ok, so first appointment with the otorhinolaryngologist. (ear/nose/throat doctor) we don't really know alot more than before. she goes in tomorrow morning for a CT scan to find out if it's in her lymph nodes. we know for sure it is papillary carcinoma, but won't know if there is a combination of papillary/follicular carcinoma (which is a bit more aggressive) until they take it out. we also won't know what stage it's in until they take it out.

he told her it has to come out. my sis wants to keep her thyroid, and so is looking into alternative therapies and treatments. i'm really worried. i'm afraid that if she delays too long it will be too late. the doctor said she needs to make a decision within the next month. so, what if she decides on one of these other treatments, wastes 6 months on that, finds out it doesn't work, and then decides to go for the thyroidectomy and finds out the cancer has spread to her lungs or bones??



one good thing, next week we're going to the cancer treatment center in tulsa, ok. i looked on their website, and it seems that they look at other treatments too, not just surgery. so, i'm hoping that if they look at everything and STILL say she needs the surgery she will heed their word a bit more than the single-minded midwestern doctors here.

i'm frustrated, b/c this is such an easy cancer to cure. why does she have to make this so much more difficult than it needs to be?

Keep in mind, Hill, the power of belief... if she doesn't feel good about surgery, having it may make her feel worse, psychologically speaking. If she believes in the natural cure, it has a better chance of working.

It's kind of hard at this moment, I know... but please try to believe in her. She needs all the positive energy she can get... It's just fear, Hillster.

I am sorry to be so blunt Heiress but this is absolute categorical bullshit! I agree that a good positive attitude along with the recommended treatment is better than being down and scared about the treatment but sitting back and pretending it will all be ok if you have faith and eat a few mashed up leaves is SERIOUSLY asking for trouble on this one.

You know where I stand on this FI and I really believe by consulting the complementary therapists soon will lead her to make the right choice.

I am sorry to be so blunt Heiress but this is absolute categorical bullshit! I agree that a good positive attitude along with the recommended treatment is better than being down and scared about the treatment but sitting back and pretending it will all be ok if you have faith and eat a few mashed up leaves is SERIOUSLY asking for trouble on this one.

You know where I stand on this FI and I really believe by consulting the complementary therapists soon will lead her to make the right choice.

that's what i'm saying, man. just let her make her own decisions. she'll make the right one for her, in the end. she needs a quick fix now, doesn't she? whereas natural solutions are for the long run, and prevention pretty much.

because hasn't she had a sore throat for years and years? i understand, tho, that it's hard for some people to really be "in" their bodies and pay attention to what they're saying, for whatever complicated reasons.

for my own personal care, i see mainstream medical care as a last or emergency resort... a person really must be in your body 24/7 and responding to it (and in touch with your unconscious) to circumvent problems before they appear... and that's hard to do.

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that's what i'm saying, man. just let her make her own decisions. she'll make the right one for her, in the end. she needs a quick fix now, doesn't she? whereas natural solutions are for the long run, and prevention pretty much.

because hasn't she had a sore throat for years and years? i understand, tho, that it's hard for some people to really be "in" their bodies and pay attention to what they're saying, for whatever complicated reasons.

for my own personal care, i see mainstream medical care as a last or emergency resort... a person really must be in your body 24/7 and responding to it (and in touch with your unconscious) to circumvent problems before they appear... and that's hard to do.

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that's what i'm saying, man. just let her make her own decisions. she'll make the right one for her, in the end. she needs a quick fix now, doesn't she? whereas natural solutions are for the long run, and prevention pretty much.

because hasn't she had a sore throat for years and years? i understand, tho, that it's hard for some people to really be "in" their bodies and pay attention to what they're saying, for whatever complicated reasons.

for my own personal care, i see mainstream medical care as a last or emergency resort... a person really must be in your body 24/7 and responding to it (and in touch with your unconscious) to circumvent problems before they appear... and that's hard to do.

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At last it sounds like we are all on the same page and here is to hoping your sis joins us soon. In the meantime we can all be eating well in the hope none of us end up in a similar situation.

Love and Hugs FI

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such love on my thread!






does anyone know anything about the Hoxsey cancer treatment center in tijuana, mexico? this is the main "alternative treatment" my sister is looking into.

Isn't that what Coretta Scott King was doing? They did NOTHING for her, if that's the case.

is this where she went? i remember it was somewhere in mexico, but i haven't had a chance to look it up yet . . .

such love on my thread!






does anyone know anything about the Hoxsey cancer treatment center in tijuana, mexico? this is the main "alternative treatment" my sister is looking into.

If it wasn't that particular facility, it was something similar.

she went to baja california, mexico, to a holistic healing center there.

Herbalist treatments are one thing, but don't even get me started on holistic therapy. Treatment essence, I will give you a treatment essence . Money-grabbing parasites preying on vulnerable patients.

what is a treatment essence? i like essential oils. they are my home medicine chest (aspirin is the hardest "drug" i have here).

but i must admit, homeopathy does absolutely NOTHING for me. i have, however, cured a few of my own health problems with energy work - done on myself, for myself, by myself...

people like me should be studied. i feel rather freakish.

Holistic "medicines" are solutions of plant extract (for example) that have been diluted so much that only the "essence" of the plant remains. ie only the fact that the plant was once there gives power to the water (I suppose) that remains.

If it wasn't that particular facility, it was something similar.

Isn't that what Coretta Scott King was doing? They did NOTHING for her, if that's the case.

That is because it's bullshit!