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Thread started 05/11/06 1:19pm

Mach

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Men Pay the Ultimate Price to Attract Women



While it is tough to be a woman, being a man can be downright deadly.



Women live longer than men. And now scientists suggest a simple Darwinian reason: Competing for a mate can wear a guy out or get him killed.


"Women live longer in almost every country, and the sex difference in lifespan has been recognized since at least the mid-18th century," said Daniel Kruger at the University of Michigan. "It isn't a recent trend; it originates from our deep evolutionary history."


The idea is presented in the spring edition of the journal Human Nature.


Butting heads


In common chimpanzees, Kruger and his colleague Randolph Nesse report, mortality spikes among males around age 13, just as they're old enough to breed and start competing for social status.


Males of many species must fight vigorously for the right to mate. Think of rams butting heads. Spectacular male bird plumage is another example of biological effort required to succeed, effort that uses energy and can shorten a life.


In this scheme of natural selection, evolution shapes traits that help the best genes survive, sometimes to the detriment of individuals.


Human males don't always have to wrestle to get a woman these days, but the pressure to succeed sexually hasn't changed much, the researchers argue. Only the methods have been revised.


Drop your club


Though society may be changing dramatically even from this generation compared to the last, some things never change. Women still have to bear the greatest burden of raising a family—giving birth—and often take on more of the day-to-day responsibilities for the ensuing 18 years. So just as in ancient times, they remain very choosy in selecting a mate.


Now, if you buy all this logic, here's the critical part: To impress women, men remain prone to risky behavior, just as they have been for millennia and just as other male animals are.


In caveman days, being good with a club was one way to get a mate. Now, the ability to purchase a blinged-out SUV has similar value, the scientists suggest.


"Men compete for resources and social status, which are criteria men are valued for in mate selection," Kruger told LiveScience.


Own worst enemy


The pressures of mate selection might be most intense for those just coming into adulthood. And likewise the recklessness of youth, as previous researchers have suggested, is a foundation for human social systems. Young men form the front lines in wars, for example.


One old study on the topic put it this way: "Lacking the opportunity for warfare, some [young adult men] will find other ways to place their lives at risk."


Another study last year, reported in the Journal of Epidemiology and Community Health, reached similar conclusions. It cited "excessive risk taking, aggression, and the suppression of emotions by boys and young men" as being directly related to lower life expectancy in men.

Among the not-so-beneficial behaviors this includes are smoking, reckless driving and violence, Kruger and Nesse write. This idea is reinforced by data that show low social status has a greater impact on male mortality rates than on those of women: Men of lower status or who lack a mate are more likely to engage in a riskier pattern of behaviors, Kruger said.
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Reply #1 posted 05/11/06 1:21pm

fathermcmeekle

Is it just me or is this making anyone else horny?

confused
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Reply #2 posted 05/11/06 1:22pm

Anx

well, at least women aren't getting all preying mantis and eating men yet.
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Reply #3 posted 05/11/06 1:23pm

Mach

Anx said:

well, at least women aren't getting all preying mantis and eating men yet.


YET eek
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Reply #4 posted 05/11/06 1:23pm

SupaFunkyOrgan
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Thank God I don't have to compete for chicks lol
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Reply #5 posted 05/11/06 1:24pm

SupaFunkyOrgan
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Mach said:

Anx said:

well, at least women aren't getting all preying mantis and eating men yet.


YET eek

What kind of sauce do you think your man would taste best in? razz
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Reply #6 posted 05/11/06 1:25pm

Anx

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Mach said:



YET eek

What kind of sauce do you think your man would taste best in? razz


General Tsao sauce drool
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Reply #7 posted 05/11/06 1:25pm

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Anx said:

well, at least women aren't getting all preying mantis and eating men yet.


whistling
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Reply #8 posted 05/11/06 1:28pm

Mach

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Mach said:



YET eek

What kind of sauce do you think your man would taste best in? razz


OMG ... I will not allow myself to go into this subject in public forum ...
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Reply #9 posted 05/11/06 1:29pm

LleeLlee

fathermcmeekle said:

Is it just me or is this making anyone else horny?

confused



you're always horny confused
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Reply #10 posted 05/11/06 1:29pm

ThreadCula

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Anx said:

well, at least women aren't getting all preying mantis and eating men yet.



stab burger
"Nobody makes me bleed my own blood...NOBODY!"
johnart says: "I'm THE shit"
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Reply #11 posted 05/11/06 1:32pm

Anx

CarrieMpls said:

Anx said:

well, at least women aren't getting all preying mantis and eating men yet.


whistling


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Reply #12 posted 05/11/06 1:34pm

CarrieMpls

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Anx said:

CarrieMpls said:



whistling




I grind all the livelong day...

music
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Reply #13 posted 05/11/06 1:53pm

fathermcmeekle

LleeLlee said:

fathermcmeekle said:

Is it just me or is this making anyone else horny?

confused



you're always horny confused

confused
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Reply #14 posted 05/11/06 1:54pm

SupaFunkyOrgan
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fathermcmeekle said:

LleeLlee said:




you're always horny confused

confused

Problematic idn't it? cool
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Reply #15 posted 05/11/06 1:56pm

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Anx said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


What kind of sauce do you think your man would taste best in? razz


General Tsao sauce drool

general tso's man-bits?
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Reply #16 posted 05/11/06 1:57pm

SupaFunkyOrgan
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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

Anx said:



General Tsao sauce drool

general tso's man-bits?

I like the sauce they already cum with giggle
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Reply #17 posted 05/11/06 1:59pm

Handclapsfinga
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Anx said:

well, at least women aren't getting all preying mantis and eating men yet.

that'd be some funny stuff...you'd be at the club and see some chick just bite a guy's head clean off. i'd be like "holy flaming hohners, it's like i'm in a PBS nature special!" omfg
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Reply #18 posted 05/11/06 2:35pm

fathermcmeekle

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

fathermcmeekle said:


confused

Problematic idn't it? cool

Thank God for masturbation! nod

Which, incidentally, is the title of my sermon this Sunday! smile
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Reply #19 posted 05/11/06 3:54pm

SupaFunkyOrgan
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fathermcmeekle said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


Problematic idn't it? cool

Thank God for masturbation! nod

Which, incidentally, is the title of my sermon this Sunday! smile

That one I wanna hear! biggrin
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Reply #20 posted 05/11/06 6:04pm

charlottegelin

Men don't live as long if they don't sleep in longer uninterrupted chunks. Although I suspect this was made up by a guy who wants his wife to get up when the baby cries. hmmm
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Reply #21 posted 05/11/06 8:32pm

CinisterCee

charlottegelin said:

Men don't live as long if they don't sleep in longer uninterrupted chunks. Although I suspect this was made up by a guy who wants his wife to get up when the baby cries. hmmm


lol true!!
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Reply #22 posted 05/11/06 9:01pm

CinisterCee

fathermcmeekle said:

Is it just me or is this making anyone else horny?

confused


Was it the part about cavemen clubbing their women over the head?
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