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Reply #30 posted 04/03/06 5:13pm

andykeen

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Spookymuffin said:

MickG said:



I hear what you are saying, and on most levels I agree. However alenware, from what I understand is far from "junk". They use top quality components, this might lead to their products seemingly "over-priced", and I am sure I could "build" the system for less, but it isn't about the stylistic case. It is about my time being money. I would rather just be able to buy the system outright. I know someday I have to build a system, but I don't really want to worry about seprate pieces and their compatabilities right now.


They used to, and I was gonna get one, but they got bought by Dell which means they now use Dell "high" quality components - you can't trust them anymore. The best are small specialised companies if you don't want to build yourself, such as Savrow.



NOT DELL machinegun

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Reply #31 posted 04/03/06 5:14pm

Spookymuffin

andykeen said:

Spookymuffin said:



They used to, and I was gonna get one, but they got bought by Dell which means they now use Dell "high" quality components - you can't trust them anymore. The best are small specialised companies if you don't want to build yourself, such as Savrow.



NOT DELL machinegun


I know - sad but true.
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Reply #32 posted 04/03/06 5:15pm

MickG

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Spookymuffin said:

MickG said:



I hear what you are saying, and on most levels I agree. However alenware, from what I understand is far from "junk". They use top quality components, this might lead to their products seemingly "over-priced", and I am sure I could "build" the system for less, but it isn't about the stylistic case. It is about my time being money. I would rather just be able to buy the system outright. I know someday I have to build a system, but I don't really want to worry about seprate pieces and their compatabilities right now.


They used to, and I was gonna get one, but they got bought by Dell which means they now use Dell "high" quality components - you can't trust them anymore. The best are small specialised companies if you don't want to build yourself, such as Savrow.


If they were bought by dell, then what the hell, I might aswell get a gateway lol

Dell = Sucks
News: Prince pulls his head out his ass in the last moment.
Bad News: Prince wasted too much quality time doing so.
You have those internalized issues because you want to, you like to, stop.
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Reply #33 posted 04/03/06 5:24pm

Spookymuffin

MickG said:

Spookymuffin said:



They used to, and I was gonna get one, but they got bought by Dell which means they now use Dell "high" quality components - you can't trust them anymore. The best are small specialised companies if you don't want to build yourself, such as Savrow.


If they were bought by dell, then what the hell, I might aswell get a gateway lol

Dell = Sucks


http://www.pcpro.co.uk/ne...nware.html

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Reply #34 posted 04/03/06 5:52pm

TMPletz

andykeen said:

Spookymuffin said:



They used to, and I was gonna get one, but they got bought by Dell which means they now use Dell "high" quality components - you can't trust them anymore. The best are small specialised companies if you don't want to build yourself, such as Savrow.



NOT DELL machinegun

omfg

Well, I guess I don't have to worry since I build my own systems anyway. razz
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Reply #35 posted 04/03/06 5:53pm

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I have read it, and it would seem to be true. However the articals I read stated that the Alienware product wouldn't be taken over by the coperate Dell production mode. One needs question the reality of the written word and the reality of Coperate Motives. I couldn't find any relyable computer magzs that would say the benchtested the new "Dell/Alienware" products.
News: Prince pulls his head out his ass in the last moment.
Bad News: Prince wasted too much quality time doing so.
You have those internalized issues because you want to, you like to, stop.
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Reply #36 posted 04/03/06 9:51pm

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Spookymuffin said:

evenstar3 said:

"Ok so video editing = dual core processor. The amd 64x2 is the highest performance cpu,they start around $299 for the 3800+. As far as your Hyper Threading & clock speed concrns neither of these will be a factor in the performance of the computer any longer. Clock speed is not a measure of performance for a cpu and hyperthreading is old technology (used to simulate proccessing with two cores, which is the point of dual core proccessors).

For the graphics card atleast 7600 or x1600 gpu, although I reccommend going for 7900gt or x1800 (these go for about $300 starting).

An SLI mother board is probably the best way to go for upgrades/expansion in the future. Which might be why nvidia is the best way to go as far as the gpu. Asrock has a very nice sli mother board for about $82, it supports the full 32 lane pci-express and has sata raid. This mother board also has a cpu expansion slot (for the release of AM2)

As far as ram goes standard ddr is required. Gskill has 1gb sticks starting at about $80. 1gb should start you off just fine. Getting 1gb sticks will save you money on upgardes later on.

Any standard Harddrive will work fine.
Any atx case is fine.

NewEgg.com is the best place to buy your hardware (awesome customer service & best prices)

Now if all of this is too much (ie you dont feel like building a computer yourself such as evenstar has just pointed out to me) then walk into your local best buy & take a look at the Gateway or Hewlett-Packard computers. The m7470n (HP), gm5072, gt5058, or gt5056 (Gateways) will all work for you just as well (and save you some trouble). Even on pre-built systems the graphics cards listed are still reccommended"

-says my boyfriend, the computer salesman/junkie. lol hope that helps.


