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brownsugar

What do you think about this?

Male aggression related to index finger length


Previous studies have discovered that finger length in men is directly correlated to the amount of male sex hormone testosterone they were exposed to in the womb. A new study just released from University of Alberta reveals that men with longer ring fingers compared to their index fingers tend to be more physically aggressive.

Researchers say it has long been recognized that the length of the index finger relative to the ring finger differs between men and women. In women, the difference in the length of their ring finger relative to their index finger is small. Meanwhile, men tend to have a bigger length difference between the two fingers.

A number of scientists have performed research in this area and have tied some aspect of behavior and central nervous system development to the amount of testosterone baby boys are exposed to in the uterus, which also influences finger length.

Canadian professor of psychology Dr. Peter Hurd and his graduate assistant Allison Bailey measured the fingers of 300 male and female undergraduates at the University of Alberta. The results of their study will appear in the March issue of Biological Psychology.

Their results showed that men had smaller finger length ratios than women. In addition, the shorter the index finger was relative to the ring finger, the more likely the male students scored higher on scales of physical aggression. However, they found no correlation between finger lengths and people who are prone to exhibit verbally aggressive, angry, or hostile behaviors.

The study's findings did not apply to women. Generally speaking, women's index and ring fingers are almost equal in length, because they're exposed to less testosterone in the womb.

However, Hurd says finger lengths only, "explain about five percent of the variation in these personality measures, so research like this won't allow you to draw conclusions about specific people."

In a press release, Hurd added, "For example, you wouldn't want to screen people for certain jobs based on their finger lengths, but finger length can tell you a little bit about where personality comes from, and that's what we are continuing to explore."

Although researchers say finger length only accounts for a small portion of the differences in men's aggressive behaviors, they explain that the results are consistent with previous studies that have linked men's finger length to the amount of testosterone a fetus is exposed to in the womb.

"More than anything, I think the findings reinforce and underline that a large part of our personalities and our traits are determined while we're still in the womb," said Hurd in a news release. Hurd also noted that both testosterone exposure and finger length may be influenced by a "deeper third variable."

Evolutionary biologist John Manning, at the University of Liverpool, has noted that heavier testosterone exposure may also affect development of the right side of the brain, which controls both visual and spatial judgment. Therefore, some researchers propose that ring-finger length may predict athletic prowess as opposed to aggression.

Manning observed that relatively longer fingers, especially in the ring finger, may indicate increased risk for depression in men, but not in women.

Hurd, on the other hand, plans to publish research suggesting that men having more feminine finger-length ratios are more prone to depression. Previous research has shown that men with smaller differences in the length of their ring and index fingers are at higher risk of autism and immune deficiency.

Hurd is conducting ongoing research in this area. He next plans to investigate whether there is any correlation between finger length and male hockey players' penalty records for contact and fouling during matches.


and here's what a woman said:

I am a woman whose third (ring) fingers are substantially longer than my index fingers, which indicates that I was exposed to more testosterone in the womb.

Although not aggressive (it says this finding doesn't relate to women), I am aware that I am not a "feminine" woman, in the stereotypical sense. When I was studying for my social work qualification, I remember doing an exercise which involved completing a questionnaire, then placing ourselves along a continuum line from most masculine to most feminine, according to our scores. I was not surprised to find myself about half the way along the male line!

Whilst I have many women friends, I also find it easy to get along with men, particularly the more "feminine men" - I read somewhere the "masculine women" and "feminine men" do get on well, possibly an area for further study? I do not get on at all with "macho" men.

I think my male characteristics are that I am assertive and direct (hate "small talk"), very logical and practical (down to earth), and I can read maps well(!). I wear no make-up usually, hate "dressing up", have a short, easy haircut and can't wear high heels (and don't want to), but I don't wear men's clothes or walk/move like a man.

Another study I read suggested that more women with the "male" finger lengths are lesbians, which I am not, though I would say I am heterosexual with "bi" tendencies.

Hope this has been of interest.



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Reply #1 posted 03/08/06 10:02am

Nothinbutjoy

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I didn't read the whole thing, but I think it means that if a guy has big feet he's got a really big...




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Reply #2 posted 03/08/06 10:04am

brownsugar

Nothinbutjoy said:

I didn't read the whole thing, but I think it means that if a guy has big feet he's got a really big...




nevermind boxed

lol
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Reply #3 posted 03/08/06 10:07am

SHANNA

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Nothinbutjoy said:

I didn't read the whole thing, but I think it means that if a guy has big feet he's got a really big...




nevermind boxed


lol And that the head of his penis can be measured by his nose---the bridge to the tip!

