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Thread started 05/07/06 2:17pm

JPW

It's Alien Time Again

So after the success of my last thread on this subject, I have found another interesting video.

I want to know what you all think of this footage, the so-called "Alien Interview":



http://video.google.com/v...ns&pl=true


The jury is still out for me...

Also, here is a recent interesting interview with Gary McKinnon, the British guy who is on trial for hacking into NASA in search of UFO evidence:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/...977134.stm

peace
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Reply #1 posted 05/07/06 2:23pm

Spookymuffin

I don't believe in any of it, but it's interesting to study nonetheless. I tend to believe in the UK's DoD findings (see BBC News).
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Reply #2 posted 05/07/06 2:39pm

JPW

Spookymuffin said:

I don't believe in any of it, but it's interesting to study nonetheless. I tend to believe in the UK's DoD findings (see BBC News).


wait till you see something you can't explain in the sky.

what i saw may have been ET technology and manned by people, but it certainly wasn't man-made.
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Reply #3 posted 05/07/06 4:43pm

Xagain

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At what time in the video is the "interview"? I don't want to have to watch this whole thing.
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Reply #4 posted 05/07/06 4:45pm

JPW

Xagain said:

At what time in the video is the "interview"? I don't want to have to watch this whole thing.


from memory, a little over half way through
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Reply #5 posted 05/07/06 4:45pm

Spookymuffin

Xagain said:

At what time in the video is the "interview"? I don't want to have to watch this whole thing.

About 40mins in.
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Reply #6 posted 05/07/06 4:48pm

Spookymuffin

You know what my problem is. I've seen so many images of aliens shown as "greys" that when I see videos like that I can't help but think fake. They've been used in so many images, and have been so parodied that I can't help but think fake, fake, fake. If I was to become a sensationalist conspiracy theorist I would probably say that's why the government has cultivated the grey image - to make us sceptical. However, even if that is what aliens look like, you're going to have a tough time convincing me. I instantly recoil away from sensationalist and biased programs like that google one. I watched it the whole way through, and whilst Victor was convincing due to his paranoia, the sensationalist narrating that plagues all conspiracy theories makes me want to puke and gets me really angry.

why can't these people be unbiased and less sensationalist?! It would make their whole arguments so much more convincing if they didn't kick up a fuss like an 8 year old girl.
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Reply #7 posted 05/07/06 4:49pm

JPW

Spookymuffin said:

Xagain said:

At what time in the video is the "interview"? I don't want to have to watch this whole thing.

About 40mins in.


what was your verdict, spooky? as before?
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Reply #8 posted 05/07/06 4:53pm

JPW

Spookymuffin said:

You know what my problem is. I've seen so many images of aliens shown as "greys" that when I see videos like that I can't help but think fake. They've been used in so many images, and have been so parodied that I can't help but think fake, fake, fake. If I was to become a sensationalist conspiracy theorist I would probably say that's why the government has cultivated the grey image - to make us sceptical. However, even if that is what aliens look like, you're going to have a tough time convincing me. I instantly recoil away from sensationalist and biased programs like that google one. I watched it the whole way through, and whilst Victor was convincing due to his paranoia, the sensationalist narrating that plagues all conspiracy theories makes me want to puke and gets me really angry.

why can't these people be unbiased and less sensationalist?! It would make their whole arguments so much more convincing if they didn't kick up a fuss like an 8 year old girl.


well i think that just because the "grey" image is popular, doesn't mean it's fabricated, in fact i would suggest that if it is so common then perhaps there is some truth to all the similar descriptions.

i mean, screw all the "taken" and "x-files" stuff... those were based on real peoples' accounts.

as for the sensationalism, i totally agree.... but really, don't shoot the messenger... making up your own mind despite the presentation should be where it's at.

if you're interested in a less sensationalist approach, try the documentary "out of the blue"... really worth a look and it presents the issue in a more mature way.
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Reply #9 posted 05/07/06 4:58pm

Spookymuffin

JPW said:

Spookymuffin said:

You know what my problem is. I've seen so many images of aliens shown as "greys" that when I see videos like that I can't help but think fake. They've been used in so many images, and have been so parodied that I can't help but think fake, fake, fake. If I was to become a sensationalist conspiracy theorist I would probably say that's why the government has cultivated the grey image - to make us sceptical. However, even if that is what aliens look like, you're going to have a tough time convincing me. I instantly recoil away from sensationalist and biased programs like that google one. I watched it the whole way through, and whilst Victor was convincing due to his paranoia, the sensationalist narrating that plagues all conspiracy theories makes me want to puke and gets me really angry.

