Well, I'm not going to defend business corporate Windows users, but the only reason why that aloof 20-something student guy probably got his Mac is because his rich parent's bought it for him so he could study more "effectively".

Novabreaker said:

Harsh for a Monday morning!

Okay I'm gonna try to tackle that mac promotion address: www.apple.com/getamac. I'm bored and need to waste my time, seriously:



I don't think I have spent an hour troubleshooting this PC since I bought it. So the answer is zero time. Mac software is better integrated because it mostly comes from the same vendors, which doesn't have as much to do with the freedom of choice as with PC, where most of the houses are independent.



Wtf? "Into all kinds of projects"? Oh wonderful, I can turn my everyday computer usage into "projects". How much more professional does that sound? I guess I'm stupid enough not to be able to donwload the thousands of freeware programs that will allow me to do all this amazing stuff on a PC as well. And I didn't know I can suddenly make high-quality music videos just because I get a Mac, in your face Hype Williams!



You can customize a PC to look like anything you want these days. OS X graphics are far from gorgeous, let alone functional.



Well, the only reason why Mac's aren't getting their share of viruses is because more than 95% of computer users are on Windows. If you are so afraid of viruses and can't resist downloading that mysterious .exe file that just accidentally landed in your inbox, then I guess getting a Mac makes sense.



I guess an up-to-date and flexible file browser like the Explorer or Konqueror would have been too challenging for these same engineers to come up with.



Oh wonderful. So they are now advertising proudly the fact that they are running Intel? Oh my, how the times have changed. Guess what? PCs have been running on Intel for decades, and that's why some wanted to flee over to Macs in the first place.



Yeah why not. Mom, set up your videochat application so I can videochat with you tonight. With special effects.



Oh, even more fun? You don't even have to visit a separate website? That's great. Why did I have internet connection in the first place?



Yeah, coming up with something to say is the hard part. I guess the young bohemian guy in your ad didn't remember to take that into account.



I don't even want to know how this is supposed to convince me into believing Macintosh computers are way better than PCs.



This... is the lamest thing ever. In my dreams of becoming a musician I definitely always wanted to choose from hundreds of cool riffs. Real music for real musicians, all the way baby.



Yeah, all you need is a 1,000,000$ camera and you'll get your Hollywood-quality flick in minutes. And all the Hollywood studios must use nothing more than bundled Apple software for sure.



And this is supposed to be an advantage compared to Windows, because...?



Believe me. It's not.


Seriously, how much more can you underestimate your customers? Microsoft does it too, but not to this level.
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surely Macs have their share of problems, after all, it is a computer and sooner or later you need updates and upgrades that can get costly. and yes they freeze, crash, lose data etc etc. but for as long as i use a computer, i will never, ever buy nor consider buying a PC simply becuz of the problems i faced when i was using them at work.

they are simply too complicated and yes, they crash and burn a lot more than any mac i have ever used. the pop-ups when using the net are never ending, the freezes, the time it takes to boot up, VIRUSES! (yes PCs may have the market lead but then there you go - the price you pay for being in the flock), and to be honest, they're just plain ugly to look at.

but this is all a personal preference. Mac Rules!

Milty said:

You can't even do propper yahoo chat!

Imago said:

look you Chat stalker.....why don't you answer when someone calls for you?

two words: kettle and black?

Milty said:

oh, you mean my mobile phone yahoo.
I still don't know how to use that very well.

Imago said:

no....you stay on Yahoo and MSn...but you never asnswer a call

I'm using a copy of XP media centre edition. Works fine for now, though I'll probably have to buy another copy soon as after a while the updates don't work.

Milty said:

no, my spring yahoo service makes it look like I'm always on yahoo.

And my msn is probably logged on line on my home pc, but I'm here at work.


I always like chattin with you, especially when we talk crap about the other orgers who aspire to reach your exhaulted uber orgness heights.

Milty said:

It's really the fault of your network designer at your work place if they don't work well enough. Macs are just as hard to get to work inside a network without serious problems.



Windows XP, released already years ago is no more complicated than OS X.



Macs aren't anymore nowhere nearly as stable as they once were compared to Windows.



I guess so, if you don't use a pop-up blocker.



Macs freeze too, mostly due to too slow processors.



A basic Macintosh system takes several times longer to boot up than a Windows XP system. Long boot-up time on PCs is always caused by bad network configurations.



Hrmph. For the millionth time. You can customize a PC to look like anything you want, and even stock PCs these days look pretty much the same as Macs.

