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who wanna c this movie!!!!!????
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Reply #1 posted 04/29/06 9:56am

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Ugh, not me. disbelief

They're only donating 10% of the first few day's profits to a memorial fund...so in essence they're just gonna make a huge amount of profit off of people's brave actions.
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Reply #2 posted 04/29/06 10:05am

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evenstar3 said:

Ugh, not me. disbelief

They're only donating 10% of the first few day's profits to a memorial fund...so in essence they're just gonna make a huge amount of profit off of people's brave actions.

the movie is getting astounding reviews as best of the year.
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Reply #3 posted 04/29/06 10:07am

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paisleypark4 said:

evenstar3 said:

Ugh, not me. disbelief

They're only donating 10% of the first few day's profits to a memorial fund...so in essence they're just gonna make a huge amount of profit off of people's brave actions.

the movie is getting astounding reviews as best of the year.
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shrug I don't care if it's the best movie ever, I don't want to support people doing that.
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Reply #4 posted 04/29/06 10:08am

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evenstar3 said:

paisleypark4 said:


the movie is getting astounding reviews as best of the year.
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shrug I don't care if it's the best movie ever, I don't want to support people doing that.


thats why i wanna see it b4 people try the damndest to take it out. The danger of it makes me wanna see it more
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Reply #5 posted 04/29/06 10:09am

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I dread every 9/11. I get chills on that day..i'll never forget the terror and pain and loss. It has to be remembered though. I understand now when my parents
tell me about December 7th, when Pearl Harbor was attacked..and how they felt.
there's another movie coming out about the first responders to the world trade center. I won't be able to watch it, but it has to be made and remembered, that I do understand
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Reply #6 posted 04/29/06 10:13am

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PurpleRein said:

I dread every 9/11. I get chills on that day..i'll never forget the terror and pain and loss. It has to be remembered though. I understand now when my parents
tell me about December 7th, when Pearl Harbor was attacked..and how they felt.
there's another movie coming out about the first responders to the world trade center. I won't be able to watch it, but it has to be made and remembered, that I do understand


nod It should be remembered, absolutely.

I just don't understand why they can't donate more money to charities...
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Reply #7 posted 04/29/06 10:17am

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evenstar3 said:

Ugh, not me. disbelief

They're only donating 10% of the first few day's profits to a memorial fund...so in essence they're just gonna make a huge amount of profit off of people's brave actions.



I think they're making money off of their creative efforts ...so the commercial effort doesn't bother me. I think they've shown proper respect and allegedly got permission from victims' families beforehand.
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Reply #8 posted 04/29/06 10:24am

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i take it back... i am curious to see it in new york just to see how the audience responds to it. word of mouth in new york has not bene friendly. most people i have talked to here about it dismiss it out of hand, knowing that a large profit is going to be made on those people's death. the same is felt about the upcoming oliver stone movie.
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Reply #9 posted 04/29/06 10:48am

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evenstar3 said:

Ugh, not me. disbelief

They're only donating 10% of the first few day's profits to a memorial fund...so in essence they're just gonna make a huge amount of profit off of people's brave actions.


And Friday's numbers are in....

1 (new) R.V. Sony Pictures Comedy $4,700,000 3,639 $1,292 $4,700,000 1
2 (new) Stick It Buena Vista Comedy $4,100,000 2,038 $2,012 $4,100,000 1
3 (new) United 93 Universal Drama $3,700,000 1,795 $2,061 $3,700,000 1
4 (1) Silent Hill Sony Pictures Horror $3,200,000 +197.35% 2,932 $1,091 $28,100,000 8
5 (3) Scary Movie 4 Dimension Comedy $2,400,000 +252.44% 3,418 $702 $72,800,000 15
6 (2) The Sentinel 20th Century Fox Thriller $2,300,000 +174.16% 2,851 $807 $20,200,000 8
7 (new) Akeelah and the Bee Lionsgate Drama $1,900,000 2,195 $866 $1,900,000 1
8 (4) Ice Age: The Meltdown 20th Century Fox Comedy $1,600,000 +184.07% 3,122 $512 $172,300,000 29
9 (6) The Benchwarmers Sony Pictures Comedy $1,300,000 +296.99% 2,695 $482 $49,700,000 22
10 (5) The Wild Buena Vista Adventure $1,000,000 +169.36% 2,605 $384 $24,700,000 15
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Reply #10 posted 04/29/06 10:51am

