i still want one though

IstenSzek said:

Imago said:

You're bordering on pathetic.

jerseykrs said:

i don't know what's worse. his response or me
feeling slightly flattered by it, despite his
track record

I can't STAND ipods

Mostly 'cause I hate the itunes software.

My 8gig Zen Micro Photo is soooo wonderful.

JPW said:

I too go with Creative Labs "Zen" MP3 player.

I use the type with the hard drive.

I listen to my ipod so much I have to recharge it practicaly every day!

Ipod mini!

IstenSzek said:

Krystal666 said:

same.

SammiJ said:

too bad your Apple batteries eventually run out!

JPW said:

another awesome thing about my mp3 player. i have an extra battery that i can keep charged, so i don't have to plug it in as often!

JPW said:

they are easily replaced for $20.

http://www.ipodbatterydep...CwodSVX1xA

I've done it. It's not a big deal.

Stax said:

So that's fairly expensive when the thing is pretty expensive to begin with. Why bother with getting Apple just for the brand (like people used to by Nike for the same reason) when there are better players out there? iPod only plays 128kbps mp3... other players like the Zen have much better quality sound (up to CD quality), video, etc and are cheaper! You're just paying for the name with Apple.

JPW said:

I like several non-Apple mp3 players (i own a rio) and I love the zen. As for the iPod, the 128kbps is a nonissue since a higher bit rate makes zero difference given the headphones I use. Headphones that can take advantage of a higher bit rate cannot be adequately powered by any portable mp3 alone. Even on my home stereo, 128 is fine, although I almost always listen to vinyl or cd at home.

I will happily pay more for a Apple product. They think about consumers when they design and their hardware and software is more intuitive than other brands. I use a mac powerbook and the ipod works perfectly with it. Also, there are far more third-party aftermarket products for the ipod than for the zen. There are lots of reasons to choose the iPod over other devices.

Even if the replacement battery only lasts a year (my first lasted two), at $20 it comes to less than six cents a day. I can swing it.


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brownsugar said:

i had the 4gb, then it messed up so i took it back and got the 30gb video ipod. mine looks exactly like this:





when i miss LOST i download it and watch the episode the next night. and the quality for such a little screen is amazing! (IMO) i love that i can convert my own home videos and download them to it. and i'm going to figure out what i need to do to rip my dvd movies to it too. (i read about how to do it somewhere, but haven't had the chance to look into it further)

i'm listening to it right now. man, i love my ipod.

JPW said:

too bad NO.

fantasyislander said:

Here you go: http://www.pqdvd.com/dvd-...erter.html

It even works with TiVo.

Stax said:

when i get home i'll check it out!! thanks!

JPW said:

I'm sorry but that's plainly untrue and has never applied to any iPod that I know of... iPods play any mp3 or mp4 bitrate you throw at them up to 320kbps, and also support a lossless audio format for perfect playback. My 30GB is filled with 320kbps and lossless files.

i dont own one....i dont see the big deal

BucketOfBouncyBalls said:

I do own one. I don't see the big deal.

They are good for some people. I am not sure I am one of those people.

I have an mp3/cd player in the car. Perfect.

MickG said:

I guess we are...the others

BucketOfBouncyBalls said:

I bought one, because I am into buying technology gadgets. I thought it would be cool to have the most of my CD collection on one device. I haven't use it. I now use it to collect dust.

I've gone with the other tech/music monolith - or at least my wife did when she bought it for me...



yeah it might be little...but it's loud.

Weirdy proprietry software and file format was a bit annoying to start with, but the atrac format files take up hardly any space at all compared to mp3 (and still get good bitrate).

jtfolden said:

hmm ok, sorry! just what I'd heard

jtfolden said:

you are correct, altough I am pretty sure that songs downloaded from iTunes are encoded at 128, which I assumed was what JPW was getting at.

sinaplenty said:

I bought the 1 gig model for my son. If you upgrade your sonicstage to the current version, it's a breeze. No atrac conversion necessary. Orgnote me and I'll send you a link to the updated software.

SeattleInvasion said:

I'm looking into this one...





http://us.creative.com/pr...duct=13599