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Reply #90 posted 04/12/06 5:11am

shanti0608

Rebeccas said:

shanti0608 said:




Aww- that is the sweetest thing I have ever heard!!!!
lol



Very sweet and so manly to admit. cool ..


I agree! I love that in a man!!
Go Byron- you are awesome hug
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Reply #91 posted 04/12/06 10:23am

SupaFunkyOrgan
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Rebeccas said:

shanti0608 said:




Aww- that is the sweetest thing I have ever heard!!!!
lol



Very sweet and so manly to admit. cool ..


It's a pickup line ladies shhh

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Reply #92 posted 04/12/06 7:21pm

shanti0608

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Rebeccas said:




Very sweet and so manly to admit. cool ..


It's a pickup line ladies shhh

razz



Kind of what I figured!!!
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Reply #93 posted 04/12/06 8:16pm

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HobbesLeCute said:

I have fathered thirteen children, all of which were born on the same day.

When they hit age ten, their training will be complete, and they will form a secret assassin squad called "The Baker's Dozen." This has been my goal, my dream, since young times.

Can I get a donut with that dozen?
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Reply #94 posted 04/13/06 9:58am

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Romera said:

Oh so much to say, particularly to the folks on this thread who don't have kids but I won't. lol

But to the person that started this thread, having a child, planned or not, is a conscious choice. Choosing a raise a child alone is a bitch. Be grateful to God, Buddha, SpongeBob that your child is healthy. She'll one day be old enough to leave home and you'll be able to go and live your life. Then you'll miss her and wish she was a little girl who wouldn't give you two seconds to breathe.

Me, I have a child who is disabled and will live with me for the rest of my life. My kids were not planned but they in no way kill my life.



Your son is really lucky that you're his mom. hug
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Reply #95 posted 04/13/06 10:43am

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HereToRockYourWorld said:

Romera said:

Oh so much to say, particularly to the folks on this thread who don't have kids but I won't. lol

But to the person that started this thread, having a child, planned or not, is a conscious choice. Choosing a raise a child alone is a bitch. Be grateful to God, Buddha, SpongeBob that your child is healthy. She'll one day be old enough to leave home and you'll be able to go and live your life. Then you'll miss her and wish she was a little girl who wouldn't give you two seconds to breathe.

Me, I have a child who is disabled and will live with me for the rest of my life. My kids were not planned but they in no way kill my life.



Your son is really lucky that you're his mom. hug

nod and we are so blessed to be able to call this woman our friend nod
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Reply #96 posted 04/13/06 8:59pm

alwayslate

Romera said:

Oh so much to say, particularly to the folks on this thread who don't have kids but I won't. lol

But to the person that started this thread, having a child, planned or not, is a conscious choice. Choosing a raise a child alone is a bitch. Be grateful to God, Buddha, SpongeBob that your child is healthy. She'll one day be old enough to leave home and you'll be able to go and live your life. Then you'll miss her and wish she was a little girl who wouldn't give you two seconds to breathe.

Me, I have a child who is disabled and will live with me for the rest of my life. My kids were not planned but they in no way kill my life.


1. My son was not planned either. And I did not "choose" to have a baby by myself or to have to raise him alone. My son's father is dead. I didn't kill him. That was not my choice.

Perhaps if he'd lived, I would have time for a life of my own. Everything I do is for my son. That is my job. I do it every day, without complaint 99% of the time. And I love my son. He is a person who has needs that must be met by mom (me). and while I would rather not wait until my son is an adult to be able to do things that I would like to do, I will wait, because I am his mother and that is what I am supposed to do right? sacrifice the things that made me happy for the sake of my boy. BUT, I don't have to like it and no one can judge me if I don't.

And I dare any mother (MOTHER) young or old to tell me that she never ever wants to be alone for a minute. or go to a salon to relax. or take in movie that stars ADULTS. I know there are mothers that feel like their needs don't matter to anyone. And the world at large believes that mothers (especially unmarried ones) are selfish just for wanting a moment to themselves once in awhile. It is an abomination for a mommie to want to get the hell away from their child sometimes. Nobody raises their eyebrows at daddies that have these feelings. Daddies aren't even expected to do the things that would bring someone to the point where they want desperately to get away.

I am just saying to mothers who know where I am coming from that you
are not bad moms just because you remember that you are a person with needs, too.
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Reply #97 posted 04/13/06 9:18pm

Romera

alwayslate said:

Romera said:

Oh so much to say, particularly to the folks on this thread who don't have kids but I won't. lol

But to the person that started this thread, having a child, planned or not, is a conscious choice. Choosing a raise a child alone is a bitch. Be grateful to God, Buddha, SpongeBob that your child is healthy. She'll one day be old enough to leave home and you'll be able to go and live your life. Then you'll miss her and wish she was a little girl who wouldn't give you two seconds to breathe.