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Reply #11 posted 04/29/06 11:05am

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no. i had quite enough when it really happened, i have absolutely no desire to re-live it. people say "remember 9/11"...how could i possibly forget?
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Reply #12 posted 04/29/06 11:20am

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no. i had quite enough when it really happened, i have absolutely no desire to re-live it. people say "remember 9/11"...how could i possibly forget?



Exactly-may they rest in peace rose.
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Reply #13 posted 04/29/06 11:25am

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I'm not going to see that one.
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Reply #14 posted 04/29/06 11:29am

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it's too soon for 9/11 movies. these movies need to be made for the next generation, who weren't alive when it happened. even then, i'm not sure if this is something that should go with popcorn and twizzlers.
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Reply #15 posted 04/29/06 11:38am

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PurpleRein said:

I dread every 9/11. I get chills on that day..i'll never forget the terror and pain and loss. It has to be remembered though. I understand now when my parents
tell me about December 7th, when Pearl Harbor was attacked..and how they felt.
there's another movie coming out about the first responders to the world trade center. I won't be able to watch it, but it has to be made and remembered, that I do understand


i feel the same. i don't think i could even sit through it.
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Reply #16 posted 04/29/06 11:39am

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I'm able to look at this movie for its cinematic art...I can't wait to see the bravery, quick thinking, and sacrifice dramatized.

I don't think anything is so sacred that it can't be dramatized, in fact I think that can be a form of reverence, enshrinement.

I don't see capitalism as a negative thing.

CBS2 in Chicago interviewed some people who saw the move Friday and yes they were crying and emotional, but most thought the portrayal was very skillfully done.
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Reply #17 posted 04/29/06 11:39am

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Anx said:

it's too soon for 9/11 movies. these movies need to be made for the next generation, who weren't alive when it happened. even then, i'm not sure if this is something that should go with popcorn and twizzlers.

thats how i feel about it....


its like taking such a horrible event and turning it into entertainment.



also, i agree that there should be MUCH MORE of the money going to the families.. i wouldnt be so ashamed of whoever the hell made the movie if they did that. as it is, its just an opportunity to make someone a lot of money
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Reply #18 posted 04/29/06 11:43am

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SynthiaRose said:

I'm able to look at this movie for its cinematic art...I can't wait to see the bravery, quick thinking, and sacrifice dramatized.

I don't think anything is so sacred that it can't be dramatized, in fact I think that can be a form of reverence, enshrinement.

I don't see capitalism as a negative thing.

CBS2 in Chicago interviewed some people who saw the move Friday and yes they were crying and emotional, but most thought the portrayal was very skillfully done.



i agree with a lot of what you're saying, but for ME, it's too soon. i can remember 9/11 like it was yesterday, and i will probably be able to for the rest of my life. it was a horrible, horrible day full of fear and grief. why would i want to pay money to go into a theater in my spare time to have that horror splashed in front of my eyes? no. it's not for me. i don't know that it ever will be. the only reflections of 9/11 i can deal with are the ones that mention hope and recovery from the hideousness of that day. most sentiments like that come through music. laurie anderson's last live album starts with some beautiful spoken words by her about 9/11. that kind of thing i can handle.
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Reply #19 posted 04/29/06 11:50am

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I'll never forget things like this..this was a day or two after the attack I believe..you could see the smoke from outer space..


or time after time after time tv news programs showed this...and feeling a shock each and every time I saw this...not letting my daughter who was 6 at the time watch tv. some of the kids in her class did, and had nightmares...




