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Thread started 02/17/06 12:04pm

CaptainChaos

Men are liars when it comes to sex

According to this article in Yahoo News, the majority of men lie about the amount of sex they have had. Best guess is that the psychologist who reports the study isn't getting any.


Most surveys about sex find impossibly that men have had far more partners than women, typically two to four times as many.

Either there are a bunch of phantom females out there, or somebody is lying.

Or perhaps men just have lousy memories.

Psychologist Norman R. Brown at the University of Michigan has done several studies on the apparent flaw in these surveys. The latest was a web-based survey of 2,065 heterosexual non-virgins with a median age in their late 40s.

The women reported on average 8.6 lifetime sexual partners. The men claimed 31.9.

Rather than let it go at that, Brown and his colleagues later in the survey asked the participants to rate the truthfulness of their response. About 5 percent said they lied. In addition, more than 10 percent said they knew their answer wasn't accurate.

"They gave an answer and then two minutes later admitted they had lied about the answer," Brown said.

But there's more to the discrepancy. Men and women use different methods to calculate their past dalliances.

Women rely on a raw count, a method Brown says is known to result in underestimation.

"They tend to say, 'I just know,' and if you ask them to explain how they know, they say, 'Well, there was John, Tom, etc.'"

Men also rely on a flawed strategy.

"Men are twice as likely to use rough approximation to answer the question," Brown said. "And rough approximation is a strategy known to produce over-estimation."

Then again, maybe Brown's study is flawed, too.

His next survey will be done by telephone, to find out if people lie and fudge as much in that medium, or if the Web-based surveys invite such behavior. The self-proclaimed liars "could be liars who lie about lying," he said.
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Reply #1 posted 02/17/06 12:08pm

retina

CaptainChaos said:


Either there are a bunch of phantom females out there
Or perhaps men just have lousy memories.


Or they're gayer than they'd like to admit. smile
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Reply #2 posted 02/17/06 12:10pm

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retina said:

CaptainChaos said:


Either there are a bunch of phantom females out there
Or perhaps men just have lousy memories.


Or they're gayer than they'd like to admit. smile


smile
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Reply #3 posted 02/17/06 12:13pm

Spookymuffin

I'm a virgin. No lies from me. woot!
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Reply #4 posted 02/17/06 12:19pm

CarrieMpls

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Maybe the women are the liars. hmmm
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Reply #5 posted 02/17/06 12:20pm

retina

CarrieMpls said:

Maybe the women are the liars. hmmm


I think it's both actually. Women underestimate the numbers for the same cultural reasons that men overestimate them.
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Reply #6 posted 02/17/06 12:21pm

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retina said:

CarrieMpls said:

Maybe the women are the liars. hmmm


I think it's both actually. Women underestimate the numbers for the same cultural reasons that men overestimate them.


That's what I was thinking also.
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Reply #7 posted 02/17/06 12:21pm

Byron

Maybe more women have past lovers they'd rather forget... lol
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Reply #8 posted 02/17/06 12:23pm

Byron

Or...maybe women have a different standard for what actually qualifies as sex...

Yanno...if she doesn't, um, "finish"...it's not sex...and if HE "finishes" in a minute and a half, it sure as hell ain't sex...lol
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Reply #9 posted 02/17/06 12:24pm

1sexymf

I posted a thread about this once.
Most men seem to want to hear their women are damn near virgins.
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Reply #10 posted 02/17/06 12:25pm

Byron

1sexymf said:

I posted a thread about this once.
Most men seem to want to hear their women are damn near virgins.

I just want to hear my correct name during the act... confused
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Reply #11 posted 02/17/06 12:32pm

Anx

i'm having sex right now! honest!
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Reply #12 posted 02/17/06 12:33pm

1sexymf

Byron said:

1sexymf said:

I posted a thread about this once.
Most men seem to want to hear their women are damn near virgins.

I just want to hear my correct name during the act... confused



lol
what, someone called you Bryon before? lol
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Reply #13 posted 02/17/06 12:36pm

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1sexymf said:

I posted a thread about this once.
Most men seem to want to hear their women are damn near virgins.

I'd like to think the double standard is going away but I don't think it is.
Thats said, I'm not sure there should be a standard. As long as all are tested and safe and such, it shouldn't be a big deal. But I know sometimes it just IS. I don't know...
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Reply #14 posted 02/17/06 12:39pm

Byron

1sexymf said:

Byron said:


I just want to hear my correct name during the act... confused



lol
what, someone called you Bryon before? lol

More like "You, there"... lol
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Reply #15 posted 02/17/06 12:41pm

1sexymf

Byron said:

1sexymf said:




lol
what, someone called you Bryon before? lol

More like "You, there"... lol



Hey you! Left, right,right left, up down, down, up, round and around - you don't like traffic cops? biggrin
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Reply #16 posted 02/17/06 12:43pm

Byron

1sexymf said:

Byron said:


More like "You, there"... lol



Hey you! Left, right,right left, up down, down, up, round and around - you don't like traffic cops? biggrin

The whistle and the citations can be a bit intimidating...lol
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Reply #17 posted 02/17/06 12:44pm

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Byron said:

1sexymf said:




Hey you! Left, right,right left, up down, down, up, round and around - you don't like traffic cops? biggrin

The whistle and the citations can be a bit intimidating...lol


Was she at least wearing those tidy white gloves?

smile
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Reply #18 posted 02/17/06 12:44pm

1sexymf

Byron said:

1sexymf said:




Hey you! Left, right,right left, up down, down, up, round and around - you don't like traffic cops? biggrin

The whistle and the citations can be a bit intimidating...lol


So you like the handcuffs and leather?
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Reply #19 posted 02/17/06 12:48pm

Byron

CarrieMpls said:

Byron said:


The whistle and the citations can be a bit intimidating...lol


Was she at least wearing those tidy white gloves?

smile

AND the cap... nod
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Reply #20 posted 02/17/06 12:49pm

1sexymf

Searches, and digs for cop costume.
Where did I put that?
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Reply #21 posted 02/17/06 12:50pm

Byron

1sexymf said:

Byron said:


The whistle and the citations can be a bit intimidating...lol


So you like the handcuffs and leather?



batting eyes
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Reply #22 posted 02/17/06 12:53pm

1sexymf

Byron said:

1sexymf said:



So you like the handcuffs and leather?



batting eyes


You forgot the leg cuffs lol
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Reply #23 posted 02/17/06 12:56pm

Byron

1sexymf said:

Byron said:




batting eyes


You forgot the leg cuffs lol

You only mentioned handcuffs and leather...lol mr.green
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Reply #24 posted 02/17/06 12:58pm

Byron

Anx said:

i'm having sex right now! honest!

No you're not...there aren't any typos... hmph!
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Reply #25 posted 02/17/06 12:59pm

Anx

Byron said:

Anx said:

i'm having sex right now! honest!

No you're not...there aren't any typos... hmph!


i use spellcheck...i believe in safe text
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Reply #26 posted 02/17/06 1:00pm

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Anx said:

Byron said:


No you're not...there aren't any typos... hmph!


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Reply #27 posted 02/17/06 1:01pm

Byron

Anx said:

Byron said:


No you're not...there aren't any typos... hmph!


i use spellcheck...i believe in safe text

lol
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