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Black and White Twins

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Black and white twins
By LUCY LAING, Daily Mail

08:57am 21st February 2006


When Kylie Hodgson gave birth to twin daughters by caesarean section, she was just relieved that they had arrived safely.
It was only when the midwife handed them over for her to hold that she noticed the difference between them.

Remee, who weighed 5lb 15oz, was blonde and fair skinned. Her sister Kian, born a minute later weighing 6lb, was black.

'Our two gorgeous little girls'

"It was a shock when I realised that my twins were two different colours," said Kylie, 19. "But it doesn't matter to us - they are just our two gorgeous little girls."

The amazing conception happened after two eggs were fertilised at the same time in the womb.

Both Kylie and her partner Remi Horder, 17, are of mixed race. Their mothers are both white and their fathers are black.

According to the Multiple Births Foundation, baby Kian must have inherited the black genes from both sides of the family, whilst Remee inherited the white ones.

Kylie, from Nottingham, discovered she was pregnant in the summer of 2004 and a scan at the Queen's Medical Centre revealed that twins were on the way.

"It was a shock at first to discover I was expecting as we hadn't been trying for a family," she said I had my 14-week scan and the sonographer ran the scanner over my stomach and announced that I was carrying twins.

"We couldn't believe it. Neither of us could take our eyes off the scanner - you could just see two of everything, even the outline of their little noses. We were both overwhelmed."

The twins were born by caesarean in April last year because one of the girls was lying in an awkward position in the womb.

"I didn't see them at first," added their mother. "They were both whisked away to be checked over and then the midwife came back and placed them both in my arms.

"I noticed that both of them had beautiful blue eyes, but whilst Remee was blonde, Kian's hair was black and she had darker skin.

"It seemed strange, but I was feeling so ill that I didn't really take it in at that stage."

The next day she mentioned the colour difference to her mother, who told her that Remee's skin would darken as she grew older.

But as the weeks passed, Remee became lighter still while Kian went darker. And while Remee's eyes stayed blue, Kian's turned brown.

"There are some similarities between them," said their mother. "They both love apples and grapes, and their favourite television programme is Teletubbies.

"If they haven't seen each other for a few hours, they are so pleased to see each other and will hold out their arms, wanting to hug each other. And their smiles just light up their faces.

"I'll explain it all to them when they get older about why they look so different."

Million to one odds

The odds against of a mixed race couple having twins of dramatically different colour are a million to one.

Skin colour is believed to be determined by up to seven different genes working together.

If a woman is of mixed race, her eggs will usually contain a mixture of genes coding for both black and white skin.

Similarly, a man of mixed race will have a variety of different genes in his sperm. When these eggs and sperm come together, they will create a baby of mixed race.

But, very occasionally, the egg or sperm might contain genes coding for one skin colour. If both the egg and sperm contain all white genes, the baby will be white. And if both contain just the versions necessary for black skin, the baby will be black.

For a mixed-race couple, the odds of either of these scenarios is around 100 to one. But both scenarios can occur at the same time if the woman conceives non-identical twins, another 100 to one chance.

This involves two eggs being fertilised by two sperm at the same time, which also has odds of around 100 to one.

If a sperm containing all-white genes fuses with a similar egg and a sperm coding for purely black skin fuses with a similar egg, two babies of dramatically different colours will be born.


The odds of this happening are 100 x 100 x 100 - a million to one.
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Reply #1 posted 02/26/06 4:32am

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that genetically, Black people hold the genetically dominant gene. I'm going off of the theory that all races come from Africa, the first or parent race being Black people. ANd no matter how that article tries to explain this rare occurence in the last paragraph, if either of those parents was pure white, this would have been impossible, not a 1-in-a-million, but IMPOSSIBLE.

So to me, that still makes the Black Man God. Well, really the Black Woman, but who's picking sides



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Reply #2 posted 02/26/06 4:51am

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The dad is kinda hot.
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Reply #3 posted 02/26/06 5:07am

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the "pure black" one looks mixed just like the parents. the white baby looks albino. Maybe they just had a regular baby and an albino baby. Not all albino people have red eyes, some have blue. shrug that seems more likely than this pure black, pure white bullshit this article is trying to push.
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Reply #4 posted 02/26/06 5:49am

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wow. that's strange.

paging blackbuddy...paging blackbuddy..... smile
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Reply #5 posted 02/26/06 6:28am

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Genetics are a funny thing...

However...there is another way that those twins could have come out
so differently.

If she slept with another sperm donor that had gotten her pregnant
at the same time as her man got her pregnant, then she not only
could have twins that look differently, but also have different fathers.

Slut.

lol
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Reply #6 posted 02/26/06 6:31am

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Revolution said:

Genetics are a funny thing...

However...there is another way that those twins could have come out
so differently.

If she slept with another sperm donor that had gotten her pregnant
at the same time as her man got her pregnant, then she not only
could have twins that look differently, but also have different fathers.

Slut.

lol



Don't know much about pregnancy, but that I don't believe. Nono.
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Reply #7 posted 02/26/06 6:37am

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calldapplwondery83 said:

Revolution said:

Genetics are a funny thing...

However...there is another way that those twins could have come out
so differently.

If she slept with another sperm donor that had gotten her pregnant
at the same time as her man got her pregnant, then she not only
could have twins that look differently, but also have different fathers.

Slut.

lol



Don't know much about pregnancy, but that I don't believe. Nono.


'Tis true, my non-pregnant friend...I concede it probably happens VERY
infrequently, but a lady with two eggs, one getting fertilized by ME and
the other getting fertilized by YOU (ASS..U..MEing you're a dude) on the
next day, would have fraternal twins with different fathers...

Slut.

razz
[Edited 2/26/06 6:37am]
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Reply #8 posted 02/26/06 6:57am

JasmineFire

Revolution said:

calldapplwondery83 said:




Don't know much about pregnancy, but that I don't believe. Nono.


'Tis true, my non-pregnant friend...I concede it probably happens VERY
infrequently, but a lady with two eggs, one getting fertilized by ME and
the other getting fertilized by YOU (ASS..U..MEing you're a dude) on the
next day, would have fraternal twins with different fathers...

Slut.

razz
[Edited 2/26/06 6:37am]

That is also possible and very common. In greek mythology, Heracules had a twin but the twin's father was a mere mortal and Heracules father was Zeus. I guess his mother was a double ovulator. Anyway, twins with different fathers have been known about for quite sometime.

But those kids too look alike in the face for me to believe they have different dads. I seriously think the white one is albino. I knew a black albino girl growing up so maybe that's why i'm so hung up on it. lol I demand a paternity test!!
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Reply #9 posted 02/26/06 8:11am

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forget the twins..whats a 19 year old doing have a 17 year olds baby?
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Reply #10 posted 02/26/06 8:13am

AsianBomb777

sosgemini said:

forget the twins..whats a 19 year old doing have a 17 year olds baby?


I think the 19 year old must have had intercourse with the 17 year old at one time and gotten pregnant. shrug
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Reply #11 posted 02/26/06 8:16am

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sosgemini said:

forget the twins..whats a 19 year old doing have a 17 year olds baby?

it's england. age of consent there is 16 i think
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Reply #12 posted 02/26/06 8:23am

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AsianBomb777 said:

sosgemini said:

forget the twins..whats a 19 year old doing have a 17 year olds baby?


I think the 19 year old must have had intercourse with the 17 year old at one time and gotten pregnant. shrug



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Reply #13 posted 02/26/06 8:24am

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sosgemini said:

AsianBomb777 said:



I think the 19 year old must have had intercourse with the 17 year old at one time and gotten pregnant. shrug



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Reply #14 posted 02/26/06 8:24am

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i miss my hair edit..
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Reply #15 posted 02/26/06 8:25am

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cborgman said:

sosgemini said:

forget the twins..whats a 19 year old doing have a 17 year olds baby?

it's england. age of consent there is 16 i think





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Reply #16 posted 02/26/06 8:54am

Teacher

JasmineFire said:

the "pure black" one looks mixed just like the parents. the white baby looks albino. Maybe they just had a regular baby and an albino baby. Not all albino people have red eyes, some have blue. shrug that seems more likely than this pure black, pure white bullshit this article is trying to push.


The blue eyed girl is not albino. Her hair is too dark to be and she has pigment in her skin. smile
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Reply #17 posted 02/26/06 10:33am

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Revolution said:

Genetics are a funny thing...

However...there is another way that those twins could have come out
so differently.

If she slept with another sperm donor that had gotten her pregnant
at the same time as her man got her pregnant, then she not only
could have twins that look differently, but also have different fathers.

Slut.

lol


falloff lol
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Reply #18 posted 02/26/06 10:44am

SammiJ

it's happened many times before
(didnt read the whole article)

wasn't there a book about it? only the twins didnt grow up 2gether, they were both adopted and found each other in college?
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Reply #19 posted 02/26/06 11:49am

brownsugar


Remee, who weighed 5lb 15oz, was blonde and fair skinned.Her sister Kian, born a minute later weighing 6lb, was black.

falloff interesting, anyway i've heard of this happening before when i was little in the 70s. it was in "jet magazine", cant remember what issue though.



misspell edit.
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Reply #20 posted 02/26/06 1:56pm

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brownsugar said:


Remee, who weighed 5lb 15oz, was blonde and fair skinned.Her sister Kian, born a minute later weighing 6lb, was black.

falloff interesting, anyway i've heard of this happening before when i was little in the 70s. it was in "jet magazine", cant remember what issue though.



misspell edit.
[Edited 2/26/06 11:51am]

I REMEMBER THAT ARTICLE ALSO!
I'M NOT SHOUTING, JEEZ!
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Reply #21 posted 02/26/06 4:54pm

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Action movie star Vin Diesel has a fraternal twin brother named Peter (I think...or was it Paul?) and he's blond-haired and blue-eyed. Vin mentions him in an article in the Parade magazine which is an insert in the Sunday Boston Globe, and other national papers, I'm sure. Vin is on the cover of this week's issue.
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Reply #22 posted 02/26/06 5:13pm

JasmineFire

Teacher said:

JasmineFire said:

the "pure black" one looks mixed just like the parents. the white baby looks albino. Maybe they just had a regular baby and an albino baby. Not all albino people have red eyes, some have blue. shrug that seems more likely than this pure black, pure white bullshit this article is trying to push.


The blue eyed girl is not albino. Her hair is too dark to be and she has pigment in her skin. smile

I knew an albino girl who had blue eyes and looked very much like that girl in the photo. Her parents looked similar to the twins' parents. I still think that girl is albino, especially if her light skinned sister is being called pure black.
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Reply #23 posted 02/26/06 6:09pm

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That's a very pretty family. Both the girls are adorable. At least they won't have to go through all the look alike crap that identical twins go through.
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Reply #24 posted 02/26/06 6:47pm

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Beautiful baby girls, and surely that should be the focus of our posts.
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Reply #25 posted 02/26/06 7:00pm

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I've seen a special on Dateline that there are twins from the Netherlands and one is black and one is white. The mom had invitro, I think, and the doctors messed up and so while the twins have the same mom, the one has a different (black) father. The parents didn't realize it at first, they just thought one had brown hair and a little darker skin. The really unfortunate part (IMO) is their names: Koen (the black one) and Tuen (the white one)...but the names sound like 'coon' and 'tune'. eek I'm sure it was unintentional but watching it made me feel really bad.

Here is a link I found:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9438648/
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Reply #26 posted 02/26/06 10:53pm

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Awwwww beautiful twins mushy
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Reply #27 posted 02/27/06 10:01am

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SammiJ said:

it's happened many times before
(didnt read the whole article)

wasn't there a book about it? only the twins didnt grow up 2gether, they were both adopted and found each other in college?


It happened to Vin Diesel and his brother...I'm not sure what Vin Diesel's parents look like, but his brother has blonde hair, green eyes and pale skin coloring unlike Vin Diesel.. oops, sorry, didn't see the post that already stated this.
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Reply #28 posted 02/27/06 10:29am

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WOW, genetics are an amazing thing...and what a gorgeous family! touched
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Reply #29 posted 02/27/06 10:41am

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