Me, I have a child who is disabled and will live with me for the rest of my life. My kids were not planned but they in no way kill my life.


1. My son was not planned either. And I did not "choose" to have a baby by myself or to have to raise him alone. My son's father is dead. I didn't kill him. That was not my choice.

Perhaps if he'd lived, I would have time for a life of my own. Everything I do is for my son. That is my job. I do it every day, without complaint 99% of the time. And I love my son. He is a person who has needs that must be met by mom (me). and while I would rather not wait until my son is an adult to be able to do things that I would like to do, I will wait, because I am his mother and that is what I am supposed to do right? sacrifice the things that made me happy for the sake of my boy. BUT, I don't have to like it and no one can judge me if I don't.

And I dare any mother (MOTHER) young or old to tell me that she never ever wants to be alone for a minute. or go to a salon to relax. or take in movie that stars ADULTS. I know there are mothers that feel like their needs don't matter to anyone. And the world at large believes that mothers (especially unmarried ones) are selfish just for wanting a moment to themselves once in awhile. It is an abomination for a mommie to want to get the hell away from their child sometimes. Nobody raises their eyebrows at daddies that have these feelings. Daddies aren't even expected to do the things that would bring someone to the point where they want desperately to get away.

I am just saying to mothers who know where I am coming from that you
are not bad moms just because you remember that you are a person with needs, too.
Yes, I read where you said your child's father had passed away and I am so sorry for that because as a single parent of three, I know exactly what it feels like to raise a child alone. I was not begrudging you that. I was not making light of that. I wasn't even trying to say my situation is worse than yours. Maybe just trying to show you things will get better. This I know for a fact.

Fuck society when it comes to the way you feel. When it coes down to it, society is not gonna step in and help you raise your child.
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Reply #98 posted 04/16/06 2:37pm

Zelaira

Kid's are GREAT! HORRIBLE THREAD!
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Reply #99 posted 04/18/06 3:35am

shanti0608

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

HereToRockYourWorld said:




Your son is really lucky that you're his mom. hug

nod and we are so blessed to be able to call this woman our friend nod





bow

To all of the great mom's & dad's out there!!!
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Reply #100 posted 04/18/06 10:03am

Spats

Zelaira said:

Kid's are GREAT! HORRIBLE THREAD!



I find most kids annoying.
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Reply #101 posted 04/19/06 11:16am

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Spats said:

Zelaira said:

Kid's are GREAT! HORRIBLE THREAD!



I find most kids annoying.

so don't have any! end of story for you. Can't see any reason for any more input from you.
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Reply #102 posted 04/19/06 11:27am

CarrieLee

PurpleJedi said:

We skipped the Aquarium and the Duck Tour so that we can go back with the kids.
shrug


The aquarium is cool...but you didn't miss anything with the duck tour! We make fun of people that go on those...usually give em' the ol' Boston "Fawk you duude!" and then cut them off. lol
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Reply #103 posted 04/19/06 11:35am

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CarrieLee said:

PurpleJedi said:

We skipped the Aquarium and the Duck Tour so that we can go back with the kids.
shrug


The aquarium is cool...but you didn't miss anything with the duck tour! We make fun of people that go on those...usually give em' the ol' Boston "Fawk you duude!" and then cut them off. lol


They do those in Seattle, and my best friend and I were talking about dressing as tourists and enthusiastically participating in the Duck Tour. biggrin
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Reply #104 posted 04/19/06 11:35am

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alwayslate said:

Romera said:

Oh so much to say, particularly to the folks on this thread who don't have kids but I won't. lol

But to the person that started this thread, having a child, planned or not, is a conscious choice. Choosing a raise a child alone is a bitch. Be grateful to God, Buddha, SpongeBob that your child is healthy. She'll one day be old enough to leave home and you'll be able to go and live your life. Then you'll miss her and wish she was a little girl who wouldn't give you two seconds to breathe.

Me, I have a child who is disabled and will live with me for the rest of my life. My kids were not planned but they in no way kill my life.


1. My son was not planned either. And I did not "choose" to have a baby by myself or to have to raise him alone. My son's father is dead. I didn't kill him. That was not my choice.

