysses can be read anything Hugh Kenner has written about it, especially Joyce's Voices or his Ulysses (Kenner did a very bold thing giving his own critical study of Joyce's book the same title as the thing he studies.) Kenner is brilliant.

Remember, Ulysses is a book about a guy walking around Dublin while his wife is having an affair with another man. He is aware of this. And his wife is aware that he is aware of this. And then there's Stephen...

I can't believe I left House of Leaves off my top ten, or The Count of Monte Cristo, or Valis!


And by the way, you shut up!

You've read more of Proust than I'll ever read!!
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Reply #112 posted 05/11/06 9:02pm

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Ooh... interesting choice for an Asimov novel. I liked it, but my favorites are the robot novels.



I've always found it disapointing that Sci-fi writers don't receive more acclaim for their work. Often, they have very important things to say about the human experience, or about human nature--the sci-fi sometimes just places them in scenerios where those flaws/characteristics may have fantastic consequences.

Take for example, Orsan Scott Card's Xenoxide, where despite years of human advancement, myth still gets in the way of science, etc.


I definitely agree with you. I think you might like a book I recently read. "Mindscan" by Robert J. Sawyer. Check it out.
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Reply #113 posted 05/11/06 9:08pm

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2. Calculating God -- by Robert J. Sawyer
whose colour is green and whose descant rapture;
whose number is two, and two is the number of love.




Haven't read this one. hmmm Did you read Mindscan? I enjoyed it.
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Reply #114 posted 05/11/06 9:22pm

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Haven't read this one. hmmm Did you read Mindscan? I enjoyed it.


not yet but I did read most of "the neanderthal parallax"
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Reply #115 posted 05/11/06 9:32pm

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coolcat said:


Haven't read this one. hmmm Did you read Mindscan? I enjoyed it.


not yet but I did read most of "the neanderthal parallax"


Is it good? I'll have to check out Calculating God...
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Reply #116 posted 05/11/06 9:42pm

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Is it good? I'll have to check out Calculating God...


it's quite intriguing .. i read calculating god cuz one of the guys around town recommended it
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Reply #117 posted 05/11/06 11:53pm

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3. Jane Eyre -- by Charlotte Bronte
whose colour is white and whose charge endurance;
whose number is three, and three is the number of life.


4. [b]A Midsummer Night's Dream -- by William Shakespeare
whose colour is red and whose cadence sorrow;
whose number is four, and four is the number of death.
[/b]

8. Notes from the Underground -- by Fyodor Dostoevsky
whose colour is brown and whose burden anguish;
whose number is eight, and eight is the number of pain.


9. Oliver Twist -- by Charles Dickens
whose colour is purple and whose banner justice;
whose number is nine, and nine is the number of truth.




is that your fav Shakespeare? i never really turned on to him
until i read MacBeth. wow. i have copies of that all about, i
think there's even one in the toillet downstairs, lol.
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #118 posted 05/11/06 11:54pm

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2the9s said:

Doctor Faustus -- Thomas Mann



love love love
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #119 posted 05/12/06 5:04am

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I'm not big on general fiction, I read more science fiction and fantasy, and although I do read tons of it, not much of it sticks out as spectacular or worth a second read. All of the ones below I would happily read again, and again, and again :

Naked Lunch - William S. Burroughs
Dark Elf Trilogy - R.A. Salvatore
The Third Policeman - Flann O'Brien
Foucault's Pendulum - Umberto Eco
Split Infinity (trilogy) - Piers Anthony
Magician (series) - Raymond E. Feist
Empyrion - Stehpen Lawhead
The Persistence of Vision - John varley (the best, bar none, collection of short SF stories I've read)
Burning Chrome - William Gibson

I almost feel obliged to include James Joyce's Ulysses, but I've only read it once, and have only read one book about it, so I'm still very much at the beginning of my 'what the hell is Ulysses all about' journey. But, as I have read it, and intend to continue my study of it, I assume I will one day see it for the literary brilliance is it renowned to be. I'm sure Mr. Joyce is spinning in his grave at the thought of his masterpeice being included in a list of favourite 'novels'. Oh well.

I feel that Stephen King should get a mention because I've read and enjoyed plenty of his books. 'The Tommyknockers' was a good one, and one of his fantasy books 'The Eyes of the Dragon' was a great read.



Non Fiction :

The Ambient Century, From Mahler to Moby - The Evolution of Sound in the Electronic Age - Mark Prendergast
The most enjoyable, informative, and all encompassing book about music I've ever read.

Food of the Gods - Terence McKenna
History of the use of drugs, how they are enmeshed in cultural and religious symbolism.

Cyberia - Douglass Rushkoff
Not particlarly relevant any more as time and technology have moved on (although the choice of drugs hasn't). A good account of what it was like at the cutting edge of drug and technology culture as digital technology opened up a whole new range of art forms and methods of expression.

Inside Out - Nick Mason
Excellent biography about the Floyd, not just full of info about the band from an insiders point of view, but Nick Mason is also a very talented writer. I hope he writes some more. I can see him writing some very good humourous fiction a la Terry Jones or Robert Rankin.

Margrave Of The Marshes - John Peel, Sheila Ravenscroft
First bit written by John, sadly he died before completing it, so his wife finishjed it with input from their children. Probably not the best biography ever written, although John Peel did have a nice witty style. I'm still reading this one, and thoroughly enjoying it - it's nice to find out more about Mr. Peel, for whom I have the utmost respect.

The Holographic Universe - Michael Talbot
Very interesting theory about life, the universe and everything.

Earth Memory: Sacred Sites - Doorways into Earth's Mysteries - Paul Devereux
My favourite account of some of the most important ancient sacred sites. Really cohesive and well written book.

The book of Lies - Alistair Crowley
Even the explanations of the passages are difficult to follow. Not the easiest book in the world to read, but fascinating to me because I enjoy trying to figure out what he's on about. I still haven't a clue, but I'll keep trying.
Lemmy, Bowie, Prince, Leonard. RIP.
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