And if someone cares about another person they do not ask them to do something they do not want to do. They let them do what they want to do. I am not gonna stop them from making a mistake like getting married and they should not ask me to participate. Goes both ways.

There has been no divorce in my family. I just think the whole "institution" (that's an appropriate word for it)) of marriage is dumb and pointless. Especially in 2006. Why is marriage needed and wanted? There is nothing you can accomplish or have married that you cannot have unmarried. I guess it's for insecure women who have dreamt about that day since they were little girls playing with their dollies. dreaming of meeting the perfect man who will sweep them off their feet, propose to them, get married and live happily ever after. It's pathetic.




Did you see the women on CNN who were stampeding in a store because it Had a great deal on wedding dresses? Show some self respect women. Pathetic.

And the whole ceremony is embarrassing. Marching down the aisle looking silly in a flowing white dress (i have seen some bad pictures here of these outfits)and with flowers in their hair and all that crap and then all of those BS vows. What freaking dreamworld are these people living in?

Why didn't you propose to him?

Spats said:

Well when he proposed that was not a typical proposal either.. It was kind of a mutual proposal. He did not get on his hands & knees or have a ring. We were lying in bed having a serious conversation and he just asked me- wasn't planned, it just came out. We went that night and picked out our rings and decided where we wanted to go to get married. I did lots of research on the computer and we made a decisions and that was that...
We had the best day of our lives Sept 21, 2001

Spats said:

Well when he proposed that was not a typical proposal either.. It was kind of a mutual proposal. He did not get on his hands & knees or have a ring. We were lying in bed having a serious conversation and he just asked me- wasn't planned, it just came out. We went that night and picked out our rings and decided where we wanted to go to get married. I did lots of research on the computer and we made a decisions and that was that...
We had the best day of our lives Sept 21, 2001

shanti0608 said:

(Spats, please take notes!)

I don't believe it. And even if it is true. 98% of the time it does not happen that way. Women sit back and wait, hope and pray that the man asks.

There has been no divorce in my family. I just think the whole "institution" (that's an appropriate word for it)) of marriage is dumb and pointless. Especially in 2006. Why is marriage needed and wanted? There is nothing you can accomplish or have married that you cannot have unmarried.

Commitment????? HA!. Most marriages end in divorce. The divorce rate is higher than it's ever been and there are countless people cheating in their marriages as we speak. You don't have a leg to stand on with that argument. There is just as much commitment today just living together as there is being married.

Spats said:

why are you so adamant about this

bluesbaby said:

And people say that geeks are the ones that will die alone.

And there is nothing sad or tragic about not being committed to another person. Why do you associate that with being the end all and be all. I would rather be free to do anything i want , go anywhere i want with out asking permission or consulting with someone else. Commitment to another person limits what you can do in life.

And there is nothing sad or tragic about not being committed to another person. Why do you associate that with being the end all and be all. I would rather be free to do anything i want , go anywhere i want with out asking permission or consulting with someone else. Commitment to another person limits what you can do in life.

I don't believe it. And even if it is true. 98% of the time it does not happen that way. Women sit back and wait, hope and pray that the man asks.

Spats said:

I didn't see anyone write anything about it being sad or tragic to not be committed to another person.

But he still asked you. I never hear examples of the other way around.

And there is nothing sad or tragic about not being committed to another person. Why do you associate that with being the end all and be all. I would rather be free to do anything i want , go anywhere i want with out asking permission or consulting with someone else. Commitment to another person limits what you can do in life.