Finding out that my friend Rick's brother died in the Tower..
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Reply #20 posted 04/29/06 11:51am

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SynthiaRose said:

I'm able to look at this movie for its cinematic art...I can't wait to see the bravery, quick thinking, and sacrifice dramatized.

I don't think anything is so sacred that it can't be dramatized, in fact I think that can be a form of reverence, enshrinement.

I don't see capitalism as a negative thing.

CBS2 in Chicago interviewed some people who saw the move Friday and yes they were crying and emotional, but most thought the portrayal was very skillfully done.



I agree. I haven't seen it and have no plans to see it in the immediate future, but I will watch it.

The fact that this movie had the approval and cooperation of the victims/heroes families says something. I think it is a wonderful thing for the last moments and heroic actions of those brave (and non-celebrity) individuals to be remembered through film. I for one tried over and over again to imagine what the people on all the flights that day (9/11) went through or did in the last moments of their lives. Even when I didn't want to think about that, I did, I couldn't get them out of my mind. So yeah, I am interedted in seeing this movie. Perhaps it can be cathartic in some way.

As far as the money being donated, what would be enough? It does seem like they should give a portion of ALL proceeds (theatre release, vhs/dvd, eventual cable showing, etc) for a longer period of time at the least.
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Reply #21 posted 04/29/06 11:56am

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Purplerain,

Those pictures you just posted made me burst into tears. My son was fiveat the time and it was so hard being a parent on that day and during the many weeks after that it took for his little five year old brain to grasp what actually happened. He, like many other young kids, thought that it was happening over and over again because they kept replaying the footage.
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Reply #22 posted 04/29/06 11:57am

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I'd just moved from NYC to Chicago a few months before 9/11, and my good friend Ji - who I'd worked with and who was a constant fixture in my first apartment in the East Village - was one of the people you saw running for their lives in news footage. I didn't actually see her on television, but she told me she ran non-stop from Chase Plaza to 14th Street that day, covered in dirt and soot and lord knows what else. But thank goodness, other than some seriously raw feet, she was okay. And my other friends in NYC were all spared. All I could do that day and the days after was take inventory of everyone I knew out there, and to try to contact them all to make sure they were okay. Several of them called me first. I felt so helpless, like I should never have moved away from New York. Everyone has their story from that day, I guess. Some people's are more heartbreaking than others.
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Reply #23 posted 04/29/06 11:58am

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I'm able to observe many things from a detached, purely intellectual standpoint ...I've been to KKK rallies (I'm black) and I swear I was listening and trying to understand their logic, I've intertiewed people next to dead bodies, etc. I go into fringe observer mode.

That's not to say I'm callous or unemotional. I'm VERY emotional...it's weird ...I can't explain it.

When I see this movie, my mind will be isolated from the historical day and just glued to the film as a visual narrative. My subconcious will remember though and that will be the beauty of the experience for me...

ETA: I just read the above post. For those with personal experiences of friends and families being affected, I can TOTALLY understand how "detaching" would not be an option for them.
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Reply #24 posted 04/29/06 11:59am

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Terilicious said:

SynthiaRose said:

I'm able to look at this movie for its cinematic art...I can't wait to see the bravery, quick thinking, and sacrifice dramatized.

I don't think anything is so sacred that it can't be dramatized, in fact I think that can be a form of reverence, enshrinement.

I don't see capitalism as a negative thing.

CBS2 in Chicago interviewed some people who saw the move Friday and yes they were crying and emotional, but most thought the portrayal was very skillfully done.



I agree. I haven't seen it and have no plans to see it in the immediate future, but I will watch it.

The fact that this movie had the approval and cooperation of the victims/heroes families says something. I think it is a wonderful thing for the last moments and heroic actions of those brave (and non-celebrity) individuals to be remembered through film. I for one tried over and over again to imagine what the people on all the flights that day (9/11) went through or did in the last moments of their lives. Even when I didn't want to think about that, I did, I couldn't get them out of my mind. So yeah, I am interedted in seeing this movie. Perhaps it can be cathartic in some way.

