CalhounSq said:

You just don't like brutal truth.

susannah said:

the other day before I went on tv I seriously thought I'd rather give birth again than go live on national tv - that's how scared I was

you only hear the horror stories you don't hear about the ones that go perfectly, or the "textbook" labours, and there are millions of those

My brother-in-law is youngest of 6, all births went uneventfully with perfect little babies who grew into great adults. Happens all the time.

Good luck to you for when the time comes!

Spats said:

you sound like a 14 year old kid. Your immaturity is astounding.


like that time you wanted to shove a cupcake in some girls face, one of the most ridiiculous things ive ever read here...

Spats said:

you sound like a 14 year old kid. Your immaturity is astounding.


like that time you wanted to shove a cupcake in some girls face, one of the most ridiiculous things ive ever read here...

Spats said:

there are such things as pelvic floor exercises

LleeLlee said:

my youngest son is twelve, and is way more mature!!

LleeLlee said:

It was the plain jane coffee shop girl and i came so close to doing it. She had it coming for being upset that i turned her ass down. It would not have hurt. Cupcakes are soft. It would just have humiliated her.

Spats said:

Dont you think its extremely childish for a grown man to be threatening waitresses with cupcakes?

CalhounSq said:

You just don't like brutal truth.

LleeLlee said:

sexinthesummer said:

When he becomes interested in girls he will care about looks. You'll see.

susannah said:

I didn't even threaten to do it. It never came to that. But she deserved to have it happen.

Spats said:

If you came at me with a cupcake I would laugh my ass off.

~is it a man?..is it a plane?..nooooo...its cupcake man...!!!~

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Spats said:

If you came at me with a cupcake I would laugh my ass off.

~is it a bird?..is it a plane?..nooooo...its cupcake man...!!!~

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LleeLlee said:

Spats said:

Your posts remind me of someone I know. He thinks exactly like you.

You're either very good looking or, like this guy is, very, very rich. Most guys are obsessed with saying what they think chicks wanna hear not what they are actually thinking, but if they are hot or rich, they can get away with murder.

So which is it? Hot or rich?

Personally, I find your honesty, no matter how silly sometimes, refreshing.

LleeLlee said:

the cupcake avenger strikes again

cborgman said:

"Some men don't have the stomach or may even be traumatized by witnessing a childbirth."

Yeah, and it's a barrel of laughs for the woman.

Somehow I can't bring myself to feel pity for the person who gets to stand about while all the real work is being done. Can't imagine why.

You put that baby in there mister, you're damn well watching it come out.

nakedpianoplayer said:

That's my little angel.....look at how beautiful she was that first day!

jerseykrs2 said:

omg shes sooo cute, i want one!!!! lol

I'm not going romantacize it by saying that it is a beautiful experience.

It's a traumatizing, stressful, painful, and often tense experience. But (I'm going to sound like the raving Buddhist again), when the baby is finally born, and the room erupts in tears and jubilation, that part is beautiful, becuase at a very very basic level, the fragile nature of life and the obvious miracle of what it takes to give birth to it, becomes appearent in a way that can't be described except by experiencing it. Every selfish and greedy adult in that room is transformed into a protective being who only wants to bestow compassion on the newborn.

I walked in just after my first nephew was born, and saw the afterbirth, saw the bloody baby, and saw an exhuasted younger sister of mine lying there looking relieved, and I swear to God, it was the first time in my life I felt the presence of something devine. The very first time.


Men confound me, the way we've bought off on social norms of how to behave towards women, and towards ourselves. I mean, most of our fathers barely even know who we are.

Whover that idiot is that made that statement about being in the bar has my sympathies.

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origmnd said:

Men (and women) should do whatever the fuck they want, if they want to witness it then cool, if they don't also cool...
People shouldn't do things just because some PC group of people pushes their thoughts on them...
Some men don't have the stomach or may even be traumatized by witnessing a childbirth (for whatever reason you might not even understand, you don't know what goes on in every individual man's head or where they come from or have witnessed in their lifes...) and by calling them "a lesser Man" is kind of pathetic and tells more about the lack of intelligence and retardedness of the person judging them...

Neversin.

yes fathers should be at the birth of thier chidren.


I held my daughter for the first six hours of her life, changed her first nappy (diaper). When they moved my family back to the ward, I think they had Top of the Pops 2 on and the Carpenters was playing 'close to you'. I play this on her birthday just for me and every time i have tears in my eyes. Just put in and yep tears!!!!

ThreadCula said:

Placenta is gross.

Two things:

1) Michael Savage is NOT an idiot (although he says some idiotic things)
2) I bet it looks like Hamburger Helper down there after all is said and done.

Spats said:

If you came at me with a cupcake I would laugh my ass off.

~is it a bird?..is it a plane?..nooooo...its cupcake man...!!!~

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sexinthesummer said:

When he becomes interested in girls he will care about looks. You'll see.

You see...I'll be honest and blunt here...I want a c section..cause a....no 8-10 pound kid is squeezing through a hole the size of a quarter...no...not happening...ok...my cooter....is way too special to me and I dont wanna spend like 15k on getting it reconstructed just because my kids big head ripped it all up...I mean....yes I'll love the miracle of child birth but hey i'm 4'11 and a half....I'm small and pushing a huge thing out of me...is gonna have its consequences...

Spats said:

oddly enough, he is already interested in girls, and he has alot more feeling that u could ever hope to have. must've been you're mom, she didn't teach u right, and for that, u will suffer, and never understand the true meaning of life. sorry for u