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Reply #180 posted 04/20/06 6:29am

applekisses

PurpleJedi said:

I would like to add something to this (somewhat hostile) thread in the hopes of shedding a different perspective on the matter;

As a child I was very underweight. I was the most finicky eater you could imagine. I didn't like vegetables, I didn't like milk, and everything I ate had to be fried. I also didn't like water. Kool-aid and soda only. My mom tried to get me to eat healthy stuff...but I just wouldn't...and being the indulging hispanic mom that she was, I always got my way.
Thinking back, I WISH that my mom had taken a stick and beat me 'till I ate some damned green beans! That unhealthy appetite led to a very awkward adolescence as a scrawny teen, which made the high school years especially difficult.

My wife was the extreme opposite. As a child she had a VERY healthy appetite. Her indulging hispanic mother fed her everything she wanted, and as a result she has struggled with her weight all her life.

We are both suffering the effects of our unhealthy eating habits as children, and now that we are raising three children, we are careful to monitor their eating habits. We try to feed them as many veggies as possible, we do not give them soda, we only give them candy on special occassions (birthdays, holidays...), and try to keep them as active as possible. As parents, it is our DUTY to raise them as HEALTHY as possible, so that hopefully when they are our age, they won't be riddled with high blood pressure, elevated cholesterol, varicrose veins and the other little presents that life gives you as a thirtysomething.



I totally agree with you...but, what we need to separate here is that some extra weight doesn't always equal unhealthy.
My parents ALWAYS monitored what I ate...no sugar cerals...fresh veggies and fruit...no junk (we hardly EVER had junk food in the house...only on holidays)I took vitamins every day and my mom cooked every night. However, I was always a big girl (not obese, but just big...tall...big frame...curvy) and I still am...I'm in my mid-30s...but, look like I'm in my mid-20s (people often mistake me for about 28) and have NONE of the health problems you're talking about (high blood pressure, elevated cholesterol, varicrose veins and the other little presents that life gives you as a thirtysomething) in fact, my blood pressure is a bit below the normal range. However, I don't have what society considers an "ideally healthy looking" body. I have a butt...hips...breasts...and a bit of a tummy and what's funny about the whole thing is that I'm probably healthier than most of the people who think I'm not just by looking at me. lol
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Reply #181 posted 04/20/06 9:40am

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applekisses said:

However, I don't have what society considers an "ideally healthy looking" body. I have a butt...hips...breasts...and a bit of a tummy and what's funny about the whole thing is that I'm probably healthier than most of the people who think I'm not just by looking at me. lol


Absolutely nothing wrong with that at all. "Big" & "fat" are two different things. Screw society's "thin is in" attitude. We all have different body types.
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Reply #182 posted 04/20/06 10:33am

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SammiJ said:

like i said, skinny people = EVIL.

eek falloff

c'mon. being skinny ain't like that.

it's being able to run and run and run without having pounds of flab jiggling all over ya body!
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Reply #183 posted 04/20/06 10:38am

applekisses

XxAxX said:

SammiJ said:

like i said, skinny people = EVIL.

eek falloff

c'mon. being skinny ain't like that.

it's being able to run and run and run without having pounds of flab jiggling all over ya body!



You must be skinny... lol
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Reply #184 posted 04/20/06 11:11am

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applekisses said:



I totally agree with you...but, what we need to separate here is that some extra weight doesn't always equal unhealthy.
My parents ALWAYS monitored what I ate...no sugar cerals...fresh veggies and fruit...no junk (we hardly EVER had junk food in the house...only on holidays)I took vitamins every day and my mom cooked every night. However, I was always a big girl (not obese, but just big...tall...big frame...curvy) and I still am...I'm in my mid-30s...but, look like I'm in my mid-20s (people often mistake me for about 28) and have NONE of the health problems you're talking about (high blood pressure, elevated cholesterol, varicrose veins and the other little presents that life gives you as a thirtysomething) in fact, my blood pressure is a bit below the normal range. However, I don't have what society considers an "ideally healthy looking" body. I have a butt...hips...breasts...and a bit of a tummy and what's funny about the whole thing is that I'm probably healthier than most of the people who think I'm not just by looking at me. lol


There is a big difference between being overweight and being obese.

