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Reply #60 posted 04/18/06 10:17am

Rebeccas

sag10 said:

Rebeccas said:




For your information, "spanking" is not considered child abuse. Leaving your kids alone for "a few moments" is not considered child abuse.



Oh yes it is!



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Reply #61 posted 04/18/06 10:17am

Rebeccas

NewPowerSoulSista said:

Rebeccas said:

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sad


Sad!

I saw this kid today, at least 100 lbs and only 8 years old. I asked his parents his age. It was sad.

Both parents over-weight, but the child, there is no reason in this. I can't understand.
I think a parent who allows this is in some way abusing their child.


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I feel like it is a form of abuse too...at the very least, it's a form of neglect.
But at the same time I do realize how hard it is to break old habits. If the parents are use to years and years of overeating it may be hard to adopt a healthy lifestyle for their children.
Hard, but not impossible.



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Reply #62 posted 04/18/06 10:20am

Romera

Rebeccas said:

Romera said:

If there were a camera on you 24 hours a day, would anything you do with your kids be considered child abuse? If it be a spanking, or leaving a kid alone for a few moments, every parent does something that they shouldn't do.



For your information, "spanking" is not considered child abuse. Leaving your kids alone for "a few moments" is not considered child abuse.
Ever leave a mark on a kid while spanking? Ever leave a child under 14 years old home alone?

Think the police or child protective services won't come out to your house if your kid says you beat him or her?

The point I was trying to make is that no parent is perfect and while you sit back and point your finger at someone, are you a prefect parent?

And damn, when am I gonna get an answer from the mods about why some banned Orgers get to come back and other don't? hmmm
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Reply #63 posted 04/18/06 10:24am

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Romera said:

Rebeccas said:




For your information, "spanking" is not considered child abuse. Leaving your kids alone for "a few moments" is not considered child abuse.
Ever leave a mark on a kid while spanking? Ever leave a child under 14 years old home alone?

Think the police or child protective services won't come out to your house if your kid says you beat him or her?

The point I was trying to make is that no parent is perfect and while you sit back and point your finger at someone, are you a prefect parent?

And damn, when am I gonna get an answer from the mods about why some banned Orgers get to come back and other don't? hmmm




I personally have never left my child alone before 14, and those who break the law should have to answer to it.

I have never left a mark on my child and those who do such thing should take anger control management..

About your answer from the mods, who knows? Maybe you should go to the npgmc and ask why they don't unban all the banned npgmc members lol ..But thats another topic. Has nothing to do with this one. wink
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Reply #64 posted 04/18/06 10:29am

Romera

Rebeccas said:

Romera said:

Ever leave a mark on a kid while spanking? Ever leave a child under 14 years old home alone?

Think the police or child protective services won't come out to your house if your kid says you beat him or her?

The point I was trying to make is that no parent is perfect and while you sit back and point your finger at someone, are you a prefect parent?

And damn, when am I gonna get an answer from the mods about why some banned Orgers get to come back and other don't? hmmm




I personally have never left my child alone before 14, and those who break the law should have to answer to it.

I have never left a mark on my child and those who do such thing should take anger control management..

About your answer from the mods, who knows? Maybe you should go to the npgmc and ask why they don't unban all the banned npgmc members lol ..But thats another topic. Has nothing to do with this one. wink
Maybe because I believe the majority of permanently banned NPGMC members should stay banned?

And, speaking of being off topic, if you don't have an overwieght kid, what business is it of yours that someone else does?
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Reply #65 posted 04/18/06 10:30am

CarrieLee

Whatever, kids are out of control these days. They sit in front of the tv playing video games and eating junk instead of going outside to play. Granted, some places aren't safe for kids to play anymore and that's sad. But I think there are some very lazy parents out there too, who would rather give Johnny a twinkie and a video game then get out and play with him.

And how come kids aren't scared of their parents anymore? I know I wouldn't mouth off unless I was expecting a beat down to come right after it. Parents should be able to spank their kids, they shouldn't have to listen to their 10 yr olds tell them they are calling DSS because they were being an asshole and getting disciplined.

