Rebeccas said:

You are so full of shit. Your thread is bait. Oh, and didn't you say you were leaving this thread twnenty posts up?

Imago said:

All due respect Dan, what bearing does people being fat have to do with the way you live your life?

Is this Rebecca the "Oceana"/Sanddollar Rebecca who was banned and then made an appearance here a few weeks ago?

AnotherLoverToo said:

Yes.

sag10 said:

Dang it, I will! (Thanks, honey)

Romera said:

DAMN!

LOL

applekisses said:

Oh, honey, that's scary.

Rebeccas said:

No, you're ignoring dissenting opinion because you don't care about the truth, only about justifying the hateful crap on this thread.

HereToRockYourWorld said:

It was...I was very sick. I'm so much healthier now and it's funny because the judgemental may look at me and assume all sorts of things about me...the truth is I can run circles around them.

applekisses said:

Yeah, knowing that people were looking at me and assuming things that were untrue used to bug me. I've mostly let go of that, though I still find it a little hard to eat in public. . . even if it's a fucking carrot stick, 'cause then I figure people think, "good for the fatty to be on a diet finally ".

But I've gotten over worrying about being attractive. I have to give props to Matt for helping me with that, actually. I had come a long way when I met him, but his great attitude about my body put some nagging voices to rest.

Rebeccas said:

ok let's turn the tables a bit....

what if the parents were obese and the child was skinny? I mean noticeably skinny? would you still hate on the parents?

another
what if the child was obese and the parents were rail model thin? what then?

see it's like this
I was that Rail skinny kid---I ate horribly very few veggies carbs and cake and candies BUT my metabolism was fast, very fast so fast in fact that at 23 when I got pregnant with my daughter I was 113 lbs, my doctor told me to gain 25 pounds and then he'd count the other weight gain as "baby weight"
in my family I was made fun of because I was sooo skinny, everyone implored me to eat.

I was screwable but most still lamented my thinness. Then my metabolism slowed down...ok it stopped when I was 26.

so I am on the other team now and basically I am happier being big. I don't diet, no yo yo for me, I eat what I want when I want it in moderation. oh yeah and I am scewable too.

BUT it does bother me that there are people here who still fall into the "acceptable to be hateful to big/fat/obese people" mind set. All in the name of health ( cues the angelic voices here), regardless of cultural, familial, person's own choices, ..consideration.

that truly saddens me.

I saw Phat Girls on saturday..with my girls and we all talked about it and basically we all came away with the message, love yourself in your own skin, not in the one that others want you to be in. I applaud Mo'nique! she is happy in her skin and she shared it with the world. If you can find no relevance in that message then...
step aside and make a way for those who want to know

I worry about my 15 year old niece. I worry about her because she wears clothes 3 sizes larger than my own, and I'm not a small person. And you know what? I'm not worried about her physical health, I'm worried about her mental health. I'm worried cause of all the fucked up things folks on this thread have said. And cause I know what she goes through every damn day of her life.

CarrieMpls said:

to her and you.

CarrieMpls said:

butterfli25 said:

You so incredibly rawk!!!

Romera said:

I agree...and that's why I'll never have kids cuz I don't want to deal with them!! But the reality is that people are having kids and not taking care of them properly! It's sad, very sad.

Thanks romera and butterfli25. I mean, she's such a good kid. And she's got a good attitude. Heck, she's been in a few fashion shows already, which I'd never have felt comfortable doing at her age.
But I know what the constant reminders, stares, teasing, and just general ill will can do to a child.

Romera said:

thank you so do you rawk on wit yo badd self..

CalhounSq said:

Diddo!

Several people are scoffing at what they term "fat acceptance" or "forcing fatness down people's throats", but I think what larger people really want is just not to be emotionally abused, harrassed or made to feel nasty. What's so wrong about that?

nothing, nothing at all










I like that sig, it made me think

AnotherLoverToo said:

There is zero wrong with that.

HereToRockYourWorld said:

That's wonderful
The thing is that I'm not really "fat" but, just a big woman...I'm tall with a large frame, boobs and hips and a bit of a tummy...but, I've got good muscle tone, and an hourglass figure. People are so afraid of "fat" that they assume you are even if you're just big.

Everyone's fat but me, Americans say in poll
Survey finds most underestimate their weight, overestimate height

WASHINGTON - Ninety percent of Americans know that most of their compatriots are overweight, but just 40 percent believe themselves to be too fat, according to a study published Tuesday.

Government statistics show that more than 60 percent of the U.S. population is overweight, and half is obese, meaning they are at serious risk of health effects from their weight.