Perhaps if he'd lived, I would have time for a life of my own. Everything I do is for my son. That is my job. I do it every day, without complaint 99% of the time. And I love my son. He is a person who has needs that must be met by mom (me). and while I would rather not wait until my son is an adult to be able to do things that I would like to do, I will wait, because I am his mother and that is what I am supposed to do right? sacrifice the things that made me happy for the sake of my boy. BUT, I don't have to like it and no one can judge me if I don't.

And I dare any mother (MOTHER) young or old to tell me that she never ever wants to be alone for a minute. or go to a salon to relax. or take in movie that stars ADULTS. I know there are mothers that feel like their needs don't matter to anyone. And the world at large believes that mothers (especially unmarried ones) are selfish just for wanting a moment to themselves once in awhile. It is an abomination for a mommie to want to get the hell away from their child sometimes. Nobody raises their eyebrows at daddies that have these feelings. Daddies aren't even expected to do the things that would bring someone to the point where they want desperately to get away.

I am just saying to mothers who know where I am coming from that you
are not bad moms just because you remember that you are a person with needs, too.


I'm sorry for your loss. I am NOT a single parent, and it's still hard so I'm not trying to say you have no reason to complain. Yes, we all want a minute or 2 to ourselves and there's NOTHING wrong with that....but your thread didn't say, I just need some time to myself. Your thread said "having children kills your life" and to me that's a DISGUSTING thing to say.
I don't know you situation...I can only assume you have no family what so ever to help you out? but if you do have someone who can take your son for you for an hour or 2 or an evening out once in a while....DO IT! You deserve it. Only YOU can make sure your needs (as well as you children's) are met. I go out every other Friday night with my friend. We usually just go to dinner and a couple drinks and are home before 11 but...it's the time away from the family and responsibilities that is what makes the difference. My husband and I argue about it too, if it were up to him...I wouldn't be going out every other Friday, if I were any less of a women...he may just convince me that it's not "necessary" (as he puts it) but I know what is or is not necessary for me NOT him.
Anyway. I feel a mother's job is THE hardest job in the world, but it is also THE MOST rewarding. It is totally normal to feel worn out, beat down and unappreciated. Just don't take it out on your kid. Take a bath when he's a sleep, take a nap when he takes a nap. Get your me time in any way you can, it will help you immensely.
"not a fan" falloff yeah...ok
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Reply #105 posted 04/19/06 11:36am

Shorty

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CarrieLee said:

PurpleJedi said:

We skipped the Aquarium and the Duck Tour so that we can go back with the kids.
shrug


The aquarium is cool...but you didn't miss anything with the duck tour! We make fun of people that go on those...usually give em' the ol' Boston "Fawk you duude!" and then cut them off. lol


they are expensive too! like 26 bucks a ticket I think! pfft!
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Reply #106 posted 04/19/06 11:36am

applekisses

HereToRockYourWorld said:

CarrieLee said:



The aquarium is cool...but you didn't miss anything with the duck tour! We make fun of people that go on those...usually give em' the ol' Boston "Fawk you duude!" and then cut them off. lol


They do those in Seattle, and my best friend and I were talking about dressing as tourists and enthusiastically participating in the Duck Tour. biggrin


What the hell is a duck tour? I live in Detroit...we duck occasionally when we hear gunshots, but we don't do an actual TOUR... lol
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Reply #107 posted 04/19/06 11:40am

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applekisses said:

HereToRockYourWorld said:



They do those in Seattle, and my best friend and I were talking about dressing as tourists and enthusiastically participating in the Duck Tour. biggrin


What the hell is a duck tour? I live in Detroit...we duck occasionally when we hear gunshots, but we don't do an actual TOUR... lol


lol it's a "tour" of the city in this amphibious vehicle. It drives you around town...and then usually plunges into the harbour for a seaside tour too. LOL biggrin
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Reply #108 posted 04/19/06 12:33pm

CarrieLee

applekisses said:

HereToRockYourWorld said:



They do those in Seattle, and my best friend and I were talking about dressing as tourists and enthusiastically participating in the Duck Tour. biggrin


What the hell is a duck tour? I live in Detroit...we duck occasionally when we hear gunshots, but we don't do an actual TOUR... lol


Ahahahaha!!!!

It's one of these stupid things, they go into the Charles River too. The only time I like them is when the Patriots and Red Sox are in them for the victory parades!

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Reply #109 posted 04/19/06 12:38pm

applekisses

CarrieLee said:

applekisses said:



What the hell is a duck tour? I live in Detroit...we duck occasionally when we hear gunshots, but we don't do an actual TOUR... lol


Ahahahaha!!!!

It's one of these stupid things, they go into the Charles River too. The only time I like them is when the Patriots and Red Sox are in them for the victory parades!