why can't these people be unbiased and less sensationalist?! It would make their whole arguments so much more convincing if they didn't kick up a fuss like an 8 year old girl.


well i think that just because the "grey" image is popular, doesn't mean it's fabricated, in fact i would suggest that if it is so common then perhaps there is some truth to all the similar descriptions.

i mean, screw all the "taken" and "x-files" stuff... those were based on real peoples' accounts.

as for the sensationalism, i totally agree.... but really, don't shoot the messenger... making up your own mind despite the presentation should be where it's at.

if you're interested in a less sensationalist approach, try the documentary "out of the blue"... really worth a look and it presents the issue in a more mature way.


I didn't explain very well - I agree with you on the "grey" image.
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Reply #10 posted 05/07/06 5:00pm

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Is there ever any sound of the interview?
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Reply #11 posted 05/07/06 5:02pm

Spookymuffin

Xagain said:

Is there ever any sound of the interview?


The guy removed the sound from the tape when he gave it to the TV station to protect the identities of the interviewers and medical teams.
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Reply #12 posted 05/07/06 5:03pm

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I think it'd be more funny if the footage showed the alien sitting with scientists playing cards... or doing the wave with them.... or watching Judge Judy.
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Reply #13 posted 05/07/06 5:06pm

Spookymuffin

ufoclub said:

I think it'd be more funny if the footage showed the alien sitting with scientists playing cards... or doing the wave with them.... or watching Judge Judy.


falloff

Smoking and playing cards with a bottle of JD by his side. lol
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Reply #14 posted 05/07/06 5:08pm

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Spookymuffin said:

Xagain said:

Is there ever any sound of the interview?


The guy removed the sound from the tape when he gave it to the TV station to protect the identities of the interviewers and medical teams.



THAT figures. biggrin

I can't believe people can see this and even WONDER if it COULD be really. There are Muppets that look more alive than this head-on-a-stick. biggrin
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Reply #15 posted 05/07/06 5:09pm

Spookymuffin

Xagain said:

Spookymuffin said:



The guy removed the sound from the tape when he gave it to the TV station to protect the identities of the interviewers and medical teams.



THAT figures. biggrin

I can't believe people can see this and even WONDER if it COULD be really. There are Muppets that look more alive than this head-on-a-stick. biggrin


lol I laughed when he started choking, and laughed harder when Victor got emotional. evillol

Even my 6 year old brother thought the video was a pile of wank, and look at the people they got to examine the video - make-up artists and some old guy with a horrible grey ponytail.
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Reply #16 posted 05/07/06 5:17pm

Number23

I thought Victor's facial hair was more intreguing than his footage, which I saw when it was originally released a few years ago during a particularly intense EBE fanatisist stage in my life.
The cheesy American production and crap presenter did the weighty subject matter no favours either. But the footage is powerful, whether it's fake or not. It provokes us to ask the question 'what if...' and if it achieves that, then it's done its job. Nothing is real, anyway.
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Reply #17 posted 05/07/06 5:22pm

Spookymuffin

Number23 said:

I thought Victor's facial hair was more intreguing than his footage, which I saw when it was originally released a few years ago during a particularly intense EBE fanatisist stage in my life.
The cheesy American production and crap presenter did the weighty subject matter no favours either. But the footage is powerful, whether it's fake or not. It provokes us to ask the question 'what if...' and if it achieves that, then it's done its job. Nothing is real, anyway.


Hey you, ain't seen your lovely blonde locks around here in a while.
My brother and I were cracking gags about Victor in reality being the Yeti and trying to divert attention away from himself. lol
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Reply #18 posted 05/07/06 5:28pm

JPW

even though i posted it because i am interested in the subject, i have a sneaking suspicion the whole bloody doco was rigged

neutral

but i wanted to know what others thought shrug
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Reply #19 posted 05/07/06 5:29pm

JPW

if you look really close... perhaps i am imagining it, but i swear its mouth moves... that makes me think it could possibly have some credibility
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Reply #20 posted 05/07/06 5:29pm

Byron

Apparently aliens don't blink...even when a flashlight is shoved right in front of their eyes...lol lol...In fact they have no control over their facial features whatsoever...their jaws, their cheeks...nothing moves on their face. Nothing.