As I said before, it's excess belly fat that is linked to a lot of health risks. If you have good cholesterol, blood pressure, etc...but have extra weight on your butt or thighs, or boobs, or arms you are not unhealthy at all.

Curvy women are very hot, imo.
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Reply #185 posted 04/20/06 11:43am

purpledisc

OK, So I did a Google for Health Risks Through Obesity.

This is what I got:

United States Department of Health & Human Services.

Overweight and Obesity: Health Consequences

The primary concern of overweight and obesity is one of health and not appearance.

PREMATURE DEATH

An estimated 300,000 deaths per year may be attributable to obesity.
The risk of death rises with increasing weight.
Even moderate weight excess (10 to 20 pounds for a person of average height) increases the risk of death, particularly among adults aged 30 to 64 years.
Individuals who are obese (BMI > 30)* have a 50 to 100% increased risk of premature death from all causes, compared to individuals with a healthy weight.

HEART DISEASE

The incidence of heart disease (heart attack, congestive heart failure, sudden cardiac death, angina or chest pain, and abnormal heart rhythm) is increased in persons who are overweight or obese (BMI > 25).*
High blood pressure is twice as common in adults who are obese than in those who are at a healthy weight.
Obesity is associated with elevated triglycerides (blood fat) and decreased HDL cholesterol ("good cholesterol").

DIABETES

A weight gain of 11 to 18 pounds increases a person's risk of developing type 2 diabetes to twice that of individuals who have not gained weight.
Over 80% of people with diabetes are overweight or obese.

CANCER

Overweight and obesity are associated with an increased risk for some types of cancer including endometrial (cancer of the lining of the uterus), colon, gall bladder, prostate, kidney, and postmenopausal breast cancer.
Women gaining more than 20 pounds from age 18 to midlife double their risk of postmenopausal breast cancer, compared to women whose weight remains stable.

BREATHING PROBLEMS

Sleep apnea (interrupted breathing while sleeping) is more common in obese persons.
Obesity is associated with a higher prevalence of asthma.

ARTHRITIS

For every 2-pound increase in weight, the risk of developing arthritis is increased by 9 to 13%.
Symptoms of arthritis can improve with weight loss.

REPRODUCTIVE COMPLICATIONS

Complications of pregnancy
Obesity during pregnancy is associated with increased risk of death in both the baby and the mother and increases the risk of maternal high blood pressure by 10 times.
In addition to many other complications, women who are obese during pregnancy are more likely to have gestational diabetes and problems with labor and delivery.
Infants born to women who are obese during pregnancy are more likely to be high birthweight and, therefore, may face a higher rate of Cesarean section delivery and low blood sugar (which can be associated with brain damage and seizures).
Obesity during pregnancy is associated with an increased risk of birth defects, particularly neural tube defects, such as spina bifida.
Obesity in premenopausal women is associated with irregular menstrual cycles and infertility.

ADDITIONAL HEALTH CONSEQUENCES

Overweight and obesity are associated with increased risks of gall bladder disease, incontinence, increased surgical risk, and depression.
Obesity can affect the quality of life through limited mobility and decreased physical endurance as well as through social, academic, and job discrimination.

CHILDREN AND ADOLESCENTS

Risk factors for heart disease, such as high cholesterol and high blood pressure, occur with increased frequency in overweight children and adolescents compared to those with a healthy weight.
Type 2 diabetes, previously considered an adult disease, has increased dramatically in children and adolescents. Overweight and obesity are closely linked to type 2 diabetes.
Overweight adolescents have a 70% chance of becoming overweight or obese adults. This increases to 80% if one or more parent is overweight or obese.
The most immediate consequence of overweight, as perceived by children themselves, is social discrimination.