OF COURSE THIS DOES NOT APPLY TO EVERYONE! But let's face it, there's a lot of situations like this. It's disgusting.
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Reply #66 posted 04/18/06 10:33am

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CarrieLee said:

Granted, some places aren't safe for kids to play anymore and that's sad. But I think there are some very lazy parents out there too, who would rather give Johnny a twinkie and a video game then get out and play with him.





Sad but true!
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Reply #67 posted 04/18/06 10:33am

Romera

CarrieLee said:

Whatever, kids are out of control these days. They sit in front of the tv playing video games and eating junk instead of going outside to play. Granted, some places aren't safe for kids to play anymore and that's sad. But I think there are some very lazy parents out there too, who would rather give Johnny a twinkie and a video game then get out and play with him.

And how come kids aren't scared of their parents anymore? I know I wouldn't mouth off unless I was expecting a beat down to come right after it. Parents should be able to spank their kids, they shouldn't have to listen to their 10 yr olds tell them they are calling DSS because they were being an asshole and getting disciplined.

OF COURSE THIS DOES NOT APPLY TO EVERYONE! But let's face it, there's a lot of situations like this. It's disgusting.
The only thing people can do about this is to make sure they don't raise their kids like that. I just don't believe in passing judgement in most situations. At the end of the day, we all do stuff that is fucked up in some form or fashion.
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Reply #68 posted 04/18/06 10:35am

Rebeccas

Romera said:

Rebeccas said:





I personally have never left my child alone before 14, and those who break the law should have to answer to it.

I have never left a mark on my child and those who do such thing should take anger control management..

About your answer from the mods, who knows? Maybe you should go to the npgmc and ask why they don't unban all the banned npgmc members lol ..But thats another topic. Has nothing to do with this one. wink
Maybe because I believe the majority of permanently banned NPGMC members should stay banned?

And, speaking of being off topic, if you don't have an overwieght kid, what business is it of yours that someone else does?



Yes, I see you "believe" alot lol . you go there saying things about orgers, you come here trying to dictate who should or shouldn't be. Just ignore those you don't want back here and move on already. Life is to short, don't stress yourself honey smile

And, I CAN care for children if I so choose wink






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Reply #69 posted 04/18/06 10:42am

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Rebeccas said:

Romera said:

Maybe because I believe the majority of permanently banned NPGMC members should stay banned?

And, speaking of being off topic, if you don't have an overwieght kid, what business is it of yours that someone else does?



Yes, I see you "think" alot lol . you go there saying things about orgers, you come here trying to dictate who should or shouldn't. Just ignore those you don't want back here and move on already. Life is to short, don't stress yourself out honey smile

And, I CAN care for children if I so chose wink



I didn't realize that talking out of one's ass qualified as "caring for children." hmmm
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Reply #70 posted 04/18/06 10:43am

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HereToRockYourWorld said:

Rebeccas said:




Yes, I see you "think" alot lol . you go there saying things about orgers, you come here trying to dictate who should or shouldn't. Just ignore those you don't want back here and move on already. Life is to short, don't stress yourself out honey smile

And, I CAN care for children if I so chose wink



I didn't realize that talking out of one's ass qualified as "caring for children." hmmm



Thats your opinion and you are intitled to it. But the majority of people who posted here believe almost the same thing. So I gues, MOST are talking out of their ass lol ..

Anyway, moving on smile
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Reply #71 posted 04/18/06 10:45am

Romera

Rebeccas said:

Romera said:

Maybe because I believe the majority of permanently banned NPGMC members should stay banned?

And, speaking of being off topic, if you don't have an overwieght kid, what business is it of yours that someone else does?



Yes, I see you "think" alot lol . you go there saying things about orgers, you come here trying to dictate who should or shouldn't. Just ignore those you don't want back here and move on already. Life is to short, don't stress yourself out honey smile

And, I CAN care for children if I so chose wink
spit Which Orgers do I talk about? Ones being called out on bullshit? Ones playing victim on other sites? Yeah, I do. Much like what you do with the ones you have issues with. And for the record, I refuse to ignore the ones back if there is a policy on the site that says one thing and another thing is done.

And you don't care about those children. lol
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Reply #72 posted 04/18/06 10:46am

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Rebeccas said:

HereToRockYourWorld said:




I didn't realize that talking out of one's ass qualified as "caring for children." hmmm



Thats your opinion and you are intitled to it. But the majority of people who posted here believe almost the same thing. So I gues, MOST are talking out of their ass lol ..