And if I have a real, legitimate tape of an actual alien, the FIRST place I'd take it to is...Rocket Pictures! Screw Dreamworks or Warner Bros. or 60 Minutes...Rocket Pictures is THE place to take your earth-shattering evidence of alien life.

This is beyond fake, it's so obvious.
[Edited 5/7/06 10:30am]
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Reply #21 posted 05/07/06 5:32pm

Spookymuffin

Byron said:

Apparently aliens don't blink...even when a flashlight is shoved right in front of their eyes...lol lol...In fact they have no control over their facial features whatsoever...their jaws, their cheeks...nothing moves on their face. Nothing.

And if I have a real, legitimate tape of an actual alien, the FIRST place I'd take it to is...Rocket Pictures! Screw Dreamworks or Warner Bros. or 60 Minutes...Rocket Pictures is THE place to take your earth-shattering evidence of alien life.

This is beyond fake, it's so obvious.
[Edited 5/7/06 10:30am]


lol - although they did say that those black bits weren't its eyes, they were lenses covering its eyes.
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Reply #22 posted 05/07/06 5:34pm

Byron

Spookymuffin said:

Byron said:

Apparently aliens don't blink...even when a flashlight is shoved right in front of their eyes...lol lol...In fact they have no control over their facial features whatsoever...their jaws, their cheeks...nothing moves on their face. Nothing.

And if I have a real, legitimate tape of an actual alien, the FIRST place I'd take it to is...Rocket Pictures! Screw Dreamworks or Warner Bros. or 60 Minutes...Rocket Pictures is THE place to take your earth-shattering evidence of alien life.

This is beyond fake, it's so obvious.
[Edited 5/7/06 10:30am]


lol - although they did say that those black bits weren't its eyes, they were lenses covering its eyes.

Alien contact lenses...wonderful..lol...I guess you'd never lose one of THOSE babies on the carpet, huh?
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Reply #23 posted 05/07/06 5:35pm

LleeLlee

It's faker than Madonna's British accent.

confused
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Reply #24 posted 05/07/06 5:36pm

Spookymuffin

Byron said:

Spookymuffin said:



lol - although they did say that those black bits weren't its eyes, they were lenses covering its eyes.

Alien contact lenses...wonderful..lol...I guess you'd never lose one of THOSE babies on the carpet, huh?


Alien conversation:

"oh my god guys..don't move, just don't move - my lense has fallen out. Oh god, where is it? WHERE IS IT?!"
"dude...it's right here. How could you miss it? I mean, the thing's FUCKING HUGE."
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Reply #25 posted 05/07/06 5:41pm

LleeLlee

I think the alien just got fed up of answering questions about Tom Cruise and decided to die.

confused
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Reply #26 posted 05/07/06 5:41pm

Byron

Spookymuffin said:

Byron said:


Alien contact lenses...wonderful..lol...I guess you'd never lose one of THOSE babies on the carpet, huh?


Alien conversation:

"oh my god guys..don't move, just don't move - my lense has fallen out. Oh god, where is it? WHERE IS IT?!"
"dude...it's right here. How could you miss it? I mean, the thing's FUCKING HUGE."
[Edited 5/7/06 10:36am]

The thing's a sattelite dish... lol

And what's with the "doctors" rushing in once the alien starts to convulse and dip its head...all they do is shine a flashlight in the alien's face, and wipe his chin! You got a stinkin' live alien in your presence that's about to keel over, and you're worried about his drooling?...
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Reply #27 posted 05/07/06 5:42pm

Byron

LleeLlee said:

I think the alien just got fed up of answering questions about Tom Cruise and decided to die.

confused

lol
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Reply #28 posted 05/07/06 5:42pm

JPW

Byron said:

Spookymuffin said:



lol - although they did say that those black bits weren't its eyes, they were lenses covering its eyes.

Alien contact lenses...wonderful..lol...I guess you'd never lose one of THOSE babies on the carpet, huh?


they don't speak either... hence the lack of much facial expression...

but myself and my gf both see some movement around the mouth at certain times...

anyway... whatever!
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Reply #29 posted 05/07/06 5:45pm

Spookymuffin

JPW said:

Byron said:


Alien contact lenses...wonderful..lol...I guess you'd never lose one of THOSE babies on the carpet, huh?


they don't speak either... hence the lack of much facial expression...

but myself and my gf both see some movement around the mouth at certain times...

anyway... whatever!

I see its mouth move too - open and close like a goldfish. Aliens have a great facial muscle complexity don't they. When choking and dying they show so much emotion.
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