Anx said:

I saw a documentary on this...it's so cool!

Anx said:

well, that explains why you kept humping my leg during the show. as attracted as you are to pussies, i suppose it was inevitable.

Anx said:

Anx said:

mum's the word. but still, thanks!

XxAxX said:

co-

I love the guy's expression: "This is just so normal!".

XxAxX said:

that one kitty on the lower right looks suspiciously like a chihuahua!!!

Anx said:

It DOES!!

Maybe that kitty is incognito. On the lam. So she ran away and joined the moscow kitty theatre.

CarrieMpls said:

Anx said:

I'd pay twice what I paid for madonna to see her show reinacted with cats!

Anx said:

Well then we could go together!

CarrieMpls said:

You know that kitty has gone through its life with people making fun of it. Now you guys pile on.

CarrieMpls said:

Somehow I imagine all the kitties getting food served like those Fancy Feast cats do.

Anx said:

I might go as well. But they'd have to take Madonna out of it first.

superspaceboy said:

The Confessions In A Catbox Tour!

Anx said:

I can just see the "Hidden Treasures" segment! The "Madonna Cat" Gets lowered into a Litter Box and Does her "thing" while meowing the song Like a Virgin.

I don't dig this kind of stuff at ALL. Too much like the circus and I don't like animal circuses because they don't treat the animals right. Same thing applies here.

OK, I will be the first to admit that I have been trying to avoid this dreadful thread based on principle. However, so profound is my stalking of Anx, that I have succumbed to posting on this (as of this posting) still dreadful thread. I may even start to read it soon



God, I love Anx

Teacher said:

if it appeared to be the case, i would agree. but from everything i've read about this production, the animals are treated well and trained without cruelty. some people think it's unethical for animals to be trained at all, but i don't fall into that camp. i think if the animals are treated well and they have a knack for whatever it is they're being trained to do, there's no reason it should be considered "abusive".

Anx said:

Consider how these animals spend a lot of their time though - shut into crates being shipped here and there across the world. Not very fun for anybody is it?

Teacher said:

They seem to be OK. Don't they get these cats that are about to be destroyed or something.

Hey it's not like they are juggling the cats or something

superspaceboy said:

I spot a holy birman, a persian and some semi-long haired breed I don't know the name of, one of them is a norwegian breed though... these cats aren't likely to be put down so I don't think so. It's just what I said, going around the world locked in a shipping crate isn't my idea of a fun time for ANYBODY, human or animal.

Teacher said:

well, as far as i know about this production, it started in moscow and now it's in new york. it doesn't seem to be a travelling production. also, the company seems to pride itself on the way it cares for the animals, and it also sponsors several animal rights and pet adoption organizations in new york. as vocal as this company seems to be about the way it treats its animal talent, you'd think the new york chapter of PETA would be all over them if they were doing anything less than spoiling those cats rotten.

Anx said:

PETA would if it'd give them good publicity, not otherwise. I'm just voicing my opinion, I wouldn't have a cat perform no matter what, no matter how spoiled they are. They look healthy and all but I just don't feel it!

IrresistibleB1tch said:

I wasn't gonna say anything either but then I saw the cats and the baby carriage and voilà
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IrresistibleB1tch said:

no, i totally understand and respect your view in terms of animals in entertainment being ideologically unethical. i don't know that i 100% agree, but i understand it, and as things i disagree with go, i would rather err on the side of your opinion than the other extreme.

as far as the untrainability of cats, however, my best friend lila had a cat who just died a couple of years ago and had a very special talent. lila had trained her cat, when she was just a kitten, to fetch paperwads (the higher the throw, the better - this cat LOVED to jump) and bring them back to you. i think some cats are trainable - i think any animal is trainable if they have the aptitude - just like people. it's when "trainers" try to train animals without aptitude that things get screwed up. that's my two cents on the matter, anyway.

Anx said:

fair enough, i always like the way you discuss things in a respectful manner.

on the trainability thing - chasing and fetching is pretty natural to cats - doing a "handstand" is not.

and we do need to keep in mind that even Ringling Brothers, despite several charges by the government, still maintains that their animals are well taken care of. so as far as the treatment is concerned, i would not necessarily take the circus' word for it. it may very well be true and well-intended on their part, but we need to take it with a grain of salt.

IrresistibleB1tch said:

I've always been concerned about how animals get treated at circuses and in movies. There are just so many horror stories. I hope they're happy; they look like they are.