Holy fuck, you know your shit like me. omfg

Oh wait, your bf told you that [/turnedon]

Tell your boyfriend that he shouldn't recommend those cards since at the end of this year the DirectX 10 Graphics cards come out that will put those (very expensive) cards that are currently top of the range to shame. Buy a very cheap graphics card and settle for less until the end of the year when the new stuff is available.
[Edited 4/3/06 16:51pm]


Dx 10 is only available in vista so unless he upgrades to vista there is no point in getting something dx10 ready, and at that point he might as well wait for the release of Conroe and AM2 aswell because some of the higher end versions of Vista will require a hefty 2gb or ram or more (4gb being the max right now) & lots of processing power.I have also heard rumors through the retail arena about microsoft pushing back vista AGAIN to spring '07. And from the reviews I saw from CES the next really really big step in graphics won't be until they inroduce the IBM cell physics.

and about the "Dellianware" THG has some ok articles reviewing previous Alienware products and comments on teh recent acquisition. I wouldn't count on anything when it comes to Dell, who knows maybe they fully integrate and start using AMD eek ... wait a sec... lol just playing.
-Evenstar's b/f
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Reply #37 posted 04/03/06 10:22pm

TMBGITW

Make sure it runs windows XP and not that crappy MAC OS shit. thumbs up!
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Reply #38 posted 04/03/06 10:38pm

Tom

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Spookymuffin said:

MickG said:



I hear what you are saying, and on most levels I agree. However alenware, from what I understand is far from "junk". They use top quality components, this might lead to their products seemingly "over-priced", and I am sure I could "build" the system for less, but it isn't about the stylistic case. It is about my time being money. I would rather just be able to buy the system outright. I know someday I have to build a system, but I don't really want to worry about seprate pieces and their compatabilities right now.


They used to, and I was gonna get one, but they got bought by Dell which means they now use Dell "high" quality components - you can't trust them anymore. The best are small specialised companies if you don't want to build yourself, such as Savrow.


I used to love Dell, I've bought several computers from them over the past 10 years. But this past January I bought a laptop and a desktop from them and it was a complete nightmare. They screwed my order up 4 times. I had to return several parts, and I kept getting put on hold for like 30-60 minutes at a time, only to get transfered to some call ceneter in India, and I couldn't understand a damn thing they were saying. My cell phone bill was through the roof after all of this.
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Reply #39 posted 04/04/06 7:03am

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If you're going to do video editing, Final Cut Pro is the way to go:

http://www.apple.com/fina...nalcutpro/

A nice Quad G5 will do the trick for that:

http://www.apple.com/powermac/
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Reply #40 posted 04/04/06 8:47am

Graycap23

MickG said:

Hey there, here is a call out to all geeks.

I am looking for my next desktop computer.

I want something that will not be old by the time it gets to my house.

I would like Hyperthreading.

3+gig CPU, and it MUST have Matching Ram!

A good chip package would be nice.

What would you get?


Sounds to me like you WANT a Mac.
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Reply #41 posted 04/04/06 11:31am

TMPletz

Graycap23 said:

MickG said:

Hey there, here is a call out to all geeks.

I am looking for my next desktop computer.

I want something that will not be old by the time it gets to my house.

I would like Hyperthreading.

3+gig CPU, and it MUST have Matching Ram!

A good chip package would be nice.

What would you get?


Sounds to me like you WANT a Mac.

rolleyes
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Reply #42 posted 04/04/06 3:00pm

MickG

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Graycap23 said:

MickG said:

Hey there, here is a call out to all geeks.

I am looking for my next desktop computer.

I want something that will not be old by the time it gets to my house.

I would like Hyperthreading.

3+gig CPU, and it MUST have Matching Ram!

A good chip package would be nice.

What would you get?


Sounds to me like you WANT a Mac.



What I wanted was an IBM, but it seems their website is only doing "business" machines now. They outsource their personal computers to another company, and I don't know what that means. Also, to many of their "media computers" are running media addition windows, and that's for the brain dead user. That isn't me.
News: Prince pulls his head out his ass in the last moment.
Bad News: Prince wasted too much quality time doing so.
You have those internalized issues because you want to, you like to, stop.
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Reply #43 posted 04/04/06 4:41pm

TMPletz

MickG said:

Graycap23 said:



Sounds to me like you WANT a Mac.



What I wanted was an IBM, but it seems their website is only doing "business" machines now. They outsource their personal computers to another company, and I don't know what that means. Also, to many of their "media computers" are running media addition windows, and that's for the brain dead user. That isn't me.

nod They don't have their laptop division anymore, either. Both PCs and laptops are now under a company called Lenovo. You may want to check them out at http://www.lenovo.com . You can customize there just like the Dell site, so you can probably get the version of Windows you want. They're still somewhat reasonably priced.
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Reply #44 posted 04/04/06 7:00pm

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TMPletz said:

Graycap23 said:



Sounds to me like you WANT a Mac.

rolleyes

rolleyes rolleyes
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Reply #45 posted 04/04/06 11:05pm

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TMPletz said:

MickG said:




What I wanted was an IBM, but it seems their website is only doing "business" machines now. They outsource their personal computers to another company, and I don't know what that means. Also, to many of their "media computers" are running media addition windows, and that's for the brain dead user. That isn't me.

nod They don't have their laptop division anymore, either. Both PCs and laptops are now under a company called Lenovo. You may want to check them out at http://www.lenovo.com . You can customize there just like the Dell site, so you can probably get the version of Windows you want. They're still somewhat reasonably priced.



Weren't you considering a $1300 budget and a desktop system? That would equal no Steve Jobs or Intel machines...or are we all getting hypothetical here? If so then I'll take one of the opteron quad dual-core servers with 8-16gb of ram and several scsi drives in raid 0, ill take 4 quadro's in sli as well, oh and make those dvd burners blue ray! And screw windows or mac osX I'll take unix as an OS lol I think that might get totall pwnage eh? biggrin
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