A guy that was in my husband's first band got nabbed downloading kiddie porn at work of all places! Big trouble as you can imagine, since he is being used as an example.
Horrifying that it even exists, and that people you know might be looking at it.

charlottegelin said:

and did your husband and his mates kick the shit out of this pervert???

REDBABY said:

he would've I'm sure, but he hasn't seen him in over 20 years - the worst thing IMO, is this guy has kids of his own!!

charlottegelin said:

..and do you know if the kids are ok?

Is he on the SEX offenders list?

Why is it not BANNED??? and NOBODY can have a child porn site., and anyone who chooses to click on it, or download, why cant they do morew to stop it fullstop???


Makes my blood boil and my skin crawl - that it is still allowed to happen!

REDBABY said:

It is Illegal.

The Internet is so difficult to monitor it would be almost impossible - However if you read the articles you will see that the main reason is the Posn Sites are shifted Globally on a regular basis making it hard to track down the owners etc.

The sad thing about the Intenet is it is a global issue and no one wants to take sole responsibilty - Thats why as Users of the Internet we should be vigilant and report any "Dodgy" sites - A year ago we clicked a link to a Childrens website - Using a search engine - That link had been "Hijacked" and directed us to a Porn Site - We immediatly reported the site to the ISP who within 15 minutes had removed the Link - The point being that there is an effort made to remove 'unwanted' sites but it is not like closing down a corner shop for selling dodgy goods - It is much harder to track them down.

Anyone can run a web server from their home and there are millions upon millions of websites and Computers connected to the net - Needle and Haystack is the best way to describe it.
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purpledisc said:

I was just wondering that myself and came to the conclusion it would be impossible

charlottegelin said:

If you do read the full article and associated articles you will see that although not massive - People are making the effort - BT blocking 35,000 Hits a day is a good start - Not a perfect resolve but at least a concerted effort - Other ISPs have started to use the same software too. For every site closed I guess another 5 may open - It is a scary thought but one that is evident - More scary are its users - I still think that ISPs could use the IP tracking system to report users who attempt to access these sites and rport them to the authorities - That is a good way of setting the wheels in motion as I would presume the users are more of a threat than the dealers. This can be done, IP tracking, It is used on many websites and anyone using a Service Provider such as Wannadoo / AOL / BT can all be traced back using IP. Within Reason, which I wont go too far into as it way too techy

A guy that was in my husband's first band got nabbed downloading kiddie porn at work of all places! Big trouble as you can imagine, since he is being used as an example.
Horrifying that it even exists, and that people you know might be looking at it.

purpledisc said:

yeah, my head is spinning already

charlottegelin said:

I used to work at a University and ran the Internet Helpline for Students - Without going into too much technical stuff - The equipment used to access the Internet has its own unique number called a MAC (Media Access Controller) address - this is made up of 12 digits - Example - 00-19-23-21-SE -A0 - These are unique and can be stored on a database with user details. I would presume the ISPs do this as they require this address to resolve technical problems with your PC and its Internet access. Therefore tracking down a user would be siognificantly easier than tracking down the supplier.

purpledisc said:

charlottegelin said:

Why the sad face???

purpledisc said:

because it's so hard to catch the ones putting it up there! and I'm a bit drunk and may have misread what you wrote

charlottegelin said:

LOL !!

Send us a glass of what youre drinking !!!

Given time and public vigilance I would say that maybe a few will get caught and closed down - It is a little like Drugs rings, eventually some do get shut down. We just have to be thankful that there is an attempt to stop this and more importantly we have to make sure that if we are unfortunate to stumble upon such a site, to report it immediately.

purpledisc said:

I was just wondering that myself and came to the conclusion it would be impossible

purpledisc said:

charlottegelin said:

but dont wanna high jack this thread cos of wonderful margharitas..

charlottegelin said:

well kinda cos the governents/authorities prolly monitor all whats going on the internet, so why can they let of all things child pornography slide? anything regarding terrorism and shit, I am sure (albeit just guessing - prolly cos of the book I am reading at the moment) CAN be monitored.. but child pornography just isnt top of their list..

purpledisc said:

REDBABY said:

Again it isnt as simple as that - There are reasons the Gov't etc Monitor for Terrorist Networks and there are reasons they let CPorn slide (although they dont as a rule of thumb because there are agencies dealing with all kinds of Internet related crime funded by the Gov't)

I agree it isnt top of the list - but I suppose National Security is much higher on the Gov'ts agenda than many other crimes too. As wrong as it may sound.

Again the Internet isn't that easy to Police - It would be nice if it was.

The problem is you dont need to register a web site if you dont use a provider service - i.e Many of us here use a company to 'host' our website - If someone put up illegal material such as Child Porn - It wouldnt last a minute. Hoewever because people can provide their own server with a web site on it it creates a harder site to catch - especially if they move on a regular basis - Child Porn sites are like drug rings - It is a big problem and usually moore than one person operating any given site.

purpledisc said:

I think thats untrue and they are thriving off sites like that..

REDBABY said:

You think the Gov't are making money or the ISPs ?

I really doubt either could afford to make such an Immoral mistake.