I don't agree that Michael's character was cruel.

jerseykrs said:

you don't think killing Fredo wasn't cruel??? yes i get why he had to do it, but goodness that was his blood brother, and everybody knew that Fredo was on the dumb side of things and naive.

oh Fuck that he took sides against the family with Moe fucking green in Vegas... tried to have Micheal Killed in his own bedroom?.. shit i woulda wacked that slow talkin fuck to.

IAintTheOne said:

yeah, see, that's what I'm talking about. As long as he didn't go against everyone that loved him, he never would have gotten killed. Shit, Michael's sister is testament to the fact that you can be an idiot and still be taken care of. He crossed a line and paid for it.

jerseykrs said:

and fredo knew he was about to get wacked, he knew it.

Frankie's found in the bath with his wrist slit. cus he was next to get wacked cus he was a fuckin rat and turned over for the fucking Feebs,

IAintTheOne said:

i thought he made an agreement that he would kill himself, and in return his family would get looked after.

missfee said:

Yes, that was probably his hardest decision in the whole story. It was a cruel act, but there was reasoning behind it. Other than that, I don't know if I'd tag the term "cruel" to his entire character.

jerseykrs said:

all gangsters have to be cruel by nature, they rule by fear and imtidimdation. its their reputation which demands the respect they receive.

wouldn't you classify the killing of that prostitute just to bribe that commisioner as cruel.

Savour said:

Exactly. That part was cruel as well because they were bribing the Senator. Sure Michael was a smart business man, but he was in fact a cruel criminal as well. Just because he wasn't a gun toting, hot head like Sonny, doesn't mean that he was just as cruel as Sonny was. He just didn't show, in fact Michael was more dangerous, because he the "smarter" one, he was very good in hiding his emotions....that is until Kay dropped the bomb on him about that abortion...she was just asking for that slap in the face...

missfee said:

i agree very machiavellian very calculating.

Savour said:

but thats what I love about Michael, how calculating he is.
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I don't agree that Michael's character was cruel.

jerseykrs said:

you don't think killing Fredo wasn't cruel??? yes i get why he had to do it, but goodness that was his blood brother, and everybody knew that Fredo was on the dumb side of things and naive.

I haven't seen III since it came out in theaters. And I don't plan on changing my status any time soon.

u2prnce said:

III was such a let down for me...it's like everytime i watch it, i'm really struggling trying to tie that one to the other two....but i can't

i just watch it because of how fine Andy Garcia looked in the movie, and plus Kay and Michael finally reconciled their differences with one another and admitted that they still loved each other.

I & II were so powerful, and so sophisticated, it showed Michael at his best..he was confident and so sure of what he was doing...even if it was morally wrong

but in III it was like, he had become a bit insecure in his decisions especially about his decisions in the past and he grew a conscience. Somehow i can't really grasp Michael Corleone with a conscience. Even after seeing III a billion and one times (which isn't half as many times i've seen the first two, because they are my faves ) Michael Corleone with a conscience just isn't accepting to me.

Even Vito never regretted any of the decisions and orders he made at his older age.
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missfee said:

Just pretend it doesn't exist. It's better that way.

u2prnce said:

u r funny

but i'm just saying, Michael Corleone, crying like a bitch over the past... just didn't seem like something he would do realistically. The only thing i could see him regretting is killing Fredo, but thats about it.
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missfee said:

Well, the thing to remember is that twenty or so years have passed between part 2 and 3. Sometimes you do things when you're younger that you wouldn't do when you're older and have more perspective. He's closer to the end of his life than he is the beginning. I didn't think it was completely unbelievable that he would regret what he did. The worst part of the movie was Sophia Coppola. She became a good director, but she's an awful actress.

missfee said:

Yes, that was probably his hardest decision in the whole story. It was a cruel act, but there was reasoning behind it. Other than that, I don't know if I'd tag the term "cruel" to his entire character.

Savour said:

Exactly. That part was cruel as well because they were bribing the Senator. Sure Michael was a smart business man, but he was in fact a cruel criminal as well. Just because he wasn't a gun toting, hot head like Sonny, doesn't mean that he was just as cruel as Sonny was. He just didn't show, in fact Michael was more dangerous, because he the "smarter" one, he was very good in hiding his emotions.... that is until Kay dropped the bomb on him about that abortion...she was just asking for that slap in the face...

missfee said:

that was my favorite part of all three movies.

of course, i was only half watching the movies because i was throwing a party and the TV was kinda like background noise. my dad has the trilogy and next time i'm at his house, i'll probably watch it.

missfee said:

that was my favorite part of all three movies.

of course, i was only half watching the movies because i was throwing a party and the TV was kinda like background noise. my dad has the trilogy and next time i'm at his house, i'll probably watch it.

JasmineFire said:

This is gonna sound really messed up, but when Kay says that, I identify with Michael and I wanna kick the shit out of her.