i used to like oprah and hate martha. now i like martha and can't deal with oprah.

Anx said:

I will NEVER like Martha. She seems so robotic and anal. I seriously would hate to live with Martha.....scratch that....Martha can cook!

AnckSuNamun said:

yeah, but now she's all prison hard and she has some humility and humor now. she's like someone's cool aunt these days, where before she was creepy and icy.

littlemissG said:

Are you the one with the bags in the pic you posted.

Some race issue....I don't think she is really(a trader). It's from what I heard on the news and from other people. Don't know why.

I like Oprah. I watch her show nearly everyday. Even still, I think that for somebody with so much knowledge and life experience she can be incredibly naive and dismissive. She was shocked...SHOCKED...a couple of years ago when the Queer Eye guys were on her show and one of them talked about being in the closet. She genuinely was not aware that there were still people who were closeted about their sexuality (and it wasn't one of those moments where she's speaking for the audience). When she doesn't "get something," like sex addiction, she has a tendency to be dismissive and a bit rude even if that's not her intention.

Let me tell you something - ain't no way a bitch that was 200+ lbs from the south don't know what a hot link is!!! She probably used to make them shits every Sunday! And the way she said "hot link" was like it was a foreign language or something - BITCH PLEASE!!! You got hot links in ya freezer RIGHT NOW! QUIT FRONTIN' OPRAH!

illimack said:

She's also seen as a "man hater", usually by men who have never actually watched the show. I think those guys don't like her because she's someone who encourages other women not to put up with shit.

On the other hand, she can occasionally come off a bit grandiose and full of herself. But, ya know what? She's one of the very few people who deserves to.

i don't approve of the way she handled the james frey situation. i think she completely dismissed literary tradition in order to (in HER eyes) clear her name and drag frey through the mud. now, as a result, the trend is to scrutinize the hell out of any writer who does autobiographical work. i read that augustin burroughs' new book of short stories is being thoroughly inspected by a team of fact checkers to make sure he didn't fictionalize anything. the dude writes HUMOR that's BASED on his life. but ya know, oprah set a precedent, and now all those shady modern writers have to pay.

i think william burroughs' body should be exhumed and put in writer's jail because i don't think 'queer' and 'junky' were all 100% true.

heaven forbid imagination should be a part of literature, and heaven forbid writers should own their lives.

and i've heard the arguments, and some of them i understand. i just think oprah really jacked it up for authors right now. and that's why, as someone who considers himself a writer and had actually been thinking about writing autobiographical short stories, i say she can kiss my ass.

Anx said:

I will NEVER like Martha. She seems so robotic and anal. I seriously would hate to live with Martha.....scratch that....Martha can cook!

RipHer2Shreds said:

Let me tell you something - ain't no way a bitch that was 200+ lbs from the south don't know what a hot link is!!! She probably used to make them shits every Sunday! And the way she said "hot link" was like it was a foreign language or something - BITCH PLEASE!!! You got hot links in ya freezer RIGHT NOW! QUIT FRONTIN' OPRAH!

RipHer2Shreds said:

I think Oprah just fronts sometimes like she's unaware - I'm not sure WHY she does it, but I'd bet $ that she does it. Maybe it's just to really dumb down the point & make it kindergarden for everyone in America to be able to understand it, I dunno.

CalhounSq said:

I get what you mean, but I think she was serious this time. Later on in that same episode, she had the chance to use one of her favorite expressions - "Wait...I just had an epiphany (she's had more of them than the rest of the world combined). It makes sense to me now why people are still closeted!"

RipHer2Shreds said:

In her defense, could it be that she does not have closeted people in her life? Being in the entertainment industry, there is no hiding and perhaps her own personal experience to the issue blinded her a bit to the actual reality.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

That could very well be the case. The point I was making earlier is just that for somebody so knowledgeable and wordly, she can be incredibly naive. Some of that probably comes with being so famous, but I've always thought some of that comes from an unwillingness to step outside of her comfort zone or what she thinks is the status quo.

RipHer2Shreds said:

It's probably a combination of all factors. The hot-link thing tho, oh hell no. Stop lying Oprah!

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Yeah, that's a lie. Even the most backwoods northern Minnesotan knows what a damn hot link is.

...It drives me crazy that she cuts people off so much. She'll ask a question, they'll get three or four words into their answer, and she'll move on.

But, yeah, I like her.

I adore Oprah. I completely respect and appreciate all that she has accomplised for herself and others in this world. However, her whole tirade about the Hermès incident rubbed me the wrong way. Even though I'm also black and a female and have dealt with racism in my life. There was something about that Hermes fiasco that reeked of " I'm an omnimpresent media giant in America and I will make you PAY for not giving in to one of my whims" vs. "French people are racist against Blacks and I'm telling the world about this injustice" kinda thing. Beyond that...O is alright in my book...just what she has done in her campaigns for literacy ALONE is something to be admired....

Ottensen said:

i'm tired of 'celebrities' buying into the whole notion that they are somehow more important than other, non-famous, people.

I must have missed the part where she was crying in the media over it...

XxAxX said:

WOW, didn't she keep mum about this until she had the dude on the show? I mean, did she actually say anything about it other than when she had dude on her show?

I'm just trying to figure why she's so "wrong" for clearing up the media hype Sure it was staged, but it undid any tarnish for Hermes & made everyone look good.

I must have missed the part where she was crying in the media over it...

CalhounSq said:

http://www.azstarnet.com/.../81960.php

The incident occurred when Winfrey stopped by Hermes on June 14 to buy a watch minutes after the boutique closed. Though she and three friends said they saw shoppers inside, neither a sales clerk nor manager would let them in.
Winfrey believes the store's staff had identified her, according to a spokeswoman from Harpo Production Inc., her company. Winfrey's friend, Gayle King, who was there, told Entertainment Tonight, "Oprah describes it as 'one of the most humiliating moments of her life.' " Harpo says Winfrey plans to discuss the incident in the context of race relations on her show this fall.
Hermes said in a statement it "regrets not having been able to welcome" Winfrey to the store, but that "a private public relations event was being prepared inside." The store did not respond to calls seeking comment.

XxAxX said:

I still don't see where Oprah made a big deal out of it. I see comments by Gayle... I don't see Oprah sayin' shit

CalhounSq said:

umm.. do a search and you'll find plenty. oprah did inDEED make a big deal out of this 'incident'

Oprah Winfrey should spend a little mo' time with her head out of her own ass!
after all,she is human and we all need air...
the manner in which she turned on James Frey was disgusting and callous,a contrived attack on national television.nice going bigshot!
I was sickened to see her berate this guy in front of all of her sheep.I hope she felt better about herself after doing so.
also,how does a woman who refuses to be married nor has any children of her own become such an authority on parental and homemaking skills?
Oprah has alot of dim-witted,insecure people fooled me thinks.
just last week Bruce Willis went on a very humorous Oprah rant.he was also put off by her bullying tactics on James Frey.Bruce Willis proposed the question "why did she tear this Frey guy a new ass on her show but gives all of her showbiz buddies free passes when they come on?"
why did Oprah throw Bill Clinton so many softballs when she interviewed him?
why didn't Mr. Clinton get blasted for his "un-moral" conduct?
I guess it is easier to pick fights with people who are of lesser value huh?
Oprah is a dog.

woof woof.