BENEFITS OF WEIGHT LOSS

Weight loss, as modest as 5 to 15% of total body weight in a person who is overweight or obese, reduces the risk factors for some diseases, particularly heart disease.
Weight loss can result in lower blood pressure, lower blood sugar, and improved cholesterol levels.
A person with a Body Mass Index (BMI) above the healthy weight range* may benefit from weight loss, especially if he or she has other health risk factors, such as high blood pressure, high cholesterol, smoking, diabetes, a sedentary lifestyle, and a personal and/or family history of heart disease.

And teh Link to this site, for anyone who is interested: http://www.surgeongeneral...uences.htm
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Reply #186 posted 04/20/06 11:55am

HereToRockYour
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purpledisc said:

OK, So I did a Google for Health Risks Through Obesity.

This is what I got:

United States Department of Health & Human Services.

Overweight and Obesity: Health Consequences

The primary concern of overweight and obesity is one of health and not appearance.

PREMATURE DEATH

An estimated 300,000 deaths per year may be attributable to obesity.
The risk of death rises with increasing weight.
Even moderate weight excess (10 to 20 pounds for a person of average height) increases the risk of death, particularly among adults aged 30 to 64 years.
Individuals who are obese (BMI > 30)* have a 50 to 100% increased risk of premature death from all causes, compared to individuals with a healthy weight.

HEART DISEASE

The incidence of heart disease (heart attack, congestive heart failure, sudden cardiac death, angina or chest pain, and abnormal heart rhythm) is increased in persons who are overweight or obese (BMI > 25).*
High blood pressure is twice as common in adults who are obese than in those who are at a healthy weight.
Obesity is associated with elevated triglycerides (blood fat) and decreased HDL cholesterol ("good cholesterol").

DIABETES

A weight gain of 11 to 18 pounds increases a person's risk of developing type 2 diabetes to twice that of individuals who have not gained weight.
Over 80% of people with diabetes are overweight or obese.

CANCER

Overweight and obesity are associated with an increased risk for some types of cancer including endometrial (cancer of the lining of the uterus), colon, gall bladder, prostate, kidney, and postmenopausal breast cancer.
Women gaining more than 20 pounds from age 18 to midlife double their risk of postmenopausal breast cancer, compared to women whose weight remains stable.

BREATHING PROBLEMS

Sleep apnea (interrupted breathing while sleeping) is more common in obese persons.
Obesity is associated with a higher prevalence of asthma.

ARTHRITIS

For every 2-pound increase in weight, the risk of developing arthritis is increased by 9 to 13%.
Symptoms of arthritis can improve with weight loss.

REPRODUCTIVE COMPLICATIONS

Complications of pregnancy
Obesity during pregnancy is associated with increased risk of death in both the baby and the mother and increases the risk of maternal high blood pressure by 10 times.
In addition to many other complications, women who are obese during pregnancy are more likely to have gestational diabetes and problems with labor and delivery.
Infants born to women who are obese during pregnancy are more likely to be high birthweight and, therefore, may face a higher rate of Cesarean section delivery and low blood sugar (which can be associated with brain damage and seizures).
Obesity during pregnancy is associated with an increased risk of birth defects, particularly neural tube defects, such as spina bifida.
Obesity in premenopausal women is associated with irregular menstrual cycles and infertility.

ADDITIONAL HEALTH CONSEQUENCES

Overweight and obesity are associated with increased risks of gall bladder disease, incontinence, increased surgical risk, and depression.
Obesity can affect the quality of life through limited mobility and decreased physical endurance as well as through social, academic, and job discrimination.

CHILDREN AND ADOLESCENTS

Risk factors for heart disease, such as high cholesterol and high blood pressure, occur with increased frequency in overweight children and adolescents compared to those with a healthy weight.
Type 2 diabetes, previously considered an adult disease, has increased dramatically in children and adolescents. Overweight and obesity are closely linked to type 2 diabetes.
Overweight adolescents have a 70% chance of becoming overweight or obese adults. This increases to 80% if one or more parent is overweight or obese.
The most immediate consequence of overweight, as perceived by children themselves, is social discrimination.

