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Thread started 03/16/06 4:25am

LleeLlee

making the news!

I've been reading about how increasingly members of the public because of camera phones which can also record video and digital cameras, have become pseudo photo journalists and are sending in pictures of stars/disastars to news agencies. Have you ever contributed to a news story in this way? would you?

I think its an interesting phenomenon how the public are recording events and news broadcasters are using their footage/photos. what are your thoughts?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/h...522014.stm
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Reply #1 posted 03/16/06 4:30am

LleeLlee

"Have you taken a picture or filmed some video on your phone or digital camera that tells the story?"

heres a link from BBC asking for photos/stories.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/h...417370.stm


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/h...780295.stm

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Reply #2 posted 03/16/06 5:10am

2the9s

First... sad
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Reply #3 posted 03/16/06 5:12am

LleeLlee

2the9s said:

First... sad


I'm sending that picture of you and your rash into the BBC.
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Reply #4 posted 03/16/06 5:13am

2the9s

LleeLlee said:

2the9s said:

First... sad


I'm sending that picture of you and your rash into the BBC.


No you aren't.

smile
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Reply #5 posted 03/16/06 5:15am

LleeLlee

2the9s said:

LleeLlee said:



I'm sending that picture of you and your rash into the BBC.


No you aren't.

smile


I've already sent it, they said they cant publish it as it will frighten the readers. shame confused
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Reply #6 posted 03/16/06 5:20am

LleeLlee

any other comments apart from 2the9s oh so profound and earth shatteringly interesting ones?
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Reply #7 posted 03/16/06 5:21am

2the9s

LleeLlee said:

any other comments apart from 2the9s oh so profound and earth shatteringly interesting ones?


I saved this thread, chica.


Allelujah!

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Reply #8 posted 03/16/06 5:24am

IstenSzek

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LleeLlee said:

2the9s said:



No you aren't.

smile


I've already sent it, they said they cant publish it as it will frighten the readers. shame confused


i'm sure they can cover his face

smile
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #9 posted 03/16/06 5:24am

LleeLlee

2the9s said:

LleeLlee said:

any other comments apart from 2the9s oh so profound and earth shatteringly interesting ones?


I saved this thread, chica.


Allelujah!

smile




you are crossing boundaries i never knew i had smile
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Reply #10 posted 03/16/06 5:26am

LleeLlee

IstenSzek said:

LleeLlee said:



I've already sent it, they said they cant publish it as it will frighten the readers. shame confused


i'm sure they can cover his face

smile



I suggested that, but they said it wasnt the face that was the problem confused
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Reply #11 posted 03/16/06 5:27am

IstenSzek

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LleeLlee said:

IstenSzek said:



i'm sure they can cover his face

smile



I suggested that, but they said it wasnt the face that was the problem confused


if not the face, what was?

confuse
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Reply #12 posted 03/16/06 5:28am

LleeLlee

IstenSzek said:

LleeLlee said:




I suggested that, but they said it wasnt the face that was the problem confused


if not the face, what was?

confuse



The area of "concern" should be treated 3 times a day they said.

would you share pictures/video of events?

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Reply #13 posted 03/16/06 5:31am

CarrieMpls

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The camera on my phone takes fuzzy pictures. So no, I porbably wouldn't share them.
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Reply #14 posted 03/16/06 5:51am

LleeLlee

CarrieMpls said:

The camera on my phone takes fuzzy pictures. So no, I porbably wouldn't share them.



that is a problem, I was interested in this because it seems to be on the increase, but with the technology available to us i guess it was inevitable.
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Reply #15 posted 03/16/06 5:54am

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LleeLlee said:

CarrieMpls said:

The camera on my phone takes fuzzy pictures. So no, I porbably wouldn't share them.



that is a problem, I was interested in this because it seems to be on the increase, but with the technology available to us i guess it was inevitable.


my new phone takes videos and has a 1.2 megapixel camera. not bad for a phone. i'm ready for journalism now! too bad nothing ever happens around here. pout
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Reply #16 posted 03/16/06 5:58am

LleeLlee

fantasyislander said:

LleeLlee said:




that is a problem, I was interested in this because it seems to be on the increase, but with the technology available to us i guess it was inevitable.


my new phone takes videos and has a 1.2 megapixel camera. not bad for a phone. i'm ready for journalism now! too bad nothing ever happens around here. pout



my phone has 2 megapixels nana

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LleeLlee said:

fantasyislander said:



my new phone takes videos and has a 1.2 megapixel camera. not bad for a phone. i'm ready for journalism now! too bad nothing ever happens around here. pout



my phone has 2 megapixels nana

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hmph!
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Reply #18 posted 03/16/06 6:02am

IstenSzek

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i think i would share pictures of something funny or
lightweight, but never something shocking or morally
corrupt that would expose someone in a bad light.

especially accident pics or clips, although i would
not even dream of making them.

stuff like the 9/11 footage, perhaps, because that'd
be in national interest to be studied and such but a
normal accident, no way.
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Reply #19 posted 03/16/06 6:02am

LleeLlee

fantasyislander said:

LleeLlee said:




my phone has 2 megapixels nana

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hmph!


lol

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Reply #20 posted 03/16/06 6:07am

LleeLlee

IstenSzek said:

i think i would share pictures of something funny or
lightweight, but never something shocking or morally
corrupt that would expose someone in a bad light.

especially accident pics or clips, although i would
not even dream of making them.

stuff like the 9/11 footage, perhaps, because that'd
be in national interest to be studied and such but a
normal accident, no way.