It's kinda cool that they can go in the water, although, those people look like a bunch of dorks lol
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Reply #110 posted 04/19/06 12:54pm

CarrieLee

applekisses said:

CarrieLee said:



Ahahahaha!!!!

It's one of these stupid things, they go into the Charles River too. The only time I like them is when the Patriots and Red Sox are in them for the victory parades!




It's kinda cool that they can go in the water, although, those people look like a bunch of dorks lol


There is nothing more annoying than getting stuck behind one of these fuckers during rush hour traffic. Well, I take that back. Spats is pretty fucking annoying.
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Reply #111 posted 04/19/06 12:55pm

purpledisc

I have been looking after my son since Christmas 2005 as I have been unemployed since then and had to pull him out of Childcare due to the expense. I gotta say it is bloody hard work being a Mum..24 / 7 .....Even though I am actually a Dad !!

I totally understand as well where you come from with the "God I need a break".

Sometimes I am overwhelmed at the level of commitment I have made, but then the little guy gives me a cheeky smile and it is like.....all gone !!!

So what I wanna say, is this, I have every respect for any mother, especially those who have to bring up kids alone (Alwayslate and Romera thats for you)

My mum had to raise 6 kids by herself after my Father died when I was 3 years old. She is a hero to me, not just for that, but because even after raising all us kids she managed to Work for 14 years afterwards too....She is now 72 Years old and has just retired, she spent the last 14 years Cycling 3 miles to and 3 miles from work and obviously spending all day working too !!

Mums deserve the Medal of Honor - For Service above and beyond the call of duty.....End of..... smile
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Reply #112 posted 04/19/06 2:46pm

Romera

purpledisc said:

I have been looking after my son since Christmas 2005 as I have been unemployed since then and had to pull him out of Childcare due to the expense. I gotta say it is bloody hard work being a Mum..24 / 7 .....Even though I am actually a Dad !!

I totally understand as well where you come from with the "God I need a break".

Sometimes I am overwhelmed at the level of commitment I have made, but then the little guy gives me a cheeky smile and it is like.....all gone !!!

So what I wanna say, is this, I have every respect for any mother, especially those who have to bring up kids alone (Alwayslate and Romera thats for you)

My mum had to raise 6 kids by herself after my Father died when I was 3 years old. She is a hero to me, not just for that, but because even after raising all us kids she managed to Work for 14 years afterwards too....She is now 72 Years old and has just retired, she spent the last 14 years Cycling 3 miles to and 3 miles from work and obviously spending all day working too !!

Mums deserve the Medal of Honor - For Service above and beyond the call of duty.....End of..... smile
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Reply #113 posted 04/19/06 10:15pm

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CarrieLee said:

PurpleJedi said:

We skipped the Aquarium and the Duck Tour so that we can go back with the kids.
shrug


The aquarium is cool...but you didn't miss anything with the duck tour! We make fun of people that go on those...usually give em' the ol' Boston "Fawk you duude!" and then cut them off. lol


falloff
I just hope I don't run into YOU when I'm on that stupid thing!
BTW: I do want to go back and do the "ghost" tour (the one that takes you around the cementaries and stuff)!
By St. Boogar and all the saints at the backside door of Purgatory!
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Reply #114 posted 04/21/06 11:25pm

BlackBuddy

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Sure there r times when u can't do things...u have to think about them first .....alot of my friends that don't have kids tend to be all me me me ....(love them to death and thats not their fault ...its just they don't have something they love more than their own life that they have to consider 24 hours a day) ....
Basically I love Taylor and Tyryn more than life itself and wouldn't have it any other way biggrin
[Edited 4/12/06 0:18am]


imo, it is more selfish to have children. Your children don't ask to be here. Most people who choose to have children do it to fulfill their own selfish desires of "beating that biological clock," "carrying on the bloodline or family name," or just following the seemingly natural progression of life. They just want to raise and care for a child. Most of them do it because it is what THEY WANT so who's really me me me? If someone desires to love something more than themselves, I would first think they don't love themselves at all and then think there are plenty of other somethings or someones to love more than themself that aren't children. Why does the idea of loving someone more than yourself applauded?