BENEFITS OF WEIGHT LOSS

Weight loss, as modest as 5 to 15% of total body weight in a person who is overweight or obese, reduces the risk factors for some diseases, particularly heart disease.
Weight loss can result in lower blood pressure, lower blood sugar, and improved cholesterol levels.
A person with a Body Mass Index (BMI) above the healthy weight range* may benefit from weight loss, especially if he or she has other health risk factors, such as high blood pressure, high cholesterol, smoking, diabetes, a sedentary lifestyle, and a personal and/or family history of heart disease.

And teh Link to this site, for anyone who is interested: http://www.surgeongeneral...uences.htm



The reason this is bullshit is that they don't differentiate between cause and effect.

If a person has high blood pressure and is fat, it doesn't necessarily mean that being fat is causing them to have high blood pressure. It may be that poor lifestyle choices are causing one, the other, or both.

If you CONTROL FOR LIEFSTYLE FACTORS, as very, very few studies have because it is so difficult, most of these things go away (meaning, if you take two people who eat and exercise the same, and one is fat and the other is thin, the fat person doesn't not have a higher/younger mortality rate -- in fact, in the case of a serious illness like cancer, being overweight can increase survival rates).

Obesity will contribute to physical ailments -- apnea, arthritis -- and has a somewhat poorly understood relationship with Type II diabetes (excess body fat contributes to insulin resistance, but insulin resistance contributes to excess body fat. . . chicken or egg?). Nobody is claiming that it's ideal to be fat.

But the point is, correlation is NOT THE SAME as causation. You cannot look at my body and assume that I have all, or any, of the listed ailments. You cannot look at my body and know what my lifestyle is like.

The public is so incredibly uneducated about what statistics mean, and how research works, that information presented by the mass media is virtually useless. As far as stuff like this from government/health agencies, it's irresponsible to present stuff like this knowing about the aforementioned ignorance.


In any case, it doesn't matter. Being nasty and cruel (and yes, asserting that fat people always make themselves that way and are unhealthy "human garbage disposals" IS nasty) is never appropriate.
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Reply #187 posted 04/20/06 12:03pm

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purpledisc said:

ARTHRITIS

For every 2-pound increase in weight, the risk of developing arthritis is increased by 9 to 13%.
Symptoms of arthritis can improve with weight loss.


One of my younger family members is only 17 & already has fucked up knees from carrying all that weight around. If her body is breaking down @ 17 WTF does she have to look forward to as life goes on confused IF life goes on? sad
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Reply #188 posted 04/20/06 12:09pm

purpledisc

HereToRockYourWorld said:[quote]


The reason this is bullshit is that they don't differentiate between cause and effect.

If a person has high blood pressure and is fat, it doesn't necessarily mean that being fat is causing them to have high blood pressure. It may be that poor lifestyle choices are causing one, the other, or both.

If you CONTROL FOR LIEFSTYLE FACTORS, as very, very few studies have because it is so difficult, most of these things go away (meaning, if you take two people who eat and exercise the same, and one is fat and the other is thin, the fat person doesn't not have a higher/younger mortality rate -- in fact, in the case of a serious illness like cancer, being overweight can increase survival rates).

Obesity will contribute to physical ailments -- apnea, arthritis -- and has a somewhat poorly understood relationship with Type II diabetes (excess body fat contributes to insulin resistance, but insulin resistance contributes to excess body fat. . . chicken or egg?). Nobody is claiming that it's ideal to be fat.

But the point is, correlation is NOT THE SAME as causation. You cannot look at my body and assume that I have all, or any, of the listed ailments. You cannot look at my body and know what my lifestyle is like.

The public is so incredibly uneducated about what statistics mean, and how research works, that information presented by the mass media is virtually useless. As far as stuff like this from government/health agencies, it's irresponsible to present stuff like this knowing about the aforementioned ignorance.