I was thinking about the ethical implications too, I couldnt see myself taking pictures of accidents at all. But events of national concern as you said, and ones which inform rather than for shock value, perhaps. I guess you just have to judge the situation as it happens.
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Reply #21 posted 03/16/06 6:09am

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i don't participate. the only cellphone i have is for my car.

but the privacy issue is going to be more and more intense. does person A have the right to photographs, AND publish pics of person B who has not given their consent?
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Reply #22 posted 03/16/06 6:17am

LleeLlee

XxAxX said:

i don't participate. the only cellphone i have is for my car.

but the privacy issue is going to be more and more intense. does person A have the right to photographs, AND publish pics of person B who has not given their consent?


Im not sure about privacy issues and publishing pictures without consent, but journalists often do it. I think if the person is in a public place they can do it.

The flipside is that i think eye witness accounts of events can provide a more immediate picture, as they are there when it happens, there are some examples in the links i posted..
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Reply #23 posted 03/16/06 6:19am

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I should state, I can take videos too.

But I don't.
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Reply #24 posted 03/16/06 6:19am

XxAxX

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LleeLlee said:

XxAxX said:

i don't participate. the only cellphone i have is for my car.

but the privacy issue is going to be more and more intense. does person A have the right to photographs, AND publish pics of person B who has not given their consent?


Im not sure about privacy issues and publishing pictures without consent, but journalists often do it. I think if the person is in a public place they can do it.

The flipside is that i think eye witness accounts of events can provide a more immediate picture, as they are there when it happens, there are some examples in the links i posted..


in the US the law is kinda vague. a person in a public place has no expectation of privacy. pretty straightforward. BUT what about a person at a private party in someone else's home? there are grey areas that could be problematic
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Reply #25 posted 03/16/06 6:27am

LleeLlee

XxAxX said:

LleeLlee said:



Im not sure about privacy issues and publishing pictures without consent, but journalists often do it. I think if the person is in a public place they can do it.

The flipside is that i think eye witness accounts of events can provide a more immediate picture, as they are there when it happens, there are some examples in the links i posted..


in the US the law is kinda vague. a person in a public place has no expectation of privacy. pretty straightforward. BUT what about a person at a private party in someone else's home? there are grey areas that could be problematic


I think in this case the newspaper decides if the picture is of national/public interest, maybe? and if it is authentic, but the kate moss pictures for example were not in the national interest but they were still published. She was in a recording studio, a private place. However, It sold newspapers and ultimately that is the aim, especially for tabloids.

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Reply #26 posted 03/16/06 6:31am

XxAxX

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LleeLlee said:

XxAxX said:



in the US the law is kinda vague. a person in a public place has no expectation of privacy. pretty straightforward. BUT what about a person at a private party in someone else's home? there are grey areas that could be problematic


I think in this case the newspaper decides if the picture is of national/public interest, maybe? and if it is authentic, but the kate moss pictures for example were not in the national interest but they were still published. She was in a recording studio, a private place. However, It sold newspapers and ultimately that is the aim, especially for tabloids.

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in the US celebrities have less protection because they are 'public figures'. maybe the same in britain?
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Reply #27 posted 03/16/06 6:33am

LleeLlee

XxAxX said:

LleeLlee said:



I think in this case the newspaper decides if the picture is of national/public interest, maybe? and if it is authentic, but the kate moss pictures for example were not in the national interest but they were still published. She was in a recording studio, a private place. However, It sold newspapers and ultimately that is the aim, especially for tabloids.

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in the US celebrities have less protection because they are 'public figures'. maybe the same in britain?



it's the same here, the law is different for young children of celebrities though, they have more protection.
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Reply #28 posted 03/16/06 6:39am

LleeLlee

"When David Otway took his digital camera with him on a flight from Stansted to Ireland on Sunday, he had no idea his pictures would soon be published across the world.
But then Dr Otway had not realised as he boarded his plane that he would be flying near one of the largest fires in Europe since 1945.

His dramatic images of the massive blaze at the Buncefield oil depot in Hertfordshire were just some of the photographs taken by members of the public and used by news outlets, including the BBC.

His instincts highlight a rising trend in which ordinary people are using digital cameras or mobile phones to capture events, often beating professional journalists."
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Reply #29 posted 03/16/06 6:41am

XxAxX

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i guess i'm old school. the fact that anyone anywhere can capture my image and use it however they like bugs me. the idea that implanted tracking chips, for personal and medical reasons, are being urged on citizens as a 'good idea' bugs me. it bugs me that newer clothing items are sold complete with scan-able strips. i don't want to live in a world that can scan me when i walk by and instantly obtain my medical and personal data and shopping preferences

i think this world is coming though.
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