Anyway, moving on smile



Oh, was that out loud? My bad.

The majority of people being ignorant about something but still voicing an opinion? Shocking.
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Reply #73 posted 04/18/06 10:46am

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As I said, MOVING on. smile
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Reply #74 posted 04/18/06 10:47am

Romera

HereToRockYourWorld said:

Rebeccas said:




Yes, I see you "think" alot lol . you go there saying things about orgers, you come here trying to dictate who should or shouldn't. Just ignore those you don't want back here and move on already. Life is to short, don't stress yourself out honey smile

And, I CAN care for children if I so chose wink



I didn't realize that talking out of one's ass qualified as "caring for children." hmmm
At the very least, it's a generalization about people. nod
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Reply #75 posted 04/18/06 10:48am

Anx

i was a fat kid...excuse me, "husky"...and it was totally because of junk food and television. i would go through a box of little debbies like it was a breath mint and i cold easily polish off a gallon of milk in one day. don't get me started on soda. plus i ate meat and fast food when i was a kid, and i was gobbling mickey d's, wendy's, hardee's and all that stuff at LEAST three times a week. and on fridays we always went to a steak house. lol

when i became a teenager, my mom started getting a little more into healthy foods, though we still ate our fair share of crap. but we had stuff like homemade falafel and veggieburgers, and ate more chicken and fish than red meat. i dropped a lot of weight, but i still had a bit of the blump going on. it wasn't until i went veg in college that i really started to lose the baby fat and not feel like a "fat kid" anymore.

...though the body image never goes away. i can remember what it felt like to look like the michelin boy just like it was yesterday. i wish my mom would have made better decisions when i was a kid, but i was left to my own devices on how to live on a lot of levels, and in adult life, i found out what works for me and makes me feel good in my skin.

*** and let me just add, i'm not trying to be "size-ist" or self-loathing when i talk about body image or being happier as a smaller person. it's just that this is the size and weight i think i am supposed to be. i know other people are larger and feel great. when people radiate that, it shows, and i think it's awesome. but i didn't grow up healthy. too much crap. no exercise. not good. amen.
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Reply #76 posted 04/18/06 10:50am

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Anx said:

i was a fat kid...excuse me, "husky"...and it was totally because of junk food and television. i would go through a box of little debbies like it was a breath mint and i cold easily polish off a gallon of milk in one day. don't get me started on soda. plus i ate meat and fast food when i was a kid, and i was gobbling mickey d's, wendy's, hardee's and all that stuff at LEAST three times a week. and on fridays we always went to a steak house. lol

when i became a teenager, my mom started getting a little more into healthy foods, though we still ate our fair share of crap. but we had stuff like homemade falafel and veggieburgers, and ate more chicken and fish than red meat. i dropped a lot of weight, but i still had a bit of the blump going on. it wasn't until i went veg in college that i really started to lose the baby fat and not feel like a "fat kid" anymore.

...though the body image never goes away. i can remember what it felt like to look like the michelin boy just like it was yesterday. i wish my mom would have made better decisions when i was a kid, but i was left to my own devices on how to live on a lot of levels, and in adult life, i found out what works for me and makes me feel good in my skin.


cool ..


and thats all i'm saying
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Reply #77 posted 04/18/06 10:50am

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As I said, MOVING on. smile



'Cause you said so? Is that how this BBS thing works? confuse
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Reply #78 posted 04/18/06 10:51am

Romera

Anx said:

i was a fat kid...excuse me, "husky"...and it was totally because of junk food and television. i would go through a box of little debbies like it was a breath mint and i cold easily polish off a gallon of milk in one day. don't get me started on soda. plus i ate meat and fast food when i was a kid, and i was gobbling mickey d's, wendy's, hardee's and all that stuff at LEAST three times a week. and on fridays we always went to a steak house. lol

when i became a teenager, my mom started getting a little more into healthy foods, though we still ate our fair share of crap. but we had stuff like homemade falafel and veggieburgers, and ate more chicken and fish than red meat. i dropped a lot of weight, but i still had a bit of the blump going on. it wasn't until i went veg in college that i really started to lose the baby fat and not feel like a "fat kid" anymore.

