kisscamille said:

AYN RAND!!!

What's the word out in orgland?

I've read The Fountain Head and Atlas Shrugged, and although I enjoyed them, the "speeches" her heroes give at the end of each novel are brutal. I'm like, I get it, Objectivism is your philosophy Ayn, can we get on with the prose...

TheResistor said:

I have read all of Hemingways work and some were quite hard to read. The Sun Also Rises is written perfectly. I'm not an expert on writing, but to me, it's a beautifully, well written story. Many people don't care for Hemingway because he was a real mans man. He loved to hunt, fish, drink and he loved women too. I've read The Sun Also Rises at least 6 times and each time I discover something more about the story.

kisscamille said:

Thanks!

I think I'll pick this up as well...

TheResistor said:

I hope you enjoy it. Once you've read it, let me know what you think.

in no real order:

1. one flew over the coos coos nest-ken kasey
2. sula-toni morrison
3. bluest eye-toni morrison
4. soul on ice-eldrige cleaver
5. the autobiography of Malcom X-alex haley
6. roots-alex haley
7. Before night falls-reinaldo arenas this is a really good book!!
8. interview with a vampire-anne rice
9. jacob have i loved-Katherine Paterson
10. i know why the caged bird sings-maya angelou
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kisscamille said:

really liked this one. Hemingway is such a great writer.

kisscamille said:

same thing goes for me. i didn't know what to think of his work until i
read "The old man and the sea" and i loved that so much that i decided,
finally, to give his other books another try and The Sun Also Rises, id
read before but didn't really care for, i fell in love with. same goes
for "For Whom The Bell Tolls"

brownsugar said:

tell me more about it

IstenSzek said:

its an autobiography about this guy who is attempting to escape persecution by the cuban government during because he is gay. its a very dark book i think. Actually he's a poet and novelist. it starts with him being a little boy and him talking about when he knew he was gay which was about 5 years old i think. i don't want to give away too much because its also a movie. i never saw the movie tho.

brownsugar said:

sounds very interesting. i'll write down the title!

Imago said:

Ooh... interesting choice for an Asimov novel. I liked it, but my favorites are the robot novels.

IstenSzek said:

its one of those books you can't put down for another day. i think i was up til about 2 or 3 am finishing it.

coolcat said:

I've always found it disapointing that Sci-fi writers don't receive more acclaim for their work. Often, they have very important things to say about the human experience, or about human nature--the sci-fi sometimes just places them in scenerios where those flaws/characteristics may have fantastic consequences.

Take for example, Orsan Scott Card's Xenoxide, where despite years of human advancement, myth still gets in the way of science, etc.

brownsugar said:

I hate sounding dense but I SAW THE MOVIE. I loved it. Javier Bardem was incredible in it. Johnny Depp was hilarious in such a subtle way.

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MIGUELGOMEZ said:

no not dense at all. it makes me wanna see the movie. i think i'll rent it. when i got the book i didn't even know it was a movie. i was blown away. but you should read the book 'cause movies sometimes leave stuff out and he's telling it from his perspective.

Anx said:

I heard Alice walker once interviewed on Indie radio. She was very entertaining, as well as humble. She speaks with great humor even though her writing is often wrought with pain.

Anx said:

a friend of mine has been telling me to read "Confederacy of Dunces" for the longest. i completely forgot about this book.

Imago said:

I saw her speak once, and she was very funny and very engaging. During the Q&A, someone in the audience said "the movie of 'The Color Purple' is a lot different than the book", and Walker's eyes got all big and she said "WHAT?!?"

I guess ya had to be there, but it was hilarious.

brownsugar said:

I think you'd love it - it's one of the funniest things I've ever read, and it goes in crazy directions that you don't expect while keeping some sense of realism in tact.

brownsugar said:

I totally agree about the book first, then the movie. The book is always so much better. It's nice when the movie does the book justice though.


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Miguel i think i'm gonna rent this..

brownsugar said:

You are going to love Johnny Depps's small part in it.


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IstenSzek said:

When reading Hemingway, you have to be patient and read thoroughly. His books are very detailed and if you try to rush through it, you will miss a lot and not enjoy it the same way you would if you just take your time and absorb the story. Try "death in the afternoon". Great story, but once again, very detailed. I would say that he is my favourtire author (if I had to choose one).

kisscamille said:

very true. the only reason i tried hemingway just once more with reading
The Old Man and the Sea was because i had got it together with another 1
of his novels and was bored on a hot summer night and went outside in the
garden to read a bit. for some reason i picked this little book and when
i started reading it (very attentively) it started gnawing on me that it
was such an incredible little book while i had expected it to be just an
other hemingway snoozefest, lol.

that made me reconsider my views on his other books and so i decided to
read them again, one by one, *slowly* and indeed, starting with The Sun
Also Rises, Hemingway started to reveal his true brilliance to me.

i'm so glad i kept on trying.

i think i will have the same experience with Faulkner soon. i just know
that his books are brilliant but i haven't read any one of his books in
the right mindset. i'm usually too hurried when i pick one of his books
up. i should try again this summer when it's too hot to sleep and start
one of his books in late afternoon and just read quietly all through the
night. i love doing that.

i think the reason i decided to check out The Old man And the Sea when i did, was because i'd just finished The Collected Dorothy Parker and in many of her
reviews she is very much in awe of Hemingway. she teases him, but she likes
him a lot. i think they had a bit of a love/hate thing going on. she kind of
adored him but would also ridicule him because she made him uncomfortable
and he considered her a nuicance. (as far as i can remember from having read
in marion meade's biography "dorothy parker: what fresh hell is this?"

IstenSzek said:

If you have any luck with Faulkner, let me know. I've tried a few times in the past and I can't seem to get past the first 50 pages. I started reading The sound and the fury a few years back and it made no sense to me and I gave up. I hate when I start a book and don't finish it. I've only done that a few times, but it pisses me off. I like to finish each book I choose to read, but Faulkner stumped me.
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1. The Fountainhead -- by Ayn Rand
whose colour is gold and whose shout creation;
whose number is one, and one is the number of birth.

2. Calculating God -- by Robert J. Sawyer
whose colour is green and whose descant rapture;
whose number is two, and two is the number of love.

3. Jane Eyre -- by Charlotte Bronte
whose colour is white and whose charge endurance;
whose number is three, and three is the number of life.

4. A Midsummer Night's Dream -- by William Shakespeare
whose colour is red and whose cadence sorrow;
whose number is four, and four is the number of death.

5. Pattern Recognition -- by William Gibson
whose colour is black and whose blazon challenge;
whose number is five, and five is the number of war.

6. The Skystone : The Dream of Eagles Vol. 1 -- by Jack Whyte
whose colour is gray and whose murmur calmness;
whose number is six, and six is the number of peace.

7. Black Holes and Baby Universes and Other Essays -- by Stephen Hawking
whose colour is blue and whose guerdon wisdom;
whose number is seven, and seven is the number of lore.

8. Notes from the Underground -- by Fyodor Dostoevsky
whose colour is brown and whose burden anguish;
whose number is eight, and eight is the number of pain.

9. Oliver Twist -- by Charles Dickens
whose colour is purple and whose banner justice;
whose number is nine, and nine is the number of truth.

10. Return to the Whorl : The Final Volume of 'The Book of the Short Sun' -- by Gene Wolfe
whose colour is crimson and whose anthem valor;
whose number is ten, and ten is the number of strength.

slicksight said:

Julius caesar
hamlet
macbeth
othello
taming of the shrew
as you like it-i've only seen the play

brownsugar said:

Twelfth Night (video) .. quite amusing