In any case, it doesn't matter. Being nasty and cruel (and yes, asserting that fat people always make themselves that way and are unhealthy "human garbage disposals" IS nasty) is never appropriate.[/quote]


It was not posted to be nasty or cruel - Nor was it assuming - I hoped that it would have encouraged some of the "negative" posters on here to have a look at the site etc as there was a lot more Info. I actually put the link to the site at the bottom - Obviously I did not want to make the thread 36 pages longer.

I posted a comment earlier in the thread stating that Education of individuals is more important than the Schoolyard name calling that had begun in this thread.

I was trying to be helpful, obviously you have taken that the wrong way.

smile
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Reply #189 posted 04/20/06 12:12pm

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purpledisc said:

HereToRockYourWorld said:

I took it out to save space.



The reason this is bullshit is that they don't differentiate between cause and effect.

If a person has high blood pressure and is fat, it doesn't necessarily mean that being fat is causing them to have high blood pressure. It may be that poor lifestyle choices are causing one, the other, or both.

If you CONTROL FOR LIEFSTYLE FACTORS, as very, very few studies have because it is so difficult, most of these things go away (meaning, if you take two people who eat and exercise the same, and one is fat and the other is thin, the fat person doesn't not have a higher/younger mortality rate -- in fact, in the case of a serious illness like cancer, being overweight can increase survival rates).

Obesity will contribute to physical ailments -- apnea, arthritis -- and has a somewhat poorly understood relationship with Type II diabetes (excess body fat contributes to insulin resistance, but insulin resistance contributes to excess body fat. . . chicken or egg?). Nobody is claiming that it's ideal to be fat.

But the point is, correlation is NOT THE SAME as causation. You cannot look at my body and assume that I have all, or any, of the listed ailments. You cannot look at my body and know what my lifestyle is like.

The public is so incredibly uneducated about what statistics mean, and how research works, that information presented by the mass media is virtually useless. As far as stuff like this from government/health agencies, it's irresponsible to present stuff like this knowing about the aforementioned ignorance.


In any case, it doesn't matter. Being nasty and cruel (and yes, asserting that fat people always make themselves that way and are unhealthy "human garbage disposals" IS nasty) is never appropriate.[/quote]


It was not posted to be nasty or cruel - Nor was it assuming - I hoped that it would have encouraged some of the "negative" posters on here to have a look at the site etc as there was a lot more Info. I actually put the link to the site at the bottom - Obviously I did not want to make the thread 36 pages longer.

I posted a comment earlier in the thread stating that Education of individuals is more important than the Schoolyard name calling that had begun in this thread.

I was trying to be helpful, obviously you have taken that the wrong way.

smile



I'm not accusing you of anything, I'm responding to this in the context of the thread.

And it's really not helpful, because the info is misleading, for the reasons I stated. Though, I wish I hadn't bothered, because now if I want to follow up on it I'm going to be spending hours typing up freakin' science lessons, when my tax dollars are supposed be paying public schools for this chit. neutral

Again, this isn't directed at you specifically. . .
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Reply #190 posted 04/20/06 12:13pm

purpledisc

CalhounSq said:

purpledisc said:

ARTHRITIS

For every 2-pound increase in weight, the risk of developing arthritis is increased by 9 to 13%.
Symptoms of arthritis can improve with weight loss.


One of my younger family members is only 17 & already has fucked up knees from carrying all that weight around. If her body is breaking down @ 17 WTF does she have to look forward to as life goes on confused IF life goes on? sad



Ironically when I was 17 I was too "underweight" (Whatever that means) I have actually been underweight for 34 out of my 37 years of life !!! When I was younger I was always hyperactive, I had 3 large Paperrounds whilst at school, then I went to work on Farms and carried on doing heavy manual labour jobs which obviously helped keep me looking like a Golf Club (I have big feet!!).