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Reply #4 posted 03/08/06 10:08am

july

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Reply #5 posted 03/08/06 10:08am

brownsugar

well this is going well.
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Reply #6 posted 03/08/06 10:09am

july

SHANNA said:

Nothinbutjoy said:

I didn't read the whole thing, but I think it means that if a guy has big feet he's got a really big...




nevermind boxed


lol And that the head of his penis can be measured by his nose---the bridge to the tip!

boxed

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Reply #7 posted 03/08/06 10:09am

july

brownsugar said:

well this is going well.

lol.
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Reply #8 posted 03/08/06 10:17am

Anx

i looked at my fingers and realized i have to trim my nails, so thank you for that!
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Reply #9 posted 03/08/06 10:17am

brownsugar

man y'all suck! lol
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Reply #10 posted 03/08/06 10:18am

Anx

boxed **chewing fingernails**
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Reply #11 posted 03/08/06 10:18am

AnckSuNamun

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whoa....I'm gonna start looking at fingers to determine who's a future wife beater and head for the hills whenever I see a longer ring finger. lol
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Reply #12 posted 03/08/06 10:19am

AnckSuNamun

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brownsugar said:

man y'all suck! lol


I read it batting eyes
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Reply #13 posted 03/08/06 10:20am

brownsugar

AnckSuNamun said:

whoa....I'm gonna start looking at fingers to determine who's a future wife beater and head for the hills whenever I see a longer ring finger. lol


i also heard that women whose ring fingers are longer than their index finger have a tendency to be unfaithfull.
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Reply #14 posted 03/08/06 10:25am

AnckSuNamun

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brownsugar said:

AnckSuNamun said:

whoa....I'm gonna start looking at fingers to determine who's a future wife beater and head for the hills whenever I see a longer ring finger. lol


i also heard that women whose ring fingers are longer than their index finger have a tendency to be unfaithfull.


omg my ring finger is slightly longer than my index. that's crazy lol this really is interesting. I've noticed my finger lengths before, but didn't realize there were studies on them. whoa.
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Reply #15 posted 03/08/06 10:26am

brownsugar

AnckSuNamun said:

brownsugar said:



i also heard that women whose ring fingers are longer than their index finger have a tendency to be unfaithfull.


omg my ring finger is slightly longer than my index. that's crazy lol this really is interesting. I've noticed my finger lengths before, but didn't realize there were studies on them. whoa.


mine is almost the same length as my middle finger.
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Reply #16 posted 03/08/06 10:27am

AnckSuNamun

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Anx said:

boxed **chewing fingernails**


that's a horrible habit I'm trying to quit
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Reply #17 posted 03/08/06 10:27am

brownsugar

AnckSuNamun said:

Anx said:

boxed **chewing fingernails**


that's a horrible habit I'm trying to quit


ewww yall need to stop that!
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Reply #18 posted 03/08/06 10:30am

AnckSuNamun

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brownsugar said:

AnckSuNamun said:



omg my ring finger is slightly longer than my index. that's crazy lol this really is interesting. I've noticed my finger lengths before, but didn't realize there were studies on them. whoa.


mine is almost the same length as my middle finger.


my middle finger stands out from the rest of my fingers since it's so much longer than the rest. oh god, I feel deformed now lol
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Reply #19 posted 03/08/06 10:31am

AnckSuNamun

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brownsugar said:

AnckSuNamun said:



that's a horrible habit I'm trying to quit


ewww yall need to stop that!


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Reply #20 posted 03/08/06 11:47am

retina

My ring finger is quite a bit longer than my index finger. eek
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Reply #21 posted 03/08/06 11:49am

brownsugar

retina said:

My ring finger is quite a bit longer than my index finger. eek


but did you read the article lol
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Reply #22 posted 03/08/06 11:50am

retina

brownsugar said:

retina said:

My ring finger is quite a bit longer than my index finger. eek


but did you read the article lol


What article? hmm

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Reply #23 posted 03/08/06 3:32pm

charlottegelin

I saw a similar study on TV about finger length in relation to natural physical ability - they measured the finger lengths of top athletes. But I can't remember what the finding was redface
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Reply #24 posted 03/08/06 3:43pm

emm

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ring finger shorter than index finger here...
but now i will be checking out guys hands for sure!! omg
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Reply #25 posted 03/09/06 1:55am

GangstaFam

my ring and index fingers are exactly the same length.
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