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Thread started 04/15/06 4:30am

JPW

They'll Find Proof

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/h...907308.stm

There is already proof they've been here, now scientists using laser technology will be able to find ET signals.

Telescope bid to spot alien beams

A new optical telescope designed solely to detect light signals from alien civilisations has opened for work at an observatory in Harvard, US.
It will conduct a year-round survey, scanning all of the Milky Way galaxy visible in the Northern Hemisphere.

Seti is an exploratory science to scour the cosmos for signatures of technology built by alien beings.

Some experts believe alien societies are at least as likely to use light for communicating as radio transmissions.

Sending laser signals across the cosmos would be a very logical way for ET to reach out

Bruce Betts, Planetary Society
The new telescope, which has a 1.8m (72-inch) primary mirror, is the first dedicated optical Seti (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) telescope in the world.

It has been installed at the Harvard Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics at Oak Ridge Observatory.

"The opening of this telescope represents one of those rare moments in a field of scientific endeavour when a great leap forward is enabled," said Bruce Betts, director of projects at the Planetary Society, which funded the telescope.

"Sending laser signals across the cosmos would be a very logical way for ET to reach out; but until now, we have been ill-equipped to receive any such signal."

Bright flashes

Astronomers have been using radio telescopes to look for transmissions from an extraterrestrial intelligence since the 1960s.

But some scientists believe that alien civilisations might opt for visible light to communicate.


Previous searches have used radio telescopes to search for signals
Visible light can form tight beams, be incredibly intense, and its high frequencies allow it to carry enormous amounts of information.

Using only present-day terrestrial technology, a bright, tightly focused light beam, such as a laser, can be 10,000 times as bright as its parent star for a brief instant. Such a beam could be easily observed from enormous distances.

"This new search apparatus performs one trillion measurements per second and expands 100,000-fold the sky coverage of our previous optical search," said the optical telescope's project director, Paul Horowitz of Harvard University, Massachusetts.

The telescope's custom processors will process the equivalent of all books in print every second. As the telescope scans strips of sky, it employs a custom-built "camera" containing an array of detectors that can detect a billionth-of-a-second flash of light.

It has been funded by the Planetary Society with support from the Bosack/Kruger Foundation.







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Reply #1 posted 04/15/06 4:34am

charlottegelin

you're obsessed with this stuff, aren't you!


ufo
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Reply #2 posted 04/15/06 4:35am

ReturnofDOOK

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Reply #3 posted 04/15/06 4:37am

charlottegelin

ReturnofDOOK said:


todd's new avvie! lol if only we could have animated ones
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Reply #4 posted 04/15/06 6:27am

JPW

charlottegelin said:

you're obsessed with this stuff, aren't you!


ufo


not really... every once and a while i come across some info on it.. i don't spend much time thinking about it at all though really!
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Reply #5 posted 04/15/06 7:31am

MickG

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yes, so get them green laser pointers, and point them up to the sky, signal the mother ship, because there's no hope for this place.
News: Prince pulls his head out his ass in the last moment.
Bad News: Prince wasted too much quality time doing so.
You have those internalized issues because you want to, you like to, stop.
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Reply #6 posted 04/15/06 7:35am

Fauxie

MickG said:

yes, so get them green laser pointers, and point them up to the sky, signal the mother ship, because there's no hope for this place.



But ultimately 'no hope' means very little. It's our nature to self-destruct so why stress? It's what we do. Trees grow and die. We advance, pat ourselves on the back, then destroy ourselves. It's as natural as the sun rising every day.
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Reply #7 posted 04/15/06 7:39am

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Fauxie said:

MickG said:

yes, so get them green laser pointers, and point them up to the sky, signal the mother ship, because there's no hope for this place.



But ultimately 'no hope' means very little. It's our nature to self-destruct so why stress? It's what we do. Trees grow and die. We advance, pat ourselves on the back, then destroy ourselves. It's as natural as the sun rising every day.


natural to the natural world, but in the natural world I am not natural.
News: Prince pulls his head out his ass in the last moment.
Bad News: Prince wasted too much quality time doing so.
You have those internalized issues because you want to, you like to, stop.
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Reply #8 posted 04/15/06 7:57am

Fauxie

MickG said:

Fauxie said:




But ultimately 'no hope' means very little. It's our nature to self-destruct so why stress? It's what we do. Trees grow and die. We advance, pat ourselves on the back, then destroy ourselves. It's as natural as the sun rising every day.


natural to the natural world, but in the natural world I am not natural.


There is nothing else. 'Nature' is such a pointless term. What is not natural? What is not?
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Reply #9 posted 04/15/06 9:11am

JPW

Fauxie said:

MickG said:



natural to the natural world, but in the natural world I am not natural.


There is nothing else. 'Nature' is such a pointless term. What is not natural? What is not?


nature is a thing created by god, which contains god, but it is not god.

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Reply #10 posted 04/15/06 9:16am

Fauxie

JPW said:

Fauxie said:



There is nothing else. 'Nature' is such a pointless term. What is not natural? What is not?


nature is a thing created by god, which contains god, but it is not god.

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[Edited 4/15/06 2:12am]



Created by God or otherwise, what is not nature?
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Reply #11 posted 04/15/06 9:40am

JPW

Fauxie said:

JPW said:



nature is a thing created by god, which contains god, but it is not god.

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[Edited 4/15/06 2:12am]



Created by God or otherwise, what is not nature?



well, rocks, for example. anything not having a life-force.
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Reply #12 posted 04/15/06 9:43am

Fauxie

JPW said:

Fauxie said:




Created by God or otherwise, what is not nature?



well, rocks, for example. anything not having a life-force.



And you feel confident making such a distinction between say a rock and a human as two separate 'things'?
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Reply #13 posted 04/15/06 9:52am

charlottegelin

JPW said:

Fauxie said:




Created by God or otherwise, what is not nature?



well, rocks, for example. anything not having a life-force.

omfg well who made all these rocks then!
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Reply #14 posted 04/15/06 9:55am

Fauxie

charlottegelin said:

JPW said:




well, rocks, for example. anything not having a life-force.

omfg well who made all these rocks then!



lol

Exactly.

Call it what you will, but they came from the same place I did.
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Reply #15 posted 04/15/06 12:21pm

JPW

charlottegelin said:

JPW said:




well, rocks, for example. anything not having a life-force.

omfg well who made all these rocks then!


you didn't listen to what i was saying.

rocks are designed by god but they aren't part of nature, which contains the life-force of God.
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Reply #16 posted 04/15/06 1:22pm

charlottegelin

JPW said:

charlottegelin said:


omfg well who made all these rocks then!


you didn't listen to what i was saying.

rocks are designed by god but they aren't part of nature, which contains the life-force of God.

wink I know
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Reply #17 posted 04/15/06 1:51pm

shausler

they have already found proof

its the telling us part they

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Reply #18 posted 04/15/06 1:52pm

JPW

shausler said:

they have already found proof

its the telling us part they

neglect


nod

I mention that there is already proof at the start of the thread, and yes it is surely true. They exist and they've been here!
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Reply #19 posted 04/15/06 1:54pm

charlottegelin

JPW said:

shausler said:

they have already found proof

its the telling us part they

neglect


nod

I mention that there is already proof at the start of the thread, and yes it is surely true. They exist and they've been here!

omfg I will have nightmares now sad
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Reply #20 posted 04/15/06 1:56pm

JPW

charlottegelin said:

JPW said:



nod

I mention that there is already proof at the start of the thread, and yes it is surely true. They exist and they've been here!

omfg I will have nightmares now sad


from what we know, most appear at the outset to be benevolent
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