The Irony of this was how I was always being told to substantially increase my body weight !! Between 15 and 34 years I always weighed 10 - 11 Stone - Now I am 15 Stone.
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Reply #191 posted 04/20/06 12:15pm

purpledisc

HereToRockYourWorld said:

purpledisc said:




The reason this is bullshit is that they don't differentiate between cause and effect.

If a person has high blood pressure and is fat, it doesn't necessarily mean that being fat is causing them to have high blood pressure. It may be that poor lifestyle choices are causing one, the other, or both.

If you CONTROL FOR LIEFSTYLE FACTORS, as very, very few studies have because it is so difficult, most of these things go away (meaning, if you take two people who eat and exercise the same, and one is fat and the other is thin, the fat person doesn't not have a higher/younger mortality rate -- in fact, in the case of a serious illness like cancer, being overweight can increase survival rates).

Obesity will contribute to physical ailments -- apnea, arthritis -- and has a somewhat poorly understood relationship with Type II diabetes (excess body fat contributes to insulin resistance, but insulin resistance contributes to excess body fat. . . chicken or egg?). Nobody is claiming that it's ideal to be fat.

But the point is, correlation is NOT THE SAME as causation. You cannot look at my body and assume that I have all, or any, of the listed ailments. You cannot look at my body and know what my lifestyle is like.

The public is so incredibly uneducated about what statistics mean, and how research works, that information presented by the mass media is virtually useless. As far as stuff like this from government/health agencies, it's irresponsible to present stuff like this knowing about the aforementioned ignorance.


In any case, it doesn't matter. Being nasty and cruel (and yes, asserting that fat people always make themselves that way and are unhealthy "human garbage disposals" IS nasty) is never appropriate.[/quote]


It was not posted to be nasty or cruel - Nor was it assuming - I hoped that it would have encouraged some of the "negative" posters on here to have a look at the site etc as there was a lot more Info. I actually put the link to the site at the bottom - Obviously I did not want to make the thread 36 pages longer.

I posted a comment earlier in the thread stating that Education of individuals is more important than the Schoolyard name calling that had begun in this thread.

I was trying to be helpful, obviously you have taken that the wrong way.

smile



I'm not accusing you of anything, I'm responding to this in the context of the thread.

And it's really not helpful, because the info is misleading, for the reasons I stated. Though, I wish I hadn't bothered, because now if I want to follow up on it I'm going to be spending hours typing up freakin' science lessons, when my tax dollars are supposed be paying public schools for this chit. neutral

Again, this isn't directed at you specifically. . .



No problem..... I obviously misread..... smile
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Reply #192 posted 04/20/06 9:33pm

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I have a friend who is about 200kg, she can't sit in a normal chair. She says she has polycystic ovary syndrome and that's why she is obese confused
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Reply #193 posted 04/20/06 9:43pm

SammiJ

XxAxX said:

SammiJ said:

like i said, skinny people = EVIL.

eek falloff

c'mon. being skinny ain't like that.

it's being able to run and run and run without having pounds of flab jiggling all over ya body!

hmph! that's my story and i'm stickin to it!
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Reply #194 posted 04/21/06 12:46am

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When i was a kid, i was a little fatty. So i know how that feelz- more humiliating than anything, but i knew all that would change eventually, so i wasn't too worried being a kid and all...i was much too preoccupied with my favourite singerz and bookz and moviez and later on Nintendo gamez! lol I never felt ugly cause i was chubby n i wasn't about to let anyone let me feel otherwise!

It isn't right to single out people for their weight- slim or large. Same thing goes for slimmer people. My mother is beautiful and she happens to be naturally slim- but she hates it. And it pisses me off why. It's cause larger women are jealous n wanna make snide remarkz about her petiteness in a negative context. THEN i get pissed off. If saying bad thingz about bigger people is bad, then the same goez for those who are slimmer, I say. Not all slimmer people see thingz through the media's portrayal of ideal body-type! And it'z cause they get a hard time too. So instead of justifying one's self by putting another down- be truly happy inside, and aim to be as healthy as you can. Why spread insecurity? There'z already enough of that to go around. Big tits, small tits, big ass, small ass- hey let's face it, everyone's ideal is different anyway, right?