...though the body image never goes away. i can remember what it felt like to look like the michelin boy just like it was yesterday. i wish my mom would have made better decisions when i was a kid, but i was left to my own devices on how to live on a lot of levels, and in adult life, i found out what works for me and makes me feel good in my skin.
nod If I get to be 300 lbs. and love it, live healthy and don't complain about it, other people should mind their damn business as long as it does not effect them.
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Reply #79 posted 04/18/06 10:51am

Rebeccas

And also, there are parents who don't feed their children, especially daughters because they don't want them to get fat. These girls/children grow up with eating disorders as well, and also, that would be child abuse.
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Reply #80 posted 04/18/06 10:52am

unlucky7

I saw a small kid, maybe around 10 or 11 he was overweight and had a cane....this guy was staring at him sooo hard, like "eww...look at that kid"...so rude, I would say it's the parents fault some times.
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Reply #81 posted 04/18/06 10:52am

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HereToRockYourWorld said:

Rebeccas said:

As I said, MOVING on. smile



'Cause you said so? Is that how this BBS thing works? confuse


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Reply #82 posted 04/18/06 10:52am

uPtoWnNY

JustErin said:

gemini13 said:

GOD I HATE THIS SHIT and I know this won't make me popular...

I don't mean to be blunt, and I don't mean to hurt anyone's feelings, but I am SO SICK of "big" people justifying their size, and being overly sensitive about the truth, and then bashing someone for pointing it out. K...here we go. Go look up a healthy weight chart. If you fall into the overweight or obese categories based on height and weight, or BMI, you are unhealthy and have a higher mortality rate....PERIOD.

You may not like it or want to accept, because believe me, been there, done that.....but the simple FACT is that it is unhealthy.


Sorry.


Exactly. Monique is not overweight, she's obese. Obese acceptance/pride is pathetic. You are celebrating a horrible, unhealthy lifestyle. I think people who push fat acceptance down everyone's throats are trying to convince themselves, more than anyone else, that they are "beautiful" or "healthy".

Being a little overweight does not make you unhealthy at all (unless it's all around your midsection) nor does it make you unattractive. People who carry their extra pounds evenly can look great.


Co-sign. Folks like Monique are only deluding themselves. Now we all have free choice. If you want to be a human garbage disposal and not give a sh!t about staying fit, fine - it's your life. But don't expect me to buy this "fat acceptance" B.S.
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Reply #83 posted 04/18/06 10:55am

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Anx said:

i was a fat kid...excuse me, "husky"...and it was totally because of junk food and television. i would go through a box of little debbies like it was a breath mint and i cold easily polish off a gallon of milk in one day. don't get me started on soda. plus i ate meat and fast food when i was a kid, and i was gobbling mickey d's, wendy's, hardee's and all that stuff at LEAST three times a week. and on fridays we always went to a steak house. lol

when i became a teenager, my mom started getting a little more into healthy foods, though we still ate our fair share of crap. but we had stuff like homemade falafel and veggieburgers, and ate more chicken and fish than red meat. i dropped a lot of weight, but i still had a bit of the blump going on. it wasn't until i went veg in college that i really started to lose the baby fat and not feel like a "fat kid" anymore.

...though the body image never goes away. i can remember what it felt like to look like the michelin boy just like it was yesterday. i wish my mom would have made better decisions when i was a kid, but i was left to my own devices on how to live on a lot of levels, and in adult life, i found out what works for me and makes me feel good in my skin.



I was a fat kid who certainly liked junk food, but my parents set firm limits on how much of it I was allowed to eat. I ate healthier than most (all?) of my friends.

Now I'm a fat adult who eats less, and vastly healthier, than most skinny adults I know.

I don't deny that some people are pudgy 'cause of what they eat. Of course that's true. Sounds like you were a good example of that, and it sounds like you didn't have to do anything drastic to lose the weight. Which is typical of people who have a lifestyle problem more than a genetic problem.