Something good needs to be said for the childless who are contributing to population control and conserving resources. Some people don't seem to realize that having a child, or more children, sucks up our resources that will most likely disappear and will eventually overcrowd this planet. Due to advances in science, people are living much longer than expected, so there's a big gap between the amount dying and the amount being born. The baby boom generation will start retiring in 2011. By the time I am eligible to retire, there will be no social security. Why is that? Because people were having too many babies between 1945-1960. They were fulfilling their DESIRES. Anytime you fulfill a desire, you are being selfish, parents included. When you give everything to your child without giving anything to yourself it doesn't make you a saint, it makes you selfish because you desire to do that. Childless people aren't any more selfish than you are and you're not any less selfish because you take care of someone
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Reply #115 posted 04/21/06 11:52pm

chunky

why can't you just chill out with your kids? spend quality time with them.. you make life tough when you don't pay attention to ur kids.. listen to them... don't blame them! all children would grow up to be more fulfilled that way


They are the foundation of society, the highest priority, the guiding light! But there hasn't been many fulfilled childhoods and that's why we grow up and become the adults or parents that we are. we better learn from them. instead of rewarding or getting caught up in teenage and adult society, especially moms... it all starts when they're toddles. create a good home environment and society will be a better a place, even if u didn't plan to have them, they give you at least 9 months to prepare. Prince says his music is his children... think prince lives for his music.
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Reply #116 posted 04/22/06 12:03am

chunky

YEAH and i don't have kids.


also, my parents kept driving me nuts... because of too many parents ( a bunch of step-parents coz my biological ones kept re-marrying others) I feel for prince in that way.


i have a friend who's 24/7 mother and she naggs about it sometimes... i can see she's having a hard time. She's under the same pressure, no one from her close relatives is around to baby-sit.
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Reply #117 posted 04/22/06 3:30am

purpledisc

BlackBuddy said:

Ocean said:

Sure there r times when u can't do things...u have to think about them first .....alot of my friends that don't have kids tend to be all me me me ....(love them to death and thats not their fault ...its just they don't have something they love more than their own life that they have to consider 24 hours a day) ....
Basically I love Taylor and Tyryn more than life itself and wouldn't have it any other way biggrin
[Edited 4/12/06 0:18am]


imo, it is more selfish to have children. Your children don't ask to be here. Most people who choose to have children do it to fulfill their own selfish desires of "beating that biological clock," "carrying on the bloodline or family name," or just following the seemingly natural progression of life. They just want to raise and care for a child. Most of them do it because it is what THEY WANT so who's really me me me? If someone desires to love something more than themselves, I would first think they don't love themselves at all and then think there are plenty of other somethings or someones to love more than themself that aren't children. Why does the idea of loving someone more than yourself applauded?

Something good needs to be said for the childless who are contributing to population control and conserving resources. Some people don't seem to realize that having a child, or more children, sucks up our resources that will most likely disappear and will eventually overcrowd this planet. Due to advances in science, people are living much longer than expected, so there's a big gap between the amount dying and the amount being born. The baby boom generation will start retiring in 2011. By the time I am eligible to retire, there will be no social security. Why is that? Because people were having too many babies between 1945-1960. They were fulfilling their DESIRES. Anytime you fulfill a desire, you are being selfish, parents included. When you give everything to your child without giving anything to yourself it doesn't make you a saint, it makes you selfish because you desire to do that. Childless people aren't any more selfish than you are and you're not any less selfish because you take care of someone



People wanting children are selfish and do it to fulfill selfish needs !!! confused

Loving someone is not selfish, nor is reproduction, it is a fact of life, an act of nature - Animals do it - Fish do it - Are they selfish ?? Nope - It is a fact of life. Yes there may be a population count higher than previous centuries / Decades.....But we stop reproducing and we become extinct.

Being a parent is the best thing that has happened to me. You don't like that - tough - I am not selfish, If I was selfish I would devote my life to myself and not give a toss about anyone else. Selfishness is a desire to fulfill ones own needs, but being a parent doesn't fall within that category.

And yes, a minority may have a child to fill in a hole in their life or because they are uneducated as per the boom over the last few years of teenage pregnancies - So it is not a totally unjustified answer - Just don't paint everyone the same colour is whatI mean to say.
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Reply #118 posted 04/22/06 9:01am

Spats

Exactly. For the most part (unless it's not planned) people who have kids have them for selfish reasons. To fullfill some need or emptiness in their own life. they are not doing it for anybody but themselves.
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Reply #119 posted 04/22/06 9:33am

shanti0608

Spats said:

Exactly. For the most part (unless it's not planned) people who have kids have them for selfish reasons. To fullfill some need or emptiness in their own life. they are not doing it for anybody but themselves.


I used to think that way- glad I opened my mind a bit...
Never thought I ever wanted kids but now I am open to the fact that someday I might change my mind.. Who knows.. Not all kids are bad- not all parents are selfish..
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