Of course, people are free to do whatever they want with their money.

Imago said:

ah i see...well that's ok then....and that last part.....yes, you're right.

Novabreaker said:

i can refute everything you have typed there.

basically it is all wrong. it is. honest.

Milty said:

Dude, you are all about the Imago. You're all up in that. Just let him stroke your goatee one time and maybe you'll both get it out of your systems.

Fauxie said:

If you do a search on google for phrases like "windows activation crack" or "xp activation removal tool", or something like that, you will find several programs that may work.

Look for one that's made for Service Pack 2, since some of the older ones probabbly don't work and were intended for earlier versions of Windows XP.

Windows XP can be kind of picky about the activation. Even if you only have it installed on one computer, if you change too much of the hardware inside, it will cause your activation to not work.

Or, if you don't mind reformatting your computers with legit copies, if you know some people that are in college, ask them to pick up a student copy for you. Most campuses sell Windows XP to students for like $15.

Novabreaker said:

I loathe Mac's, lol. Particularly the way they are marketed. There are plenty of nice looking Windows systems. I just bought a Dell XPS 200, with the 20" Ultrasharp monitor, and the wireless keyboard and mouse, and it looks really sharp.



Pop-ups from a web page have nothing to do with the operating system. It's some javascript code that triggers the pop up. Practically all modern browsers on both platforms allow you to enable or disable popups.

The fact that there's fewer viruses, adware, and spyware on the Mac, isn't a virtue of the operating system, it's just that so few people use macs, that noone really cares to write them for it. There's probably plenty of vulnerabilites waiting to be exploited in the Mac OS. It's just never been put to the test yet. If Mac's ever gained a bigger percentage of the market, the operating system and it's users would be a sitting duck.

Those new commercials for Apple, where it shows the kid and the business man, crack me up. Theres hundreds of thousands of freeware programs available for Windows, to do just about anything you need.

Also, Windows does a much better job of being compatible with older hardware. My brother just bought a Mac, and I had an extra Cannon scanner that I wasn't using so I gave it to him, figuring he could just download the drivers and use it on his mac; it wouldn't work with his OS. With Windows, I can plug in devices like cameras, and scanners, and game controllers that are like 6-7 years old and they will still work with my current OS.

Not to mention, Mac's cost an arm and a leg. Take a look at any Mac system on the market, and you can probabbly find an windows machine with equivalent processing power, same size hard drive, and the same amount of memory, for like half the price.

You're victims of Apple's arrogant and shit marketing!

And all this viruses and windows pcs bollocks. Macs are currently in the midst of a virus overload - many more than ever before, because they swapped to intel and many viruses are coded for the X86 platform in the first place and thus require little modding. Macs are far from good, they're shit. Shitter than windows. Heck, some Linux set ups are better than Macs.

Also, if you look at the future, Windows Vista will piss ALL OVER Steve Jobs.

Spookymuffin said:

hahahahahah.....no problems here. macs are not in the midst of a virus over load. 'A', meaning one, virus built for Macs was found a couple of weeks ago.
and what?
that's just PC scare mongering.
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Milty said:

I seriously doubt that.
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Milty said:

Errm, no - you're being ignorant. Just go to Neowin.net, or find the article over at BBC News - Mac victims are very vulnerable since they tend not to use virus protection due to the fact that viruses were previously uncommon. Last month a mega virus was created that exploited a flaw in the way the OS reads JPEG images allowing the virus access to the OS X kernel and therefore the ability to brick your machine.

Furthermore,

In the 7 years I've used a PC, 6 of which have been without any form of virus protection, I only picked up 2 viruses on my first ever virus scan of the same computer. 2 viruses in 7 years...yeah...PCs really are riddled with viruses. Only idiots who look up shitty porn and crack sites pick up loads of viruses.
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Novabreaker said:

i just did.

Spookymuffin said:

well then i guess we both have been fortunate to have great running computers.

Milty said:

Actually, you didn't. But whatever.

Novabreaker said:

read it. go back.

Milty said:

Yep. I have both a mac and a pc. I know the flaws in both, which is why I hate people who are fanboys of either.

Spookymuffin said:

oh thank god you admitted that cuz this argument would have lasted all damn day.

Milty said:

I originally answered to that post of yours in the first place, so that doesn't make any sense.

If Milty likes Macs, than I like macs!

Because Milty is one hot trendy bitch!