As far as the money being donated, what would be enough? It does seem like they should give a portion of ALL proceeds (theatre release, vhs/dvd, eventual cable showing, etc) for a longer period of time at the least.



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not letting my daughter who was 6 at the time watch tv. some of the kids in her class did, and had nightmares...



i was working at a newstation at the time, and had to see it live and replayed endlessly for about 10 hours a day. none of us could sleep for shit. most of us were having horrific nighmares from having to see it again and again and again for 8 or more hours a day. it was made me finally get out of news.
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Reply #26 posted 04/29/06 12:40pm

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neutral I really wish those pictures hadn't just been posted. I remember all too well that day and I don't want to see anything else like that again. Nobody in this generation will forget it. Wait until the next generation to make movies about it.
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SynthiaRose said:

I'm able to observe many things from a detached, purely intellectual standpoint ...I've been to KKK rallies (I'm black) and I swear I was listening and trying to understand their logic, I've intertiewed people next to dead bodies, etc. I go into fringe observer mode.

That's not to say I'm callous or unemotional. I'm VERY emotional...it's weird ...I can't explain it.

When I see this movie, my mind will be isolated from the historical day and just glued to the film as a visual narrative. My subconcious will remember though and that will be the beauty of the experience for me...

ETA: I just read the above post. For those with personal experiences of friends and families being affected, I can TOTALLY understand how "detaching" would not be an option for them.
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I work in media and I understand about needing to be detached in order to get a story, deliver a report, etc...

I guess it may be easier to be less "emotional" or easier to be detached because this is a re-enactment, with actors and fake terrorists and all but
I know that I will NOT be unemotional or detached when I see this movie, even though I don't know anyone who lost their lives or were injured on that day. a I thank God for that. I never want to be emotionally detached from another human beings suffering.

Now with that being said, put a camera or mic in my face and I'm able to give pertinant info in a calm, clear manner. Soon as that camera/mic is off I'm all tears.
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Terilicious said:

SynthiaRose said:

I'm able to observe many things from a detached, purely intellectual standpoint ...I've been to KKK rallies (I'm black) and I swear I was listening and trying to understand their logic, I've intertiewed people next to dead bodies, etc. I go into fringe observer mode.

That's not to say I'm callous or unemotional. I'm VERY emotional...it's weird ...I can't explain it.

When I see this movie, my mind will be isolated from the historical day and just glued to the film as a visual narrative. My subconcious will remember though and that will be the beauty of the experience for me...

ETA: I just read the above post. For those with personal experiences of friends and families being affected, I can TOTALLY understand how "detaching" would not be an option for them.
[Edited 4/29/06 12:03pm]

I work in media and I understand about needing to be "unemotional" and trying to be detached in order to get a story, deliver a report, etc...

I know that I will NOT be unemotional or detached when I see this movie, even though I don't know anyone who lost their lives or were injured on that day. a I thank God for that. I never want to be emotionally detached from another human beings suffering.

Now with that being said, put a camera or mic in my face and I'm able to give pertinant info in a calm, clear manner. Soon as that camera/mic is off I'm all tears.
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i will never forget watching this one woman covering the 9/11 events (im sure there were more that did this, but she really touched me) ... she tried so hard to get through her story and the poor girl had tears rolling down her cheeks.

its not all that often that you see someone covering a news story and having such an emotional response, she was understandably an emotional wreck. watching her made me cry even more....

its got to be incredibly difficult to cover such emotional stories and not have it hit you personally.
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Reply #29 posted 04/29/06 1:02pm

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i am scared it won't be respectful. and the fact that 50% or more of the proceeds aren't going to charity bothers me. making large sums of money off others pain and tragedy...disturbing....thats why i don't think i could watch it.


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