Wanna know something. I once spent my time feeling so EWWW about my body- cause i was comparing mine with body typez which i thought otherz preffered! Body typez which weren't anywhere close to my own lol It was stupid, and i felt as though i was allowing myself to feel undermined. So instead over time i learnt to feel comfortable as i am! Inside and out. Not to say i don't have my bad dayz- but overall, i have grown into myself enough to be happy with the way my body lookz- and that'z cause i've come to know how it workz- what's good for it, what may be bad for it. I look to my parentz cause they are petite and tiny. That's where i came from and I totally embrace it! Damn it. lol So i encourage that to anyone out there really! It may not be easy, but once you've conquered that attitude, you can begin to focus on other more important thingz (especially if the issue isn't health- it's image!)

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Reply #195 posted 04/21/06 12:55am

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lilmissmissy said:

When i was a kid, i was a little fatty. So i know how that feelz- more humiliating than anything, but i knew all that would change eventually, so i wasn't too worried being a kid and all...i was much too preoccupied with my favourite singerz and bookz and moviez and later on Nintendo gamez! lol I never felt ugly cause i was chubby n i wasn't about to let anyone let me feel otherwise!

It isn't right to single out people for their weight- slim or large. Same thing goes for slimmer people. My mother is beautiful and she happens to be naturally slim- but she hates it. And it pisses me off why. It's cause larger women are jealous n wanna make snide remarkz about her petiteness in a negative context. THEN i get pissed off. If saying bad thingz about bigger people is bad, then the same goez for those who are slimmer, I say. Not all slimmer people see thingz through the media's portrayal of ideal body-type! And it'z cause they get a hard time too. So instead of justifying one's self by putting another down- be truly happy inside, and aim to be as healthy as you can. Why spread insecurity? There'z already enough of that to go around. Big tits, small tits, big ass, small ass- hey let's face it, everyone's ideal is different anyway, right?

Wanna know something. I once spent my time feeling so EWWW about my body- cause i was comparing mine with body typez which i thought otherz preffered! Body typez which weren't anywhere close to my own lol It was stupid, and i felt as though i was allowing myself to feel undermined. So instead over time i learnt to feel comfortable as i am! Inside and out. Not to say i don't have my bad dayz- but overall, i have grown into myself enough to be happy with the way my body lookz- and that'z cause i've come to know how it workz- what's good for it, what may be bad for it. I look to my parentz cause they are petite and tiny. That's where i came from and I totally embrace it! Damn it. lol So i encourage that to anyone out there really! It may not be easy, but once you've conquered that attitude, you can begin to focus on other more important thingz (especially if the issue isn't health- it's image!)

thumbs up!



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Reply #196 posted 04/21/06 1:07am

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Natisse said:

lilmissmissy said:

When i was a kid, i was a little fatty. So i know how that feelz- more humiliating than anything, but i knew all that would change eventually, so i wasn't too worried being a kid and all...i was much too preoccupied with my favourite singerz and bookz and moviez and later on Nintendo gamez! lol I never felt ugly cause i was chubby n i wasn't about to let anyone let me feel otherwise!

It isn't right to single out people for their weight- slim or large. Same thing goes for slimmer people. My mother is beautiful and she happens to be naturally slim- but she hates it. And it pisses me off why. It's cause larger women are jealous n wanna make snide remarkz about her petiteness in a negative context. THEN i get pissed off. If saying bad thingz about bigger people is bad, then the same goez for those who are slimmer, I say. Not all slimmer people see thingz through the media's portrayal of ideal body-type! And it'z cause they get a hard time too. So instead of justifying one's self by putting another down- be truly happy inside, and aim to be as healthy as you can. Why spread insecurity? There'z already enough of that to go around. Big tits, small tits, big ass, small ass- hey let's face it, everyone's ideal is different anyway, right?