But the thing is, you can't tell who is coping with what by looking at them. I didn't get teased any less than the twinkie-scarfer next to me when I was a kid. Which is why I wish the fools on this thread would stop being so damn judgemental.
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Reply #84 posted 04/18/06 10:56am

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uPtoWnNY said:


Co-sign. Folks like Monique are only deluding themselves. Now we all have free choice. If you want to be a human garbage disposal and not give a sh!t about staying fit, fine - it's your life. But don't expect me to buy this "fat acceptance" B.S.


how is the way a person chooses to conduct his or her health the business of anyone else? all those anorexic models are taking a faster track to the graveyard, but that's okay because they look screwable by popular standards.

when i see a large person, i know better to assume it's because they're lazy or because they're gluttonous or because they're just "jolly" or whateverthefuck. it CAN be a glandular/genetic condition. it can be a LOT of things. it's presumptuous to judge someone just because of what their body looks like. for shame. big people deal with enough shit every day.
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Reply #85 posted 04/18/06 10:57am

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unlucky7 said:

I saw a small kid, maybe around 10 or 11 he was overweight and had a cane....this guy was staring at him sooo hard, like "eww...look at that kid"...so rude, I would say it's the parents fault some times.
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Well, where I work i'm around alot of children. It's not like I was staring, because I see this all to often. I love children and I ALWAYs ask how old the child is, especially babies because they are so cute. cool

And you are right, it's not at all the fault of the child but the parents fault. Well, most of the time anyway. I do believe some are from medical conditions and this is usually when you see the parents looking more healthy. But when the parents are big/fat and so is the child, more than likely it's not a medical condition.
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Reply #86 posted 04/18/06 10:57am

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uPtoWnNY said:

JustErin said:



Exactly. Monique is not overweight, she's obese. Obese acceptance/pride is pathetic. You are celebrating a horrible, unhealthy lifestyle. I think people who push fat acceptance down everyone's throats are trying to convince themselves, more than anyone else, that they are "beautiful" or "healthy".

Being a little overweight does not make you unhealthy at all (unless it's all around your midsection) nor does it make you unattractive. People who carry their extra pounds evenly can look great.


Co-sign. Folks like Monique are only deluding themselves. Now we all have free choice. If you want to be a human garbage disposal and not give a sh!t about staying fit, fine - it's your life. But don't expect me to buy this "fat acceptance" B.S.



"Human garbage disposal". . . right. . . see, this hateful assumption is BS, and you're going around looking down on people without knowing what the hell you're talking about.
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Reply #87 posted 04/18/06 10:58am

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Anx said:

uPtoWnNY said:


Co-sign. Folks like Monique are only deluding themselves. Now we all have free choice. If you want to be a human garbage disposal and not give a sh!t about staying fit, fine - it's your life. But don't expect me to buy this "fat acceptance" B.S.


how is the way a person chooses to conduct his or her health the business of anyone else? all those anorexic models are taking a faster track to the graveyard, but that's okay because they look screwable by popular standards.

when i see a large person, i know better to assume it's because they're lazy or because they're gluttonous or because they're just "jolly" or whateverthefuck. it CAN be a glandular/genetic condition. it can be a LOT of things. it's presumptuous to judge someone just because of what their body looks like. for shame. big people deal with enough shit every day.
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Reply #88 posted 04/18/06 10:59am

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Rebeccas said:

unlucky7 said:

I saw a small kid, maybe around 10 or 11 he was overweight and had a cane....this guy was staring at him sooo hard, like "eww...look at that kid"...so rude, I would say it's the parents fault some times.
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Well, where I work i'm around alot of children. It's not like I was staring, because I see this all to often. I love children and I ALWAYs ask how old the child is, especially babies because they are so cute. cool

And you are right, it's not at all the fault of the child but the parents fault. Well, most of the time anyway. I do believe some are from medical conditions and this is usually when you see the parents looking more healthy. But when the parents are big/fat and so is the child, more than likely it's not a medical condition.


This just shows your ignorance. If there is a genetic issue in play, you would EXPECT the parents to be fat as well. rolleyes
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Reply #89 posted 04/18/06 10:59am

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Romera said:

Anx said:



how is the way a person chooses to conduct his or her health the business of anyone else? all those anorexic models are taking a faster track to the graveyard, but that's okay because they look screwable by popular standards.

when i see a large person, i know better to assume it's because they're lazy or because they're gluttonous or because they're just "jolly" or whateverthefuck. it CAN be a glandular/genetic condition. it can be a LOT of things. it's presumptuous to judge someone just because of what their body looks like. for shame. big people deal with enough shit every day.
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Co-sign. rose
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