But the Pew Research Center telephone survey of more than 2,000 adults found that many people overestimate how tall they are and underestimate how much they weigh — and thus do not rate themselves as overweight, even when they are.
"The survey finds that most Americans, including those who say they are overweight, agree that personal behavior — rather than genetic disposition or marketing by food companies — is the main reason people are overweight," Pew says in the report, published on the Internet.

"In particular, the public says that a failure to get enough exercise is the most important reason, followed by a lack of willpower about what to eat. About half the public also says that the kinds of foods marketed at restaurants and grocery stores are a very important cause, and roughly a third say the same about the effect of genetics and heredity."

Americans giving up on diets?
And at least some people appear to have given up on dieting to control their weight, the survey found. "One in four respondents in our survey say they are currently dieting, and roughly half (52 percent) say they have dieted at some point in their lives. In a poll taken 15 years ago, the percentage of adults who reported having ever dieted was slightly higher — 57 percent," the report reads.

The adults polled were asked how tall they are and how much they weigh. Doctors and researchers around the world use a ration of height to weight called body mass index to calculate if someone is obese or overweight.

The women reported they weighed a median of 150 pounds and had a median height of 5 feet five inches, which would put them just barely on the borderline of being overweight.

But national statistics indicate that U.S. women in fact have a median weight of 155 pounds and are only 5 feet 4 inches tall, which puts them squarely into the overweight column.

"As for men, well, they give themselves even more phantom height than women do — two extra inches," the report reads. "The self-reported median height of men in the Pew survey is 5 feet 11 inches, compared with 5 feet 9 inches in the government survey."

Those surveyed agreed that maintaining a healthy weight is important.
"Virtually everyone agrees that a person's weight has an impact on the chances for a long and healthy life," the report reads.

"More than nine-in-ten (91 percent) believe that weight has an impact on attractiveness, either a little (35 percent) or a lot (56 percent)."
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12271581/

applekisses said:

You sound like a hottie.

Romera said:

Ok, is your name Monique? If not, I suggest you not assume that I was talking to you and/or about you.

Thanks.

And for the record, I did not say that people should not have pride in themselves. I said that celebrating/taking pride in the fact that one is obese and yes, unhealthy is very sad. One should be concerned, not happy.

In response to all those people who said that it's no one's business but the parents of an obese kid: in the country I live in obesity is everyone's problem because we all end up paying for it thru medicare, e.g. - diabetes and heart disease treatment. The same goes for those who smoke. A little healthy living goes a long way, prevention is key.

I don't get all the hositilty towards the people in here who are not just saying 'it's ok to be fat'. It's a health issue, not a body image issue, imo. I'm not name calling or anything and I was talking specifically about Monique because she is on a campaign for "fat acceptance". I think rail thin models and the 'ideal' being rammed down our throats by the media are just as harmful because it too is not healthy.

I'm not trying to offend anyone.

CarrieMpls said:

It's a valid worry. People who haven't been through it cannot begin to imagine the horrors of growing up a fat girl.

And it's not just other kids. See, if teachers didn't share our cultural hatred of fat people, they would NEVER let kids get away with what they do at school. Adult complacency -- and sometimes participation -- is the real problem. I know all kids get teased, but they don't all get emotionally brutalized.

JustErin said:

ok I mis read your statement about Monique too, but as far as I know she is not an orger and doesn't visit the org so my bad. I saw the word YOU and thought it applied to me and others who are here. again my bad.
Also, the message that I get from monique is: be happy to be you have pride in you and who you are. so people who are fat/obese can't be proud of who they are? their weight and body style overrides anything else they proclaim to be? they can't be happy? I need some clarification on this point.

medicare pays for old people too? is there prevention for age? are you concerned about paying for them too? or is that only if they have no health issues that you deem are preventable and are non smokers. Oh and obese/fat/smoking people who are tax payers shouldn't get the benefit of these services because you again deem them unacceptable because its preventable, Oh what about the people with AIDS? a condom or a decent blood screening test or a lifestyle change could have prevented them from contracting HIV also....

as for hostility...well yeah re reading this I guess I am a bit hostile because I don't get the reason behind the notion that fat/obese people like the way they are anyway, if that were the case then there would be no need for anyone to talk about self acceptance. But society has made sure that they never forget that being big is unhealthy and oh nevermind that all the tests ( cholesterol, blood sugar, blood pressure) come back fine you are unhealthy if you are BIG.

Monique has dealt with SELF LOATHING all of her life and now when she is encouraging others to release that and move on you throw stones? I hope and pray her message continues to take hold so WE fat/obese people can enjoy having pride in ourselves regardless of the lifestyle changes others think we can embrace.
Prevention, yeah ignorance is preventable too, sad that so many do not take advantage of that.

I am not trying to offend anyone either.

butterfli25 said:

You said it much better than I would have.