then overtly intelectualise it?
im especially thinking of jazz music and to a degree the music of prince.

a case in point is me writing this thread!

jonylawson said:

I dont think music has a colour, IMHO if we say that music is black or white we perpetualise the issue. I am people colour just like everyone else, colour does not even enter my mind when it comes to music,or in fact anything else, if i like it i listen, if i don't like it then i don't.

In the UK the PC mentality on this is crazy i mean c'mon the MOBO awards!!! fer fucks sake if the MOWO awards were announced there would be up roar.

Just my 2c

HMMM look at how many of the greatest forms of music was created-jazz,soul,hiphop
through great hardship-look at the blues.
i appreciate your point but music HAS colour

what do you think of when you listen to strange fruit?

jonylawson said:

im not remotely being pc-read my thread.

I dont hear music in color or think of it that way

don't you think you're doing a disservice to some black people by saying only WHITE people intellectualise black music?

my answer to the question is no. also, some forms of jazz are fairly "intellectual" or cerebral in their essence to begin with. and much of prince's music isn't exactly "dumb" (though there is some of it which, it could be argued, is).


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erm.

For rock & roll and american pop music, all of it is derived from African roots.

But if you go outside the realm of that (classical, etc.) then influences change.


If anything, white people are innovative too. I mean, Mozart, Bheethoven--those white motherfuckers wrote crazy genius songs!

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EvilWhiteMules said:

That is not entirely true.

Rock and Roll and all forms of "American pop music", be it jazz, etc, were formed from a combination of the African culture with Western harmony.

English folk music for example also had a part to play in the formation of the blues.

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Do angels care where the music comes from? They just sing for the love of it. Does it truly matter how it evolved...i'm just glad that it did.....here's my thinking. I don't like this conept of "black and white"...for one I am not white...and I don't recall ever seeing a black person! We are people of color sharing our gifts and taking great ideas and adding them to our own...we want to make the good better, not dig up something to make us fight. Have you ever seen a riot go on durring a Prince concert'cause he borrowed a sound or used someone's name? It's all for the appreciation of sound and the art of it. We are all one....we should...after all these long hard years, start acting like it.

madsex6969 said:

damn. i got teary reading this.

XxAxX said:

Me too.

I hate white people. Except for Joni Mitchell. And Suzanne Vega. And Angelina Jolie. And Ralph Fiennes. And that guy in the Fab 5 who wears glasses. And Psychodelicide.

...I also like Lovemachine, but only between the neck and the belly button. The rest of him, I pretty much hate.

madsex6969 said: