nakedpianoplayer said:

I was until I started thinking. Thinking ALWAYS gets me in trouble I can't help it. I over ANALyze things.

Besides. I bet if I played Madea in a play my mom wouldn't come see it.

DynamicSavior said:

i bet youre wrong

nakedpianoplayer said:

you know what? You're right. This is the same woman that dressed me up as a female prostitute on Halloween back in '91. Then when I came out the closet, she was quick to ask me who's fault it was. I should've said it was her fault. And that it was payback for her marrying a man I don't like

DynamicSavior said:

but, i thought being gay wasnt a choice its noones "fault" you are who you are..... right ?

DynamicSavior said:

This is a reasonable reason for you NOT to support the movie. However is your beef with the church folks who turn a Donnie Mc Clurklin(sp) blind eye to tyler/gay/man in drag thang OR with Tyler Perry himself???. I ask 'cause I really don't know if he's in the closet, doing a don't ask don't tell thing or what??

I won't be seeing this one. I finally got around to seeing the first one, and it was TERRIBLE. It had the potential to be good, but that potential was wasted on bad slapstick that distracted from what could have been a great story.

paisleypark4 said:

Woman Thou Art Loosed came out around the same time as the first Tyler Perry movie and was infintely better, deep and moving. Did you see that one? It didn't get much press, but Kimberly Elise is great in it. Roll Bounce was cute and a lot funnier than ...Mad Black Woman.

nakedpianoplayer said:

Yeah. It's not anyone's fault. Whenever I say things like that I am joking. It's no ones fault or choice. Goodness, I don't know what's going on with this place lately. I've never had to defend myself SO much on here before. P&R has me going apeshit.

nammie said:

The church folk. Madea is a drag queen. Plain and simple. But I guess as long as you quote scriptures and sing hymnals whilst in drag then it's okay. What a double standard.

RipHer2Shreds said:

Woman Art Thou Loosed was a good movie, and very well done. It made me cry too . But ROLL BOUNCE? it was an ok movie but it didnt leave me with anything to think about like Madea's Family Reunion. Madea is a real family movie with lots of morals about becoming a better person, forgiving others, loving yourself, forgetting the past, and if all else fails beat the hell outta somebody.

paisleypark4 said:

I saw it Saturday and I totally agree wtih you PP4. The message is the key to this film. Plus it was funny as all hell. I teared up a couple of times. A good film.

DynamicSavior said:

I understand your reasons for making it personal... however if Tyler is the best actor to play Madea b/c he created her & has played her onstage for years, he should most definitely play her in the movie (I'm sure you agree) And as far as church folk being accepting of him in drag but not gay people in general, you're making a hell of a point so why not (further) use the movie as a platform for that discussion? Instead of just boycotting the movie altogether... who knows, if Tyler really is gay maybe he has a plan or will come around & make the same point you're making - that would really be powerful & hard for folks to ignore IMO

Honestly I can't really talk b/c I refused to see the first Madea movie just based on it looking like a bad movie, but everyone has their reasons - I generally shun Woody Allen movies b/c I think he's disgusting yet talented, I can't shake the disgusting part enough to participate in his shit...

CalhounSq said:

Because "any publicity is good publicity." I could stand outside all day in the hot sun telling people why I won't go see it, that wouldn't stop them, and it'd make others a hell of a lot more curious to see what my fuss is about. Most of the time people think my POV is bullshit. But If I didn't mean it, then I wouldn't say it. And I'm tired of waiting for gay celebrities and other people in power to "step up" and say "this is who I am, love me or leave me" and do something to bring us up. It'll never happen. So Tyler Perry and Donnie McCluckin can both kiss my ass. My, I am a bit bitchy today.

DynamicSavior said:

Today?

RipHer2Shreds said:

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Black people are just plain stuck.

There's no reason to see this movie.

It's just the same ole shit.

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AlienX2050 said:

man, you will pull at any strings available to get a rise outta folks, wontcha ?

RipHer2Shreds said:

well, I'm better today than I was yesterday. I go in and out of my bitchy moods. I hate that. Cuz I'm not a bitchy person. It's more irritability and frustrabation.

nakedpianoplayer said:

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Nope. Did I get a rise out of you? Why does that turn me on in a sexual way.?

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AlienX2050 said:

cuz, you know where the good stuff is



im just playin.... you are just silly man, if i didnt know you, i would have attacked a statement like that

nakedpianoplayer said:

Say what you want to say...sweetie. I'll still love ya.

Black people are stuck.

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AlienX2050 said:

and i love you to

isthisdadawn said:

If the movie was so good, he wouldn't have felt left out. I go see films with all types of people and the really good ones draw me in regardless of the ethnicity of the characters.

sextonseven said:

I can't draw that conclusion based on what he said in the article. It is clear that he feels excluded.. because he can't relate. But who say's that he should have to relate on a race level. He could have related on so many other levels.. he chose to use the one thing that divides people. It was a feel good movie..and a wake up call to the majority. Maybe if he wasnt the center of the universe in every movie, television show etc. he could comprehend what it is 2 walk a mile in some one elses shoes.

isthisdadawn said:

Yup, I dont know if alot of other cultures and races understand that we are in a stage of time where our music is on top of the charts but our people are all fucked up...we need a wake up call. And this movie is a smack upside the head

i saw it and:

1. thought it was indeed "average".
2. thought the messages, while well-intentioned, were about as subtle as a bull in a china shop
3. thought it "borrowed" from a few better made films ("what's love got to do with it" comes to mind)

with that being said, i'm glad that Hollywood sees that there is a positive market for Black folks out there. now if these same Black folks can turn out to support films by Spike Lee, Antoine Fuqua, F. Gary Gray, and some other minority directors, then that is even better. the fact that the last two of the last four #1 films in America involve Black men dressing up as older Black women is more distressing than anything.

meltwithu said:

That you, Dave Chappelle?

meltwithu said:

And the fact more black people disgust at a self made director, producer, writer of positive messages while palying himself, a grandmother, and an uncle is a shame too.

What was the difference when Martin played Big Momma? Or Eddie Murphy as The Klumps? Or even Robin Williams as Mrs. Doubtfire?

isthisdadawn said:

I'm SAYIN'!!! That's like me bitching about a movie or tv show where the characters are rich & White - I'm the exact opposite, but does that mean I can't enjoy it? Relate to it on SOME level (maybe the relationships involved, the desires of the characters, etc)??? I used to love the shit outta 90210 Come on, this dude didn't even try - it's one thing to call a movie out for being bad, it's another to diss it b/c you don't see yourself in it & you choose to shut down.




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paisleypark4 said:

yo i ain't hating on the brotha--i just said it was an average film with a lot of recycled themes that have been done better in better films. it was an OK film--not some landmark cinematic achievement. not to mention the conflicting messages it sent out (showing penny get abused on good times on tv while madea beats the foster child; getting back at an abusive husband by throwing hot grits in his face and beating him with a iron skillet--how Christian!)
Usher Dem Franchize Boys or Beyonce could have albums debut at #1--that doesn't mean that it's a great album--just means that a whole lot of people went out and bought it. Hopefully, for his next movie, Tyler Perry can learn to smooth out the transitional scenes between heavy handed sermonizing and slapstick comedy--the play was much better at doing this.
JMHO.