Wanna know something. I once spent my time feeling so EWWW about my body- cause i was comparing mine with body typez which i thought otherz preffered! Body typez which weren't anywhere close to my own lol It was stupid, and i felt as though i was allowing myself to feel undermined. So instead over time i learnt to feel comfortable as i am! Inside and out. Not to say i don't have my bad dayz- but overall, i have grown into myself enough to be happy with the way my body lookz- and that'z cause i've come to know how it workz- what's good for it, what may be bad for it. I look to my parentz cause they are petite and tiny. That's where i came from and I totally embrace it! Damn it. lol So i encourage that to anyone out there really! It may not be easy, but once you've conquered that attitude, you can begin to focus on other more important thingz (especially if the issue isn't health- it's image!)

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Reply #197 posted 04/21/06 3:45am

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SammiJ said:

XxAxX said:


eek falloff

c'mon. being skinny ain't like that.

it's being able to run and run and run without having pounds of flab jiggling all over ya body!

hmph! that's my story and i'm stickin to it!
skinny people are EEEEEVILL!!! stab



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Reply #198 posted 04/21/06 4:34am

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charlottegelin said:

I have a friend who is about 200kg, she can't sit in a normal chair. She says she has polycystic ovary syndrome and that's why she is obese confused



my uncle is morbidly obese. he has circulation trouble and regards a flight of eight stairs as a real challenge which he may or may not be able to rise to.

he missed out on hiking around the anasazi ruins and climbing the hills because he'd never have made it. not a chance. i felt so sorry for him but there's nothing i can say or do to change his mind. he prefers to wear so much fat he's immobile. confused
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Reply #199 posted 04/21/06 4:56am

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XxAxX said:

charlottegelin said:

I have a friend who is about 200kg, she can't sit in a normal chair. She says she has polycystic ovary syndrome and that's why she is obese confused



my uncle is morbidly obese. he has circulation trouble and regards a flight of eight stairs as a real challenge which he may or may not be able to rise to.

he missed out on hiking around the anasazi ruins and climbing the hills because he'd never have made it. not a chance. i felt so sorry for him but there's nothing i can say or do to change his mind. he prefers to wear so much fat he's immobile. confused



I saw them on TV the other night, Beautiful - I would love to see them for real.

I had a friend who was obese and he suffered with Sleep Apnea, in the end he had to go to bed at night and wear oxygen tubes in his nose to help him sleep properly - This prevented him falling asleep at random intervals.
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Reply #200 posted 04/21/06 9:04am

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purpledisc said:

SammiJ said:


hmph! that's my story and i'm stickin to it!
skinny people are EEEEEVILL!!! stab



I am sorta Skinny - But I ain't Evil sad

well not to every one personally
it's kinda like that whole a person can be smart but people are stupid type thing nod




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Reply #201 posted 04/21/06 9:06am

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charlottegelin said:

I have a friend who is about 200kg, she can't sit in a normal chair. She says she has polycystic ovary syndrome and that's why she is obese confused


I have polycystic ovary syndrome too. It sucks. I feel sorry for your friend. . . thank gawd I'm not anywhere near THAT heavy. . . it would be awful.
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Reply #202 posted 04/21/06 9:24am

purpledisc

SammiJ said:

purpledisc said:




I am sorta Skinny - But I ain't Evil sad

well not to every one personally
it's kinda like that whole a person can be smart but people are stupid type thing nod




stab



So now I am Stupid !!!!! lol (Kidding)
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Reply #203 posted 04/21/06 7:06pm

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HereToRockYourWorld said:

charlottegelin said:

I have a friend who is about 200kg, she can't sit in a normal chair. She says she has polycystic ovary syndrome and that's why she is obese confused


I have polycystic ovary syndrome too. It sucks. I feel sorry for your friend. . . thank gawd I'm not anywhere near THAT heavy. . . it would be awful.

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the weird thing is my friend managed to have a child - even at that weight! without complications during the pregnancy.
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